Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13231215)

LMAO

You're an idiot.

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 13231221)

K.

Reid is the passing version of Marty. The safest option yielding positive yardage is the most preferable.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13231223)

No, you're just an idiot. Yes, sometimes the primary is a short route.

That does not mean that Reid isn't calling routes at every level of the field, or that he's "limiting" Alex.

You have no proof to your claim.

Meanwhile, i have proof in damn near every play that's been gif'd.

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 13231181)

Timing and understanding what the receivers are going to do based on the defense is the bigger problem and the reason you *have* to stick with Smith.

However I distinctly recall a horseshit simplified offense led by Tim Tebow being able to confound a decent defense in a do-or-die divisional road game that wound up being decisive for the Broncos getting into the playoffs in 2011.

Mahomes is clearly a better passer than Tebow; Reid is ostensibly a better head coach than John Fox and a better offensive game planner than Mike McCoy: he should be able to devise a simplified playbook that allows for success for a QB throwing the ball more than 10 times in a game.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13231235)

When DeShaun Watson started, Bill O'Brien changed his gameplan to work with the kid.

I think Andy would do the same.

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 13231233)

Proof? You mean the last four complete seasons of games with the same play caller, quarterback and skill players of similar overall levels of quality?

The gifs you're citing have selective bias in them.


What we saw Sunday wasn't a fluke; that was by design.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13231284)

The Gif's aren't selective. I didn't select them, dipshit.

AND, the obvious vertical routes aren't limited to this thread. They're in EVERY Gif'd up thread.

It's ok. You struggle with simple things. I see that.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13230362)

ASS11 on the ALL22: missing Kelce wide open down the seam, missing the throw he does attempt.

https://i.imgur.com/Ts0DBSU.gif

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13231125)

One thing we can take away from this:

Andy Reid calls a shit ton of deep routes. It's not debateable anymore.

Everytime Alex gets Gif'd up you'll find receivers running vertical routes.

This "Andy limits Alex/This offense with his dink and dunk playcalling" can DIAF now.

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13230998)

These GIFs are why I just refuse to blame Andy Reid for the offensive struggles. Almost every play, we are seeing at least one guy get open. Often wide open. It's not like the play designs aren't doing what they are supposed to.

The pumpkin just isn't throwing the football where he should be.

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 13231321)

:facepalm:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selection_bias

GifHorse is typically only posting gifs of plays that resulted in failures. You're not seeing the whole picture.

Reid hand picked Smith in spite of his long track record of being risk averse. Remember that.

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 13231514)

I've heard Andy "watches the film", if that's true he's seeing the same things and is 100% responsible for not pulling Alex.

So yes, he is responsible..

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13230998)

The pumpkin just isn't throwing the football where he should be.

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 13231206)

They're running routes to "keep the defense honest."

If you can find plays where Smith is looking downfield but opts for the shorter routes, then you'd have some semblance of proof that Reid's gameplan is being torpedoed by Smith.