I can see I'm not going to change your mind..

But Wilson is only going into his fourth season. We're all hoping things will click and Alex will suddenly become some deep threat phenom in his eleventh season. Is it not more reasonable to expect a fourth year player to improve over a guy that's been in the league for over a decade?

Also, think about the draft. How much is a 1st rounder really worth? Eric Fisher, Dee Ford, Jon Baldwin? Hell, Dwayne Bowe was one of our best 1st round picks of the past 20 ****ing years and people here HATE that guy.

Lmao. The 4 INT game. The one where he made so many clutch plays after 9/10 QBs would've folded including a beautiful pass to win the game in overtime on a play he checked into ...

Yeah man. Keep grasping for those straws.

It's hilarious that Tom Brady is the greatest because of his postseason record but Russell Wilson is Alex Smith with a defense and a RB

***NEWSFLASH***

The best defense in the Super Bowl was New England. They had a better game plan and a better team.

One guy kept Seattle in that game and also had them the game. One guy. Wilson played such a great Super Bowl and people in this board still only wanted to categorize it as "ok."

Just so dumb. So, so dumb.

Joe Montana threw 3 INT in his first NFCC win against Dallas.

But no one remembers that!

People on this board have overrated draft picks for years. Two firsts for a franchise QB would be like trading two 10 speed bicycles for a Porsche

Potentially.

There is potential for higher reward but also comes with more risk. I don't think you're stressing that enough.

You really have to weigh the risk vs reward. Passing the ball isn't always the best option.

He's the GOAT cuz his playoff record! Just like Brady! But playoff wins don't matter for Russell cuz ... Yeah!

:popcorn:

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I'll do tiers of Qbs instead of ranks.

Tier 1:
Aaron Rodgers
Andrew Luck
Tom Brady
Peyton Manning

Tier 2:
Tony Romo
Ben Roethlisberger
Philip Rivers
Drew Brees

Tier 3:
Matt Ryan
Russell Wilson
Alex Smith
Joe Flacco
Cam Newton

Tier 4:
Eli Manning
Jay Cutler
Andy Dalton
Matt Stafford
Colin Kaepernick

Tier 5:
Rest of the quarterbacks.


I think the quarterbacks in each tier are pretty much interchangeable with one another.

Exactly. Like the poster in here who said he wouldn't even give up 5 1sts for Luck. ROFL

LMAO Yeah he needed to make those passes because HE THEW 4 INTERCEPTIONS IN THAT GAME.

He was only in position to make those plays because the defense was able to hold Aaron Rodgers in check and Mike McCarthy coached like a dumbass in the 4th quarter.

There aren't many quarterbacks given the luxury of throwing 4 interceptions and still being in the game at the very end. I'm not going to praise a guy for playing like ass for 98% of a game but still pulling a win out of his ass. If you don't throw 4 INTs that game, you don't need to rely on a punter throwing a touchdown pass and needing to make two very great clutch throws at the last second to win.

That ends up being the case with some Andrew Luck games.

Remember when the 49ers defense put Alex Smith in a position to make some plays because they held Eli Manning in check.

And then, oops.

He was Alex Smith and those plays never happened.

Luck gets the excuses, Russell doesn't. It's Tom and Peyton redux

Andrew Luck has never had a 4 INT game. And even in the 3 INT games he won (two of them) he also threw 4 touchdowns in each. Russell Wilson threw 1 touchdown in that 4 INT game.