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RippedmyFlesh 02-28-2013 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Meatloaf (Post 9453130)
Ripped, sadly, you missed my point. In 2010 one guy was HIGHLY rated by everyone - Bradford. No one else was, and interestingly, no one else in that class has done squat. This year, no one is highly rated. That bodes ill for rolling the dice on a guy at 1.1. Furthermore, and I've not researched this, but I would bet dollar to donut that the guys you listed probably led their college teams to good if not great records. Who did that this year?
WV was a big east team playing a big 12 schedule. The WV coaching staff sucks.Doug Marrone clown faced those idiots. The point being Geno has had bad coaching and still did well.
The best college teams don't produce the best nfl qb's so w/l record is not exactly the best measuring stick. Teams win college games qb's win nfl games.

Hammock Parties 02-28-2013 10:43 PM
I want to make sure we're clear here.

Dane, are you saying Alex Smith is going to be a winning QB for the Chiefs?

That he can win playoff games? Or a Super Bowl?

Pick one or all three!

DaneMcCloud 02-28-2013 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9453169)
I would have easily forgiven him if he didn't take Geno #1 and addressed the QB somewhere else...

Excuse me for being unhappy we bid against ourselves for some reason and gave up the 2nd pick in the 2nd round for Alex Smith PLUS a conditional pick in 2014 that could also be a 2nd round pick.

OH AND, IN THE SPIRIT OF DANE...I'M GOING TO SCREAM AT YOU TO GET THIS POINT ACROSS...

TWO ****ING WEEKS AGO YOU CALLED ME A ****ING DIPSHIT ASS ****ER FOR SUGGESTING THE VALUE OF ALEX SMITH TO BE A 2ND ROUND PICK. YOU SAID..."NO ****ING WAY YOU ASS****ING DIPSHIT!"

but now that it has happened and it has happened to us PLUS A PICK...we're all dumb ****ing ****s who jump off ****ing buildings because we're low life ****ing scumbag ass ****s

right dane?

DANE THE HYPOCRITE
Compensation has yet to be revealed

Hootie 02-28-2013 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9453175)
I want to make sure we're clear here.

Dane, are you saying Alex Smith is going to be a winning QB for the Chiefs?
why bother?

no matter what he says if you bring it up to him in 3 months if he's wrong he'll tell you you're a low life piece of shit who lives in his mother's basement and has no right questioning anything about him because he has a great job and his children speak four languages

Hootie 02-28-2013 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9453176)
Compensation has yet to be revealed
so when it's revealed, you're going to apologize to me I assume, right?

I'm not a big fan of being called a ****ing dipshit ass ****er when I end up being right...you know?

DaneMcCloud 02-28-2013 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9453175)
I want to make sure we're clear here.

Dane, are you saying Alex Smith is going to be a winning QB for the Chiefs?
I'm not making any predictions. I'm stating that most of the posts in this thread and others were made by people that have ever even seen Alex Smith play and hate the trade because he Chiefs decided against a QB the draft.

milkman 02-28-2013 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9453161)
I don't care. I'm just pointing out the absurdity that has taken over this forum and dominated it for months.

Apparently, Geno Smith, the QB of a 7-6 West Virginia team is the only man on planet Earth capable winning a Super Bowl for the Chiefs.

Andy Reid is now a dumbass and John Dorsey, despite his association with numerous QB's, many of them extremely successful in the NFL, has become a dumbass as well.

Without Chiefsplanet, I would have never known.
First, no one has said that about Geno.
Most would have been happy with 2 or 3 of the QBs in tbis group, and understand the potential for bust exists.
We're pissed because we 've seen this song and dance before.
You want proof of the truth in the saying that "withou risk, ther cvan be no reward"n look no further than the Chiefs.

DaneMcCloud 02-28-2013 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9453182)
so when it's revealed, you're going to apologize to me I assume, right?

I'm not a big fan of being called a ****ing dipshit ass ****er when I end up being right...you know?
Can you link me? I probably called you a dipshit but I don't remember this specific incident, as I use that term towards you often.

ThaVirus 02-28-2013 10:48 PM
You drunk, Milkman?

dirk digler 02-28-2013 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9453163)
riiight

because he didn't just get done raping the NFL like never seen before

and the Eagles, you know, didn't build any outs into that contract where if he didn't perform at the same rape level as before they couldn't get out of it by say...2013...

they weren't smart enough to do that, were they?

oh

wait

they were
They didn't really have any simple outs other than cutting him but they would have had to do that 3 days after the SB. They didn't so he got his guaranteed $3 million dollars.

He chose to restructure because he knew no one else would give him a decent contract and a chance to be a starter.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/...185088641.html

Hootie 02-28-2013 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9453184)
I'm not making any predictions. I'm stating that most of the posts in this thread and others were made by people that have ever even seen Alex Smith play and hate the trade because he Chiefs decided against a QB the draft.
LMAO

you've seen EVERYONE play, eh?

I watch more NFL than you do. I just do. I'm single, I'm obsessed, I never work Sundays (for this reason), and I have 10 $$$$ FFL leagues that are LITERALLY the obsession in my life...plus I have a gambling problem.

I've been the most realistic person about Alex Smith on this board.

He's somewhere between Trent Dilfer and Trent Green. Green is his ceiling.

If he hits Green, sure...it may end up being a good trade.

BUT ****ING EXCUSE US FOR NOT BEING HAPPY ABOUT THIS HAPPENING...AGAIN. It's a HOPELESS move for a fan base in DIRE need of HOPE.

what's so tough to get? Or can you not live without drama? Is stirring the pot the only thing that gets you through the day anymore?

Hootie 02-28-2013 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9453191)
Can you link me? I probably called you a dipshit but I don't remember this specific incident, as I use that term towards you often.
I'll find the thread in an hour. I am getting off of work as we speak. Picking up BW3 on the way home.

mr. tegu 02-28-2013 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9453161)
I don't care. I'm just pointing out the absurdity that has taken over this forum and dominated it for months.

Apparently, Geno Smith, the QB of a 7-6 West Virginia team is the only man on planet Earth capable winning a Super Bowl for the Chiefs.

Andy Reid is now a dumbass and John Dorsey, despite his association with numerous QB's, many of them extremely successful in the NFL, has become a dumbass as well.

Without Chiefsplanet, I would have never known.
A 2-14 team should be able to improve much more than what it looks like we are going to do. We handcuffed ourselves and are going to miss out on the 34th pick which means we have basically no hope of getting a legitimate developmental QB.

Whoever we draft now with the first pick will make almost no difference in terms of wins/losses and will be a reach anyways.

If we draft Joekel and lose Albert we will have traded Albert, Cassel, the 34th pick, a conditional pick, and the first overall pick for Alex Smith and Luke Joekell. That is just sad to me.

DaneMcCloud 02-28-2013 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9453190)
First, no one has said that about Geno.
Most would have been happy with 2 or 3 of the QBs in tbis group, and understand the potential for bust exists.
We're pissed because we 've seen this song and dance before.
You want proof of the truth in the saying that "withou risk, ther cvan be no reward"n look no further than the Chiefs.
And I don't understand why people can't accept that no suitable QB, for whatever reason, appealed to Dorsey and Reid in the 2013 draft.

That doesn't mean that they will never draft and develop a QB. It means they didn't want to waste their time on a prospect they didn't believe in this year.

And if they win and win big, no one will give a shit how he was acquired.

Hootie 02-28-2013 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9453196)
They didn't really have any simple outs other than cutting him but they would have had to do that 3 days after the SB. They didn't so he got his guaranteed $3 million dollars.

He chose to restructure because he knew no one else would give him a decent contract and a chance to be a starter.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/...185088641.html
so you are proving my point?

that contract was a bloated contract and the Eagles had every out to get away from it without paying a ton of money to a starting NFL QB

it happens every year...look at Fitzpatrick, Cassel

the Vick contract really wasn't that bad...the fact he regressed was the issue but you can't fault Philly for locking him up after he raped faces...and had raped faces before prison as well


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