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DaneMcCloud 12-04-2012 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman (Post 9179192)
Based upon what other decisions he had made previously?

Oh, I don't know.

Maybe 40+ years of choosing higher character guys?

How many other first round choices had been previously arrested for domestic assault? Or arrested at all?

The same franchise that passed on Dan Marino because he allegedly swore too much in his Chiefs interview is suddenly cool with women beaters?

DaneMcCloud 12-04-2012 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 9179195)
I agree. I just know Lamar let Carl do whatever he wanted with rounds 2-7 but he wanted to sign off on 1st rounders. I know most of us were surprised with the LJ selection. I don't know if Lamar was surprised or not.

One of my best friends was married to a prominent councilman close to the Hunt family. I knew about the cancer way back before it was made public, like two years before.

I know that Lamar suffered at times and had periods where the family didn't think he was going to make it much longer. I can't remember if one of those periods occurred during the 2003 draft because I just can't remember accurately.

But as I stated earlier, that pick was out of character, so it wouldn't surprise me if Lamar was incapable of any input or just plain unaware.

HMc 12-04-2012 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9179204)
One of my best friends was married to a prominent councilman close to the Hunt family. I knew about the cancer way back before it was made public, like two years before.

ROFL

here we go

DaneMcCloud 12-04-2012 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by HMc (Post 9179205)
ROFL

here we go

Go where?

Why is it so hard for you to believe what I've stated? I've been a member her since 2000 and am friends, Facebook friends, etc. with many forum members.

If I was lying about anything, why haven't even ONE of them called me out?

And for the record, two of my Facebook friends that have access to my life are mods.

So what's up, Mate?

DaneMcCloud 12-04-2012 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman (Post 9179136)
Prove that Scott Pioli doesn't hide information from the Hunt's? As I said, just silly.

Prove he does and then you have a viable argument. Until then, it is no more than girl gossip around a cup of tea while watching General Hospital.

I never said that. Clay said that.

Try to keep up.

DaneMcCloud 12-04-2012 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by WV (Post 9179137)
You're the one claiming to know what was going on inside Belcher's head.

Please quote that claim. Thanks.

DaneMcCloud 12-04-2012 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman (Post 9179144)
Dane, you obviously are making a straw argument based upon supposition and not in reality regarding anything with the Belcher case - and in the Johnson case as well.

Forgive me if I don't take your claims as expert knowledge, regardless of who you dated.

Wow, what an utterly ridiculous post.

First, I asked you to quote me, which you could not. So instead, you make up shit to support the idea that what you claimed I said was wrong.

JFC. That's ****ing ridiculous on a number of levels.

DaneMcCloud 12-04-2012 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 9179152)
Two notable symptoms of CTE are increased aggression and poor impulse control. The very things that cause crimes of passion.

Nothing about the crime dismisses brain trauma as a possible factor. Nothing will except an examination of Belcher's brain.

According to the Chiefs and the NFL, Belcher never had a concussion during his career. It's also been stated that he never missed a game or suffered a concussion in college.

Until it's been proven that he suffered from CTE or another form of brain damage, it's pure speculation and IMO, makes lessens the seriousness of the crime.

JohnnyV13 12-04-2012 05:54 AM

Do any of you remember Dale Carter?

That was a 1st round draft pick with plenty of pre-draft known problems. In fact, Carl Peterson was quoted as saying he worried every night about what Dale Carter might be doing.

If you recall, Carter go into an incident where shots were fired at his car after an altercation in a nightclub and on and on....

Carter was drafted no. 1 in '92

BigRock 12-04-2012 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9179214)
According to the Chiefs and the NFL, Belcher never had a concussion during his career. It's also been stated that he never missed a game or suffered a concussion in college.

Until it's been proven that he suffered from CTE or another form of brain damage, it's pure speculation and IMO, makes lessens the seriousness of the crime.

That's fine. I'm not saying head injuries had anything to do with what happened.

I'm saying the notion that "Head injuries had nothing to do with it because it was a crime of passion" is actually somewhat backwards. If anything, it helps open the door to considering brain injury as a possible factor.

But for all we know, it'll come out tomorrow that Belcher had been planning to kill her for weeks. So who knows.

Ace Gunner 12-04-2012 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 9178964)
Kind of reminds me of Chris Benoit putting Bibles by his wife and son after he killed them. Except he had hours to have done that. How do you go from that kind of rage to remorse in just a matter of seconds?

****ing hell.

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9178927)
Sometime later, Kansas City police talked with Belcher after finding him asleep in his Bentley on Armour Boulevard.

Investigators believe alcohol may have played a role in the argument’s escalation.

Alcohol is a dangerous drug. It will cause dramatic mood swings.

Mother****erJones 12-04-2012 06:40 AM

That was very hard to read. I know what he did was un forgivabley awful but he isn't the monster most make him out to be. I'm waiting to truly comment on all this until I see all the facts and not BS reports and "anonymous" callers

htismaqe 12-04-2012 07:10 AM

Wow.

This place just isn't worth it anymore.

The Chiefs have ruined Chiefsplanet.

KCWolfman 12-04-2012 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9179240)
Wow.

This place just isn't worth it anymore.

The Chiefs have ruined Chiefsplanet.

LOL

Inspector 12-04-2012 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9179058)
You can hide from the government, you can change your identity and in many cases as of late, you can hide your gender.

Yeah, but I always have to keep my knees together and walk funny. And if anyone looks at me from behind, well......


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