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Dartgod 11-04-2011 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8078526)
Sounds like you could have used less therapy and more beatings.

No shit. I received plenty of beatings as a child and my father's "weapon" of choice was his belt. Usually 2-4 swats and not once did I receive one that I did not deserve.

I grew up to be respectful and responsible and not once did I ever need therapy because of the punishment I received.

The Franchise 11-04-2011 02:56 PM

He's receiving no punishment.

Statute of limitations is 5 years. Apparently this was 7 years ago.

vailpass 11-04-2011 02:58 PM

I don't trust the daughter. There is something shaky about her. She seems like a jerk.

JD10367 11-04-2011 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8077689)
Uh - he's trying to claw his way out from under a huge bus... There's not a single one of us that is perfect. Everybody here has done something they're glad isn't plastered all over the internet.

I'm not a fan of the guy. I'm not excusing his actions. But if we're going to castigate him then we need to throw the book at his daughter as well. She's disabled but somehow managed to video, plot, blackmail, and release a viral vid to the internet... She's not dummy-disabled. She should do just as much time as daddy does.

WTF?

What's her crime? Having cerebral palsy and getting her ass kicked by a full-grown man?

There is absolutely no way this is defensible in any way shape or form. And certainly not over downloading something from the Internet. The guy is batshit crazy, physically abusive, and should never have been allowed to reproduce.

16 year old w/CP vs. full-grown man with a belt, and she's getting some of the blame. ****ing astounding.

I'm sure there's plenty of things a lot of people here aren't proud of doing. I highly doubt "beating a 16-year-old girl" is on the list.

FAX 11-04-2011 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 8078762)
...

I'm sure there's plenty of things a lot of people here aren't proud of doing. I highly doubt "beating a 16-year-old girl" is on the list.

uh oh.

Actually, I was kinda proud of it.

FAX

vailpass 11-04-2011 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 8078762)
WTF?

What's her crime? Having cerebral palsy and getting her ass kicked by a full-grown man?

There is absolutely no way this is defensible in any way shape or form. And certainly not over downloading something from the Internet. The guy is batshit crazy, physically abusive, and should never have been allowed to reproduce.

16 year old w/CP vs. full-grown man with a belt, and she's getting some of the blame. ****ing astounding.

I'm sure there's plenty of things a lot of people here aren't proud of doing. I highly doubt "beating a 16-year-old girl" is on the list.

Kind of a sanctimonious ****er aren't you?

Demonpenz 11-04-2011 03:43 PM

She should live with the Dolphins, they don't beat anyone.

burt 11-04-2011 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI (Post 8078502)
That is why I said I THINK (indicating opinion) if you are using a belt to beat your child you are a child abuser

A belt is a weapon. If you are hitting your kid more than once means you are beating them. Hence you are beating your child. Just my view after many years of therapy and being raised by parents who did this.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/beating

beat
   /bit/ Show Spelled [beet] Show IPA verb, beat, beat·en or beat, beat·ing, noun, adjective
verb (used with object)
[B]1.
to strike violently or forcefully and repeatedly.[/B]


The perverbial "they" are correct. You are an idiot. By definition, YOUR DEFINITION, any adult that physically disciplines a child is beating them. You are now christined, "Captail Literal" and possibly the first person I put on ignore...... or in your case ingorant.

ToxSocks 11-04-2011 05:00 PM

My dad was a lowlife, but he never really kicked my ass. Except once....bastard....kicked me on the ground a couple of times when i was 8-10 years.

heh. One time I came home from school...I guess he was tweaking or something. I open the door and he had blankets hanging over all the windows. I walk down the hall to my room and my dad comes around the corner doing some ****ing flying ninja kick shit. He damn near kicked my face in. Barely missed me. He said he thought I was breaking in and that I was lucky to be alive.

lol. Good times.

memyselfI 11-04-2011 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by burt (Post 8078932)
The perverbial "they" are correct. You are an idiot. By definition, YOUR DEFINITION, any adult that physically disciplines a child is beating them. You are now christined, "Captail Literal" and possibly the first person I put on ignore...... or in your case ingorant.

Any person who spanks, slaps, or whips their child more than one time at a time is beating their child. Yes. Any person using an object (belt, whip, spoon, etc) to inflict pain as punishment is using a weapon and is abusing their child. Yes. If you do both then you are a child abuser in my opinion. Ignore me if you want. Just make sure the law enforcement in your area doesn't share my view if you decide to continue to 'punish' your child in such a fashion.

NewChief 11-04-2011 05:06 PM

The sad part is that children with disabilities are far likelier to be abused:

http://www.domesticviolenceservices....-children.html
There have been four studies with large samples that have addressed the question of whether children with disabilities were at higher risk for child maltreatment. Even though these studies varied in methodology and sample, the results have been remarkably consistent: children with disabilities are at increased risk for abuse or neglect compared with their non-disabled peers.

Based on analysis of the second National Incidence Study of Child Abuse and Neglect (NIS-2), approximately 21.3 per 1,000 children without disabilities are maltreated each year, compared with 35.5 per 1,000 children with disabilities (Westat, 1993). The authors concluded that children with disabilities were 1.7 times more likely to be maltreated than children without disabilities. In examining these figures, Sullivan and Knutson (1998) estimate that these figures are probably low since Child Protective Workers were asked to make the diagnosis of disability, and they are generally not qualified to do so. Moreover, these findings do not include extra-familial abuse since information about abuse outside the family is in police records rather than in state child protective service records.

Embry (2001) conducted a retrospective study of 770 deaf adults who were also deaf as children. Forty-five percent of the sample reported some type of abuse, 19% reported caregiver physical abuse, 30% reported residential staff physical abuse, 18% reported sexual abuse, and 9% reported physical neglect. Interestingly, parent communication method did not predict any type of maltreatment. However, poor communication between parents and children increased the risk of neglect, and fair communication quality increased the risk for caregiver physical abuse.

Sullivan and Knutson (1998) merged hospital records for a local children’s hospital with the records of the Department of Social Services, the child abuse Central Registry, the Foster Care Review board, and municipal and county law enforcement

agencies. From this, they drew a sample of 3001 maltreated children, 792 were current or former residents of a hospital that specialized in treating maltreated children. These children were compared to 880 non-abused controls. They found that disabilities were twice as prevalent in the maltreated hospital group, which is consistent with the hypothesis that disability increases the risk of maltreatment, and maltreatment increases the risk of disability (the study design did not allow them to determine whether disability or maltreatment came first). In almost all cases, physical abuse and neglect was intrafamilial regardless of disability type. The majority of children with disabilities were maltreated under the age of five. Children with more than one disability were at higher risk of physical and sexual abuse, and the severity and duration of both types of abuse was greatest for those children with multiple disabilities.

ToxSocks 11-04-2011 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI (Post 8078979)
Any person who spanks, slaps, or whips their child more than one time at a time is beating their child. Yes. Any person using an object (belt, whip, spoon, etc) to inflict pain as punishment is using a weapon and is abusing their child. Yes. If you do both then you are a child abuser in my opinion. Ignore me if you want. Just make sure the law enforcement in your area doesn't share my view if you decide to continue to 'punish' your child in such a fashion.

I agree.

Submerging a kids head underwater and then pulling it out before he drowned is a much better way to get your point across. See? That way there are no marks so it's not really physically abusive.

FAX 11-04-2011 05:19 PM

This one time, my Uncle Merris strapped me to a chair and extracted four of my teeth with a pair of pliers.

FAX

Dartgod 11-04-2011 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI (Post 8078979)
Any person who spanks, slaps, or whips their child more than one time at a time is beating their child. Yes. Any person using an object (belt, whip, spoon, etc) to inflict pain as punishment is using a weapon and is abusing their child. Yes. If you do both then you are a child abuser in my opinion. Ignore me if you want. Just make sure the law enforcement in your area doesn't share my view if you decide to continue to 'punish' your child in such a fashion.

It's no wonder we are raising a nation of pussies with this type of attitude.

burt 11-04-2011 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI (Post 8078979)
Just make sure the law enforcement in your area doesn't share my view if you decide to continue to 'punish' your child in such a fashion.

Yo, your ass holiness....... your reading comprehension is really poor. You are a condescending dip shit, now that is ironic.



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Originally Posted by burt (Post 8077489)
He is now 16 and I don't lay a hand or belt on him. Not for fear(he is 145lbs, I am 285) but because it wouldn't do any good. The time for physical punishment is long gone. Same for my 13 year old daughter. I think spanking them would be a little wierd, no matter how subdued I did it.



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