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Discuss Thrower 11-03-2015 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus (Post 11862279)
I dont expect Clark to say the 'truth' in public statements...I have to assume that Clark is saying 'we can do better than this' in private.

Team is on path to get somewhere close to 8-8 and will probably finish the year with like a 6-4 run. The narrative is all but set for "Just a few key additions and some good drafting, and this is easily a team that can go deep in the playoffs."

We're in the middle of rehashing the 2004 season.

Because Chiefs.

O.city 11-03-2015 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11862320)
Jay Cutler.

We should not have lost that game.

The Bears aren't very good, but Cutler isn't shitty. Another misinformed idea around here.

And yes, we should have not lost that game.

RunKC 11-03-2015 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11862328)
The Bears aren't very good, but Cutler isn't shitty. Another misinformed idea around here.

And yes, we should have not lost that game.

We've beaten 3 terrible QB's. How can you possibly see this as progress?

At the very least, this team needs a new DC, a new play caller and a new QB.

KCTitus 11-03-2015 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11862296)
Please do some research before you open your mouth.

No, I'm good.

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Originally Posted by RealSNR
He didn't come from a spread offense/option system.

And neither did Wilson, for ****'s sake. Neither at NC State OR at Wisconsin.

And there have been a few spread system QBs to work out in the NFL. Rodgers, Romo, McNabb, and Culpepper are a few.

And if you really want to go this far... even Chase Daniel.

They require time and patience. If you draft one in the 1st round and expect them to automatically integrate the new principles they work on in one offseason just for the sake of getting them important snaps so you don't waste their 1st round contract, you're going to get a bad QB.

THAT'S the big difference between the spread QBs who fail and the ones who can find success.

Well, for ****s sake...forgive me for using the wrong term. I really dont GAF what it's called, I dont want the QB that plays for a college school that is the 'best athlete' on the field that typically bails out his team with a scramble, pull the ball down and run for the TD, cause that shit doesnt work in the NFL. I would prefer a QB who plays in a system and in a way that works in the NFL...those types of QB's that have to use their teammates rather than their other worldly speed to win games have more success in the league called the NFL.

Discuss Thrower 11-03-2015 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11862341)
We've beaten 3 terrible QB's. How can you possibly see this as progress?

At the very least, this team needs a new DC, a new play caller and a new QB.

I love the whole argument "Well of course things don't go well when you go against good defenses, duh!"






...


Isn't that the whole point of trading for a veteran QB and getting an established HC ... to mitigate the advantage of an opponent having a superior defense?

Rausch 11-03-2015 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11862312)
I'm shocked that when we face a defense playing at an all time great level, everything doesn't "work".

Sometimes I think in reality, some people are just morons.

This all or nothing attitude is simplistic and idiotic.

There's a huge difference between not being able to score on a great D and your whole offense looking like total dog$#it.

It doesn't require a great D for us to look lost on the field.

But for the half-full people we don't face a legit D for the rest of the year after Denver...

KCTitus 11-03-2015 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11862325)
Team is on path to get somewhere close to 8-8 and will probably finish the year with like a 6-4 run. The narrative is all but set for "Just a few key additions and some good drafting, and this is easily a team that can go deep in the playoffs."

We're in the middle of rehashing the 2004 season.

Because Chiefs.

Do you know this for a fact or is it your conjecture? I'm cynical, but that's pretty out there.

O.city 11-03-2015 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus (Post 11862346)
No, I'm good.



Well, for ****s sake...forgive me for using the wrong term. I really dont GAF what it's called, I dont want the QB that plays for a college school that is the 'best athlete' on the field that typically bails out his team with a scramble, pull the ball down and run for the TD, cause that shit doesnt work in the NFL. I would prefer a QB who plays in a system and in a way that works in the NFL...those types of QB's that have to use their teammates rather than their other worldly speed to win games have more success in the league called the NFL.

Bridgewater did none of those things. He was a pure pocket passer at Louisville

The Franchise 11-03-2015 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus (Post 11862346)
No, I'm good.



Well, for ****s sake...forgive me for using the wrong term. I really dont GAF what it's called, I dont want the QB that plays for a college school that is the 'best athlete' on the field that typically bails out his team with a scramble, pull the ball down and run for the TD, cause that shit doesnt work in the NFL. I would prefer a QB who plays in a system and in a way that works in the NFL...those types of QB's that have to use their teammates rather than their other worldly speed to win games have more success in the league called the NFL.

Bridgewater ran for 170 yards.....in his entire college career.

Rausch 11-03-2015 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 11862293)

They require time and patience. If you draft one in the 1st round and expect them to automatically integrate the new principles they work on in one offseason just for the sake of getting them important snaps so you don't waste their 1st round contract, you're going to get a bad QB.

THAT'S the big difference between the spread QBs who fail and the ones who can find success.

And this is why they don't pan out anymore.

No one is willing to let a 1st round QB sit for more than one year, if they even get that. No team will put in the time necessary to groom them...

O.city 11-03-2015 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11862352)
I love the whole argument "Well of course things don't go well when you go against good defenses, duh!"






...


Isn't that the whole point of trading for a veteran QB and getting an established HC ... to mitigate the advantage of an opponent having a superior defense?

You aren't going to consistently move the ball against a defense as good as the Broncos, no?

The Franchise 11-03-2015 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11862361)
And this is why they don't pan out anymore.

No one is willing to let a 1st round QB sit for more than one year, if they even get that. No team will put in the time necessary to groom them...

Which is why this is the perfect year to take one. Smith isn't going anywhere for another year (barring major injury). Might as well draft one and let him sit for a year.

Rausch 11-03-2015 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11862362)
You aren't going to consistently move the ball against a defense as good as the Broncos, no?

With one of the worst 3rd down conversion percentages in the league?

Probably not...

Rausch 11-03-2015 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11862365)
Which is why this is the perfect year to take one. Smith isn't going anywhere for another year (barring major injury). Might as well draft one and let him sit for a year.

Any year for the last 2 would have been the perfect year.

Our only attempt at QB in the draft (in three offseasons) was a 5th rounder and an UDRFA...

O.city 11-03-2015 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11862372)
With one of the worst 3rd down conversion percentages in the league?

Probably not...

Well, did we move the ball against the Broncos defense this year?

I'd be curious to see where we stand in line with their other opponents in terms of offensive production.


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