Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9284807)

The last two seasons are a direct result of him being there too long. If a coach can't win a championship in the first 5 years, it's time to move on.

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9284701)

No, Kyle Orton didn't even give the Chiefs a chance. He bolted for Dallas the minute they told him Cassel was the starter going forward.

Cheap owners don't shell out nearly 2.5 million for Haley to go away, 4 million for Romeo go to away and 15 million for Pioli to go away.

Sorry, the Clark is cheap bullshit is garbage. The Hunt family spent a ton on free agent contracts in the 2000s. He spent a ton of money in 2010 to get Weis and Romeo on staff as well.

Reid is going to cost 40 million. He's hiring a new GM that's going to get at least 3-5 million a year and have to hire a cap guy.

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9284954)

I am not saying you didn't get an upgrade, I personally like Reid. You people like to Judge the Raiders for how they were when Al was alive and you still think the same system is going to be run as usual... Wild erratic trading and money spending.... Raiders will prove it in the coming years, Historically the Chiefs have been cheap, until they show me otherwise, they are still going to be cheap...

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9284954)

I am not saying you didn't get an upgrade, I personally like Reid. You people like to Judge the Raiders for how they were when Al was alive and you still think the same system is going to be run as usual... Wild erratic trading and money spending.... Raiders will prove it in the coming years, Historically the Chiefs have been cheap, until they show me otherwise, they are still going to be cheap...

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9284614)

I believe that as team building is concerned, that Scott Pioli had the right approach.

You build championship teams through the draft, and dip into free agency for a couple of key additions when the time is right.

Where Pioli failed is n the actual choices he made in the draft.

The SB hasn't been won by teams that just spend money.

It's won by teams that make good picks in the draft.

Originally Posted by T. S. Eliot

Should I, after tea and cakes and ices,
Have the strength to force the moment to its crisis?
But though I have wept and fasted, wept and prayed,
Though I have seen my head (grown slightly bald) brought in upon a platter,
I am no prophet—and here’s no great matter;
I have seen the moment of my greatness flicker,
And I have seen the eternal Footman hold my coat, and snicker,
And in short, I was afraid.

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9284984)

Orton didn't want to come here in the first place. People still don't understand this. Before they even claimed him, Orton was floating that he might not report to KC to the media, because he wanted to go to Chicago. John Clayton openly reported this. He did not even want to be in KC, but he showed up, played the good employee and got out as fast as he could.

Originally Posted by Narrow Head (Post 9285094)

I hope Andy finds the second coming of Jim Johnson for defense.

Andy Reid...

-Lost an NFC championship game AND a SB purely on time management.

-Lost 3 NFC championship games at home to teams they dominated that season and seasons before.

-Had two great RB's but refused to run the ball while opting to throw 90% of the time to 3rd rate WR the best of which was Freddie Mitchell. (lol)

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9285116)

In that same amount of time the Chiefs won two division titles and ZERO playoff games.

Baby steps.

****ing baby steps...