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BossChief 04-14-2016 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12178232)
If I'm the Titans.....I take one of those 2nd round picks and use my #15 to trade up into the top 10 to get Ronnie Stanley.

Lewan isn't a bad left tackle.

IMO they should stay put and draft BPA because that will likely fill needs, anyway.

They don't even have a starting LCB and they can use upgrades at a couple DL spots. They can easily upgrade their LB corps.

They need to improve their receiving corps, too.

Rams Fan 04-14-2016 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12177948)
Their ol isn't good, they do ha e Gurley though, but their wrs a d TE's are ?

I dunno, don't know that I see it

OL isn't an issue.

Barnes is fine as center. Havenstein, as a rookie who played and started 12 games at RT, didn't give up a single sack. I think Robinson progressed near the end of the season. And LG Brown started as a rookie until he went on IR. At this point Saffold is a luxury.

Not to mention the # of 2nd year OLers who aren't starting, including three who did get some experience starting last season(Donnal, Williams, Wichmann) and the one who didn't (Battle). The OL should be considered a strength, not an issue.

As for WR, Britt is the only option who can start on a majority of other teams. I'd consider Austin that as well, but he gets touches through running the ball. Bailey shouldn't be counted to contribute to his recovery. Marquez can showed some promise. Everyone else is JAG, including Quick until he shows that last season was him needing time to recover from his shoulder injury.

As far as TE, well, the best receiving option was cut(Cook). Kendricks is an above average receiver and good blocker. And Harkey is utilized as a fullback. So virtually nothing at TE.

DaneMcCloud 04-14-2016 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 12178330)
Janoris Jenkins
Rodney McLeod
Chris Long
Jame Larenitis

:facepalm:

pugsnotdrugs19 04-14-2016 11:38 AM

One thing that hasn't really been talked about, is the possibility of us trading up for a player (likely a CB, in front of Pittsburgh)

If they really like Alexander, or WJ3, and think PIT might snag said CB, I could see us going up a handful of spots. We'd be in a fine situation to do so as well, because with 4 comp picks next year we could afford to give up a 3rd next year and still get one back with the comp choice.

YayMike 04-14-2016 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12178374)
One thing that hasn't really been talked about, is the possibility of us trading up for a player (likely a CB, in front of Pittsburgh)

If they really like Alexander, or WJ3, and think PIT might snag said CB, I could see us going up a handful of spots. We'd be in a fine situation to do so as well, because with 4 comp picks next year we could afford to give up a 3rd next year and still get one back with the comp choice.

From everything I've seen and read, we should be able to get a quality player where we are, and without giving up anything. If we are truly going to lose the 3rd round pick to the "tampering" we can ill afford to trade any picks to move up. JMO

pugsnotdrugs19 04-14-2016 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by YayMike (Post 12178385)
From everything I've seen and read, we should be able to get a quality player where we are, and without giving up anything. If we are truly going to lose the 3rd round pick to the "tampering" we can ill afford to trade any picks to move up. JMO

I get what you're saying, but there is always the possibility that Dorsey thinks Alexander or WJ3 can be the perfect compliment to Peters for the next several years, or who knows, maybe it's an entirely different position. But if that would be the case, now is the time to push the chips to the middle with some of our key contributors at critical ages. Of course, Dorsey ultimately sets out to compete every single year, so I wouldn't say it fits his M.O. to make the move. Possible though.

Rams Fan 04-14-2016 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12178369)
:facepalm:

2 of those players(Jenkins,McLeod) are definitely losses. I do think at least one of Gaines and Joyner will be successful in replacing them, though.

At this point Long isn't. And I don't think Laurinaitis is a loss, but you could argue that him, Tree, and Ayers at LB with Barron at S is better than better than Barron, Tree, and Ayers at LB.

Additionally, losing Fairley is a kind of a big deal. He served nicely as a 3rd DT.

Toby Waller 04-14-2016 11:47 AM

Lol of course it happened.

BleedingRed 04-14-2016 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 12178396)
2 of those players(Jenkins,McLeod) are definitely losses. I do think of Gaines and Joyner will be successful in replacing them, though.

At this point Long isn't. And I don't think Laurinaitis is a loss, but you could argue that him, Tree, and Ayers at LB with Barron at S is better than better than Barron, Tree, and Ayers at LB.

Additionally, losing Fairley is a kind of a big deal. He served nicely as a 3rd DT.

Well, I still consider Cut's losses.... But BARRON has shown NOTHING...

Rams Fan 04-14-2016 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 12178404)
Well, I still consider Cut's losses.... But BARRON has shown NOTHING...

Regarding Barron, that is simply not true. He has been nothing short of stellar since he's been with the Rams. Unless you mean if his body can hold up playing LB due to being undersized. That is a fair question.

BleedingRed 04-14-2016 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 12178407)
Regarding Barron, that is simply not true. He has been nothing short of stellar since he's been with the Rams. Unless you mean if his body can hold up playing LB due to being undersized. That is a fair question.

EVEN if he is playing the Weak side, he is 6'2 and only 213 pounds... Height isn't as big of factor as weight. He is going to get destroyed vs Run game. He might have the speed, but a WR can still block him easy.

The Franchise 04-14-2016 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 12178419)
EVEN if he is playing the Weak side, he is 6'2 and only 213 pounds... Height isn't as big of factor as weight. He is going to get destroyed vs Run game. He might have the speed, but a WR can still block him easy.

Deone Bucannon does it and he's only 216 lbs.

O.city 04-14-2016 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12178290)
It's a big boy league.

Sure, we'd all love to get HoFers in the 5th round but that doesn't really happen. Everything in this league comes at some sacrifice and the Rams have chosen to make theirs to give themselves their best shot at securing the thing that has held them back since Warner left.

"Making things harder" isn't really an argument I buy - this league is hard to win in, period. This doesn't make it harder at all if Wentz/Goff turns out the be the force multiplier at QB that the Rams think he'll be.

And if he isn't, they just blow it up and start over, which is probably easier than trying to slowly drag yourself out of the middle of the pack.

For ine, I think the calculus for the force multiplier that is a qb has changed. I'll take my stron roster and a good qb over your great qb and average roster 9 times out of 10.

BleedingRed 04-14-2016 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12178432)
Deone Bucannon does it and he's only 216 lbs.

230weight min neither of those guys will be on the level of Lavonte David, Sean Lee, ect... And considering the Rams have Alec Olgletree at Weakside, are you going to move him to Middle I'll assume?

ChiefsCountry 04-14-2016 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12178451)
For ine, I think the calculus for the force multiplier that is a qb has changed. I'll take my stron roster and a good qb over your great qb and average roster 9 times out of 10.

I'll take Andrew Luck and the Colts roster over Alex Smith and the Chiefs roster anyday of the week.


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