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RealSNR 11-01-2014 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 11075587)
Dex would have went in the 2nd regardless.

He wasn't overdrafted considering the talent in that draft.

Go look at the 2nd round that year. It wasn't that strong overall.

That's debatable when you have 15-20 guys that would have been better picks that people have listed. But let's run with that "the talent wasn't there" line of bullshit, which has been used to justify the Eric Fisher and Tyson Jackson selections.

Why select McCluster? He had NO role on this team. We had to manufacture one.

-Jamaal Charles was a FAR better speed back and primary ballcarrier

-It took him years to learn the slot receiver position, and even when he was learning, he never got enough reps there because the coaches thought he was this untouchable gadget player like Dante Hall. They essentially had to carve out that role for him

-When Charles was injured in 2011, McCluster was a shitty tailback, yet his presence on the team with Thomas Jones said to everybody, "Eh, no worries... we're fine at the position." No we weren't. We basically had Thomas Jones and Shaun Draughn as our primary RBs.

-Even then, we drafted him assuming he could return some kicks? Guess what our other 2nd round pick was supposed to do as well. Yep. We drafted TWO kick returners with TWO second round picks.

Maybe Philadelphia would have picked him in the 2nd round. They actually would have NEEDED him, though. We never ****ing did. Not even as a backup. We had to find a role for him to play. Remember Kris Wilson? Sound familiar to you? He was a 2nd round pick.

Drafting specialists in the 2nd round like that is the ****ing stupidest thing ever. And Pioli was notorious for that shit.

Red Dawg 11-01-2014 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11075540)
McCluster is an above average 2nd round pick? No way.

He's average at best.

He is a kick returner at best and that is it.. A little shifty with speed but zero strength. Bad pick in the second round.

chiefzilla1501 11-01-2014 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11075378)
wasn't Tennessee trying to use McCluster has a RB/Gadget guy instead of a WR/Gadget?

same stupid shit Haley tried

He doesn't have the ability to making people miss with the ball. You have to use his quickness to get to a spot and then throw him the ball behind the defenders.

I was pissed off when I found out the Chiefs were starting him off splitting time between different positions. I said his best chance of success was succeeding as a receiver and he should spend the majority of his practice time learning that.

It shouldn't surprise people that that's how it turned out. I completely disagree that you have to throw him the ball behind the defenders. He became a legit slot receiver at the end of the year. He was making back shoulder catches, caught several deep routes, etc... was probably the Chiefs' most reliable 4th quarter receiver toward the end of the year.

The Chiefs would have really benefited from keeping him. They lost him because some dumbass team overpaid him to play a role he's not suited for. As a possession receiver, he was an excellent option.

milkman 11-01-2014 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11075384)
No, because people clearly don't understand the value of certain draft picks.

Dexter in the 4th would have been a tremendously great pick. An awesome 4th round pick.

He was a slightly above average 2nd round pick. Albeit, again, forgettable.

Someday people are going to realize on this site that 2nd round picks are merely a coin flip, at best. Brandon Flowers' are about 1 in 10.

The draft is a crapshoot, not only in the 2nd round, but from the very first pick.

The goal in the second round is to find starters.

You only hit on that about 35-40% of the time, but that doesn't change the goal.

Chiefshrink 11-01-2014 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11074355)
He was slow and couldn't make people miss.

Thank ****ing goodness he is with another team. Think about it: We replaced JAG with De'Anthony Thomas.

BINGO !!:thumb:

Reerun_KC 11-01-2014 10:36 PM

He is still causing little bitches to be bitches and he's not on the team. Provably the most talked about 2nd round pick ever.

Well done dexter. Well done.

Reerun_KC 11-01-2014 10:39 PM

I would take and waste a 2nd rd pick on a player like dexter just to see the usual suspects meltdown each year. We should draft more Geno's.

RealSNR 11-01-2014 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11076057)
He is still causing little bitches to be bitches and he's not on the team. Provably the most talked about 2nd round pick ever.

Well done dexter. Well done.

You seem stupid.

Reerun_KC 11-01-2014 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11076071)
You seem stupid.

You seem like a jilted Jr high girl.

You are proving my point. Thanks

Hammock Parties 11-01-2014 10:53 PM

Reerun, equal opportunity troll.

Reerun_KC 11-01-2014 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 11076077)
Reerun, equal opportunity troll.

Yep. Dexter causing massive amounts of butt hurt.

TimBone 11-01-2014 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11076057)
He is still causing little bitches to be bitches and he's not on the team. Provably the most talked about 2nd round pick ever.

Well done dexter. Well done.

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11076061)
I would take and waste a 2nd rd pick on a player like dexter just to see the usual suspects meltdown each year. We should draft more Geno's.

Wtf are you going on about? Are you accusing people of being bleeding vaginas just for believing he wasn't worth a second rounder?

rabblerouser 11-02-2014 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 11074106)
Just goes to show that Whisenhunt really isnt very good, Dex was an All Pro returner for us and also did ok on some short passing routes and draw plays... they arent using him right.

You have to be creative with that guy and Wiz just isnt creative.

You saying Todd Haley> Wiz??

chiefzilla1501 11-02-2014 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 11076224)
You saying Todd Haley> Wiz??

What's funny is the way so many coaches are still obsessed with trying to make him into some kind of weapon he's not.

Todd Haley misused him, but then he put him full time at the slot receiver position. I would bet that the majority of Dex's growth as a player came during that time. Then Romeo/Daboll decided to put him back at RB like a moron. Andy Reid put him back in as a full time receiver. Now Whiz is stupidly putting him back in as a gadget, thinking he's his new version of Randle El.

We'll see if Whiz gets it. But he has plenty of tape to show him how dumb an idea it was in the first place.

hometeam 11-02-2014 08:38 AM

My boss once told Pioli straight to his face that McCluster sucks and it was a terrible pick. All while not knowing he was talking to Pioli.

Man thats nice.


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