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ThaVirus 11-19-2016 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn (Post 12562817)
I won't pass judgment til a see him with a above avg quarterback. Has any #2 receiver been productive with smith at the helm?

Most #1s aren't even productive with Smith.

RunKC 11-19-2016 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 12562655)
Denver beat NE by first jamming receivers, disrupting timing. That allowed them to get pressure. The Chiefs playing man coverage 8 yards off will get shredded by Brady and Peters and company aren't great pressing.

The Chiefs are going to have to play a different type of defense than what they've been winning with. And it's going to have to be defense that beats NE. Or we can hope to face a different opponent in the post season
I agree with Sutton playing zone when they didn't have a running game and it worked well for the most part. We put them in bad situations and the pass rush didn't come through and that's what killed us.

3rd and 10
3rd and 13
3rd and 7
3rd and 7

They converted all of those mostly bc we had little pressure on Brady and he had all the time in the world.

If Houston is back to himself that will change drastically in our favor.

DaneMcCloud 11-19-2016 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12562793)
Strange that he's become nothing more than a possession receiver with his measurables
It's not surprising, at all, considering he's not explosive off the line. He's also got tight hips, something DJ's Left Nut had pointed out when he was drafted.

I don't think he'll ever have the physicality of an Anquan Boldin but if his ceiling is a 700-800 yard possession receiver, that's great value for a 3rd rounder.

ThaVirus 11-19-2016 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12562825)
It's not surprising, at all, considering he's not explosive off the line. He's also got tight hips, something DJ's Left Nut had pointed out when he was drafted.

I don't think he'll ever have the physicality of an Anquan Boldin but if his ceiling is a 700-800 yard possession receiver, that's great value for a 3rd rounder.

He's still got great speed and height with insane explosion off the ground. He should be a vertical and red-zone threat.

RunKC 11-19-2016 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12562835)
He's still got great speed and height with insane explosion off the ground. He should be a vertical and red-zone threat.
He is. Our QB missed him last week

NJChiefsFan 11-19-2016 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12562825)
It's not surprising, at all, considering he's not explosive off the line. He's also got tight hips, something DJ's Left Nut had pointed out when he was drafted.

I don't think he'll ever have the physicality of an Anquan Boldin but if his ceiling is a 700-800 yard possession receiver, that's great value for a 3rd rounder.
I also think he has decent after the catch skills.

notorious 11-19-2016 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12562850)
He is. Our QB missed him last week
God Damnit.


Smith missed some easy TD's last week. He needs to pull his head out of his ass.



If he figures out what is wrong, this team is going to be complete.

RunKC 11-19-2016 11:42 AM
Still blows my mind that Andy won't run more crossing routes with Conley. That's a tall ****ing guy with long arms, especially against midget CB's that Tampa will be sporting.

Andy needs to give all of the designed plays Harris gets and give them to Conley from now on. He's far more athletic and his hands are reliable.

Discuss Thrower 11-19-2016 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn (Post 12562817)
I won't pass judgment til a see him with a above avg quarterback. Has any #2 receiver been productive with smith at the helm?
#2 receiver based on position?

2011 - Kyle Williams: 20 catches, 241 yards 3 TDs (#1 Crabtree: 72 rec 874 yds 4 TDs)
2013 - McCluster: 53 catches, 511 yards 2 TDs (#1 Bowe: 57 rec 673 yds 5 TDs)
2014 - D' Thomas: 23 catches, 156 yards 0 TDs (Bowe replicated the year before stat wise with 0 TDs)
2015 - A Wilson: 35 catches, 451 yards 2 TDs.

threebag 11-19-2016 11:48 AM
This offense has had a ton of dropped passes it seems.

ThaVirus 11-19-2016 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12562850)
He is. Our QB misses him every week

FYP

DaneMcCloud 11-19-2016 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12562884)
FYP
That's silly. He has 50 less yards this season than Maclin.

The blame for Conley's low number of receptions (27) is due to Andy Reid's game plan.

Funny how Andy can game plan in shitty Albert Wilson when Maclin's out or Tyreek Hill (which isn't a complaint - just a comparison) yet Conley see 3 passes a game.

DaneMcCloud 11-19-2016 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 12562858)
I also think he has decent after the catch skills.
For sure. He's made a huge leap from his rookie season. Many times, he looks like Maclin out there.

It's mind bottling why he's not more involved.

ThaVirus 11-19-2016 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12562890)
That's silly. He has 50 less yards this season than Maclin.

The blame for Conley's low number of receptions (27) is due to Andy Reid's game plan.

Funny how Andy can game plan in shitty Albert Wilson when Maclin's out or Tyreek Hill (which isn't a complaint - just a comparison) yet Conley see 3 passes a game.

Yeah, during Maclin's worst season as a pro while dealing with injury and the loss of a friend.

Mother****erJones 11-19-2016 12:26 PM
Conley should be used in the slot more


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