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Hammock Parties 11-22-2011 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 8133722)
No way. 3 players need to be replaced on the OL and 2 on the DL. Nothing is being over - analyzed. Both lines need substantial improvement.
Only two players need to be replaced because of performance - Lilja and Richardson.

Wiegmann needs to be replaced due to age.

I would argue that if we replace Richardson and Wiegmann we could get away with Lilja at LG. You don't need a flawless line to win a SB.

I'd also argue that if Powe pans out at NT we'd have a very solid DL, but depth is needed.

stevieray 11-22-2011 07:35 PM
...how anyone can expect continuity with a revolving door at OC is fooling themselves...

...even more amazing is after losing JC, EB and TM, the majority on this board wanted to SFL, yet still expects/expected the team to win games.

...this season was shot weeks ago.

Hammock Parties 11-22-2011 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 8134031)
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...even more amazing is after losing JC, EB and TM, the majority on this board wanted to SFL, yet still expects/expected the team to win games.
They created that expectation by winning games.

stevieray 11-22-2011 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8134035)
They created that expectation by winning games.
no, they didn't...that's just football...every year, teams win games they "should've" lost, and lose games they "should've" won.

Hammock Parties 11-22-2011 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 8134039)
no, they didn't...that's just football.
Sorry, as soon as we beat San Diego, I expected the team to beat bad teams at Arrowhead. I thought they were a decent team.

Turns out they were just a bunch of frauds. Like last year.

stevieray 11-22-2011 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8134048)
I expected
:LOL:

it'll get you every time, dude.

Chiefnj2 11-22-2011 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8133734)
How many players show up to camp out of shape? How many good players have we re-signed on the cheap? I can only think of a handful of games where our team played without heart. There is a difference between being outmatched and beaten to submission and being outplayed.

I don't get why people obsess over game managers. If you want a guy to manage games then hire norv Turner. I'd rather a guy who coaches a good team. Haley does that. I want a 2 year extension and a concerted effort to get him a real qb. We spend endless threads btiching about the importance of a qb then we expect Haley to win with below average qbs. Doesn't make any sense.
The Chiefs have been blown out and scored 10 points or less in half their games this season. You think that's good coaching?

whoman69 11-22-2011 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8133639)
Hali and Bowe were not underachieving prior to Haley's arrival.
Short memory

Reerun_KC 11-22-2011 08:08 PM
I dont care who the coaches or players are anymore...

I just want to win a superbowl and could careless about who the HC is or the name on the back of the jersey...

Chiefnj2 11-22-2011 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8134133)
Short memory
Hali led the team in sacks his rookie year.
Bowe averaged about 80 receptions and 1000 yards his first two years.

Real underachievers there.

htismaqe 11-22-2011 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8133639)
Hali and Bowe were not underachieving prior to Haley's arrival.
But they've both improved dramatically since his arrival.

htismaqe 11-22-2011 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 8133722)
No way. 3 players need to be replaced on the OL and 2 on the DL. Nothing is being over - analyzed. Both lines need substantial improvement.
If Houston were performing to expectations and we had another solid LB instead of Jovan Belcher, people wouldn't be talking about the DL nearly as much. They're not stellar but they don't suck. Some of the no names (Gordon) don't look too bad either.

A real QB would instantly make this line look better.

whosyou 11-22-2011 08:32 PM
Bill Cowher was at cabbalas buying a deer blind today

Reerun_KC 11-22-2011 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by whosyou (Post 8134216)
Bill Cowher was at cabbalas buying a deer blind today
Lets hope he shoots himself in it...

Okie_Apparition 11-22-2011 08:39 PM
Cowher bought 99% of his QBs blind as well


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