Sounds like you are rooting for the league to lose?

Just like the woman that put a cup of coffee between her legs and suffered 2nd degree burns for it.

Sure, she put hot coffee where she shouldn't have, but McDonalds knew that the coffee was hot enough to cause burns leading to skin-grafs and did nothing about it.

A so called 'acceptance' of the risks here isn't going to get the NFL off the hook - it never gets the deepest pockets off the hook.

Juries do what they do. They'll see the faceless conglomerate of super-wealthy individuals that had concussion studies done and ignored and they'll compare those to the individual plaintiffs, be they players or the families of players that died.

Don't coach - bet. What you think the jury should do is irrelevant. What you claim you would do where you a 1-man jury is equally irrelevant (afterall, both you and veilpass would get your asses bounced from the pool). History tells us what the jury will do.

Ignore it at your own peril.

There is a complete and utter lack of knowledge about mental illness by some on this board. Sure their are people who are not mentally ill and just see suicide as an easy way out but most are dealing with inner demons that most of us cannot comprehend. Saying it is just an easy way out is just spouting ignorance about another person's situation. The stigma of being mentally ill, that is spouted by many on this board, is what can also cause many to not want to seek the help that is available to them.

Knowing long-term consequences isn't a doctor-level understanding. I just know that there will have to be some fully informed consent standard in this employee relationship.

There has to be mandatory clinics all players attend during training camp. The club basically needs to tell them, "By the time you're 40, there's a 50/50 chance you're going to be mentally ****ed up if you play for longer than 2 years."

Read it however you want. I love the NFL and would hate to see anything happen to it.

But I've worked with plenty of juries.

I'm not 'rooting' either way, I'm simply saying I know which side I'd be betting on once the thing went to the scorecards.

If I wanted to remain in that jury pool I assure you I could do so.

ROFL Yeah, billions of dollars at stake, they're not going to be looking deep up your pooper or anything.

If you want to watch NFL games in 10 years, I would be concerned. And I would start demanding higher standards.

Right but we haven't known about the effects of the game until recently.

Oh, well, if it's gonna' be THAT kind of party I don't want to stay anyway.

What type of things would you look for in the backgrounds of jurors in a case like that?
NFL fan status? Political bent?

And it would still likely be considered a contract of adhesion; afterall it's hardly an arms-length transaction. It's a document written by trained attorneys and presented to a guy that either gets to play football for millions or flip burgers for a living.

Once again, I know the argument will be 'well they just didn't have to play', but I can tell you that a jury's not going to buy that when they have actual corpses in front of them.

Besides, the beautiful thing about waivers is that there are very few of them that I can argue are both 1) specific enough to be clear as to what they're addressing and 2) broad enough to cover all contingencies.

Put me in a room with any document you draw up, give me enough time, money and manpower and sooner or later I'll figure out a way to attack one of those 2 problems.

It's nowhere near as straightforward as vailpass or Donger are trying to make it. If it were, the NFL would've dealt with stuff like this, injury settlements or even Free Agency a long long time ago. The NFL can't just say 'here it is, take it or leave it', or we wouldn't have FA or exorbitant salaries now would we?

I agree with this. Nobody forced any player to play football in the NFL, its their choice and risk to earn the income and lifestyle that comes with it.

I have already started demanding higher standards. Less QB protection, less restrictive rules on defenders being able to hit, the return of the wedge on kickoffs, etc.

Here's a great (very lengthy) New Yorker article from last year: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2...a_fact_mcgrath

More kids playing soccer.