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TEX 03-11-2014 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10479914)
We're basically going with the o-line that played the SD game. That's if they don't add anyone.

Kinda like the NFL combine where player X shines and they throw out his body of work in favor of outstanding combine numbers ...:hmmm:

htismaqe 03-11-2014 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10479921)
Just bc these players are young doesn't mean they suck. Marcus Cooper won us games last year

Marcus Cooper also lost us games last year.

Young guys need to be developed. If you're developing them ON THE FIELD, you're potentially sacrificing wins now for wins in the future.

There are guys on this team that have an exceedingly short future. The purposefully signed guys last year (Alex Smith) that don't have a long window.

I understand the approach. Totally understand it.

But if you compare it to last year, where they did the EXACT opposite, it makes no sense. It appears to be very reactive and not very proactive.

OldSchool 03-11-2014 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10479819)
Gotta draft and develop, constantly. Guys like Catapano, Kush, Commings are gonna have to start being good players. You have to draft well and have the young cheap guys play like stars these days.

You forgot the other important part. Guys like DJ, Hali, Poe, Houston, Flowers, etc gotta stop sucking when the game really matters. When it came down to it, Smith stepped up, the defense went to sleep.

htismaqe 03-11-2014 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10479940)
You forgot the other important part. Guys like DJ, Hali, Poe, Houston, Flowers, etc gotta stop sucking when the game really matters.

ROFL

Dunerdr 03-11-2014 10:35 AM

Man the pannic around here right now is just funny. Two meh guards leave, a midget walks, and no news on two meh safety's and a two down ilb. Everyone loose their shit! Anyone who didn't see this coming is a ****tard. Dorsey does what Dorsey knows. Plain and simple. Do you really think our honchos really want to keep every pioli pick? **** no. I'm sure they'd like to keep either guard and DMC. But what are they really worth? Not what they're getting paid. Now we'll get some comp picks. Draft 10 ****ing guys that are what they want and fit what we're doing. Then profit.

RunKC 03-11-2014 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10479939)
Marcus Cooper also lost us games last year.

Young guys need to be developed. If you're developing them ON THE FIELD, you're potentially sacrificing wins now for wins in the future.

There are guys on this team that have an exceedingly short future. The purposefully signed guys last year (Alex Smith) that don't have a long window.

I understand the approach. Totally understand it.

But if you compare it to last year, where they did the EXACT opposite, it makes no sense. It appears to be very reactive and not very proactive.

We are developing young guys while using veterans as the focal point.

I'm glad we're not selling our souls like the Broncos. That team is ****ed when Manning retires. Their drafting has been terrible.

htismaqe 03-11-2014 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10479945)
We are developing young guys while using veterans as the focal point.

I'm glad we're not selling our souls like the Broncos. That team is ****ed when Elway retires. Their drafting has been terrible.

If you look at what they did last year and what it appears they are doing this year (and I'll be the first to admit it's WAY EARLY) you can't honestly say you have a clue what they're going to do.

There's no consistency.

RunKC 03-11-2014 10:41 AM

As much as you guys don't believe it, a youth movement is needed. Tamba and DJ are almost done, Flowers is always hurt and wants $$$ to play the ****ing slot.
Dorsey has no ****ing choice people.

OldSchool 03-11-2014 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10479957)
As much as you guys don't believe it, a youth movement is needed. Tamba and DJ are almost done, Flowers is always hurt and wants $$$ to play the ****ing slot.
Dorsey has no ****ing choice people.

Flowers and Hali are both gone next year.

mcaj22 03-11-2014 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10479957)
As much as you guys don't believe it, a youth movement is needed. Tamba and DJ are almost done, Flowers is always hurt and wants $$$ to play the ****ing slot.
Dorsey has no ****ing choice people.

that makes sense and all but if they extend 30 year old Alex Smith to a big contract then it contradicts it entirely

htismaqe 03-11-2014 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10479957)
As much as you guys don't believe it, a youth movement is needed. Tamba and DJ are almost done, Flowers is always hurt and wants $$$ to play the ****ing slot.
Dorsey has no ****ing choice people.

Who here doesn't believe it?

You're missing the point.

If the team is now recognizing this team needs to be rebuilt, especially from the inside out, why give a big contract to Bowe? Why give up two 2nds for Alex Smith, who is essentially now a transitional QB rather than your franchise?

The biggest folly of the Herm years was that they tried to patch it together in year 1 and THEN stripped it down to rebuild.

If Dorsey and Reid thought this team needed to be rebuilt, they should have started LAST YEAR.

saphojunkie 03-11-2014 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10479966)
that makes sense and all but if they extend 30 year old Alex Smith to a big contract then it contradicts it entirely

QB has a very different shelf life than cornerback.

htismaqe 03-11-2014 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10479966)
that makes sense and all but if they extend 30 year old Alex Smith to a big contract then it contradicts it entirely

Exactly.

htismaqe 03-11-2014 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10479969)
QB has a very different shelf life than cornerback.

So you're expecting to get another how many years out of Smith?

Certainly, QBs last longer than some other positions. But 38-year old QBs performing at a high level isn't the norm...

RunKC 03-11-2014 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10479955)
If you look at what they did last year and what it appears they are doing this year (and I'll be the first to admit it's WAY EARLY) you can't honestly say you have a clue what they're going to do.

There's no consistency.

I know exactly what they are doing. Relying on veterans to do all the work. Von is a dumbass who is not what he was, Chris Harris ****ed his knee up, they are losing Decker.

They're going all out with veterans without bringing in quality young players to take over and it's going to bite them in the ass soon


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