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DaneMcCloud 03-18-2013 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 9511301)
I'ld rather go winless the next couple seasons, in order to secure top draft picks in each round in order to secure that under age 25 team, which is (obviously) destined to win the Super Bowl. Don't win now.. win LAAHHTER!

I wonder why more teams don't have this sure-fire recipe for success down?

LMAO

ChiefGator 03-18-2013 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9511309)
You are missing the point entirely, besides the fact that with the new CBA, no team is going to mortgage their future on any position other than a QB.

It is true.. I have entirely missed the point about how we are (a) stuck in a win-now mode, and (b) that is bad. We finally have a FO going out and getting good players to fill gaping holes in our roster, from the last FO, and we are complaining that they are trying to win?

I am trying to understand the point, but I really don't.

Deberg_1990 03-18-2013 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 9511304)
Hyperbole much?

Yes, he does actually.

patteeu 03-18-2013 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 9511301)
I'ld rather go winless the next couple seasons, in order to secure top draft picks in each round in order to secure that under age 25 team, which is (obviously) destined to win the Super Bowl. Don't win now.. win LAAHHTER!

I wonder why more teams don't have this sure-fire recipe for success down?

Jacksonville is working on it. They're shoe-ins for Super Bowl L.

Rausch 03-18-2013 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9511306)
No, I don't believe so.

***** never had a pick that high, and never got nothing out of it.

Pioli wasted nearly 4 drafts. I like Berry, Hudson, and Houston but that's about it. I mean, we're talking b/u players for the most part.

Hammock Parties 03-18-2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9511312)
Scott ***** hired Romeo Crennel and kept Matt Cassel around with nothing behind him for four years while apparently forcing his coaches to keep playing him. I think the Chiefs could dump their entire offensive line and use their first five picks on offensive linemen and they wouldn't match *****'s feats.

I'm talking about one for one. In a vacuum. In a moment. Not over four years.

The Chiefs dump Albert and pick Joeckel.

Find one decision Pioli made that was worse.

ChiefGator 03-18-2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9511320)
I'm talking about one for one. In a vacuum. In a moment. Not over four years.

The Chiefs dump Albert and pick Joeckel.

Find one decision ***** made that was worse.

Define the word "dump"

DaneMcCloud 03-18-2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9511238)
The reality of the situation? Ok...how about this.

**** our 2nd rounder....it's gone.
Sign Albert to a long term deal or let him play on the tender.
Trade down or fill another need on this team with the 1st overall pick.

I'm good with any of those scenarios other than allowing him to play out his tender.

Hammock Parties 03-18-2013 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9511319)
***** wasted nearly 4 drafts. I like Berry, Hudson, and Houston but that's about it. I mean, we're talking b/u players for the most part.

I'm not comparing 4 drafts to one pick.

The closest thing would be drafting Tyson Jackson #3, but at least you got something for the pick. You added something, however miniscule.

**** Albert for Joeckel.

themanwithnoname 03-18-2013 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9511138)
Doing all of that and then protecting your veteran "win now" QB with a rookie LT? Definition of reeruned.

This. Trading Albert and going for Joeckel will just be another move that flies in the face of win now.

The moves this front office is making are just baffling as they're fairly mediocre moves with little real upside, so if they're looking to win now they're really expecting the coaches to make a lot of difference. Reid said him and Dorsey believe you build through the draft, and I think that's the plan, its just a shame they felt the need to give up what they did for Alex Smith, but I think it was considered necessary (major need at QB, need someone they can realistically trot out as successful move to fans and players). I just hope they're not as married to it as they act like they are because I think its going to bite them bad.

I'm not at all impressed with the moves this front office is making thus far. Only time will tell if I hate the Alex Smith trade as much as the Cassel one or not, the rest is pretty meh (to me those moves look more like they're just plain filling needs more than have any real belief they're "win now" moves although I think they're hoping to sell fans on that). We'll see about the draft but I have a feeling I'm not going to be any more impressed with them after it.

DaneMcCloud 03-18-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9511320)
I'm talking about one for one. In a vacuum. In a moment. Not over four years.

The Chiefs dump Albert and pick Joeckel.

Find one decision ***** made that was worse.

It would save approximately $5 million against the cap and give them another four to five years before possibly replacing him.

That's all I've got.

Cannibal 03-18-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9511312)
Scott ***** hired Romeo Crennel and kept Matt Cassel around with nothing behind him for four years while apparently forcing his coaches to keep playing him. I think the Chiefs could dump their entire offensive line and use their first five picks on offensive linemen and they wouldn't match *****'s feats.

Excellent point. But I'd still prefer that they not let Albert walk and replace him 1.1.

Cannibal 03-18-2013 03:01 PM

We need a trade down to recoup that 2nd rounder.

ChiefGator 03-18-2013 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by themanwithnoname (Post 9511327)
I just hope they're not as married to it as they act like they are because I think its going to bite them bad.

All evidence points to the fact they will NOT be as maniacally married to Smith as Pioli was to Cassel. Reid has shown over and over that he is willing to change his mind on players to help his team succeed.

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-18-2013 03:03 PM

Would you trade Albert for Joeckel and Use Miami 2nd round pick on Margus Hunt DE


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