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Blick 09-16-2019 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14452743)
He's just young. He hasn't built up the experience yet to be that consistent all-around pass-rusher/run defender that he probably will become in two or three years.

Heck, Clark's presence on the team just might be exactly what Jones needs to learn how to be a great professional football player.

I hope so.

-King- 09-16-2019 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14451782)
Mack wrecked a hurting Packers OL and made a backup QB who isn't even in GB anymore look horrible bc he held the ball forever. That’s amazing isn’t it?

Mack got paid all that money and didn’t do anything that game when Rodgers came back.

Rodgers took a giant shit on their expensive diety and led a comeback win on one leg.

Context matters

Uh...so exactly like when the Jags were on their 3rd string LT and backup QB?

-King- 09-16-2019 02:19 PM

I think people for some reason think saying he hasn't lived up to expectations yet = he totally sucks which it doesn't. Clark doesn't suck at all. But for his expectations and his pay level, saying things like he's drawing penalties or he drawing double teams doesn't really do it for me. Very high expectations is the price you pay for signing 100mil contracts.

-King- 09-16-2019 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Blick (Post 14452239)
It blows my mind that people want to see individual stats above good team defense.

Jesus Christ that's not what people are saying.

JohnnyHammersticks 09-16-2019 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 14452740)
Honey Badger had an awful game. He was solely responsible for the Faders only TD.

I hope he gets his shit together- he looks like Hobo 2.0 out there.

He's exactly like Troy Polamalu. Except tinier, with skinny little legs and zero play-making ability.

eDave 09-16-2019 02:39 PM

Overreaction Planet

Chris Meck 09-16-2019 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14452791)
I think people for some reason think saying he hasn't lived up to expectations yet = he totally sucks which it doesn't. Clark doesn't suck at all. But for his expectations and his pay level, saying things like he's drawing penalties or he drawing double teams doesn't really do it for me. Very high expectations is the price you pay for signing 100mil contracts.

and all I'm saying is a two game stretch is nothing to judge on.

for comparison, I posted Mack's stats over the very same two games-and Clark is about the same.

Blick 09-16-2019 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14452799)
Jesus Christ that's not what people are saying.

Really?

Team defense is better.

People are complaining about Clark's individual impact.

What are people saying then?

Chris Meck 09-16-2019 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 14452835)
Overreaction Planet

why did I waste so many words trying to explain? This is really all there was to say.

Mecca 09-16-2019 02:57 PM

This is a narrative that isn't going to go away, 610 is playing into it. They had Bill Maas on today and he basically went the route of "anyone defending him by saying he's being doubled and chipped that's just dumb, if you pay a guy this kind of money I don't care what the offense does he has to make plays or it's a bad deal"

Which then lead to 10 minutes of the hosts talking about how Clark sucks.

-King- 09-16-2019 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Blick (Post 14452853)
Really?

Team defense is better.

People are complaining about Clark's individual impact.

What are people saying then?

That they expected Clark to make more of an individual aspect given his 100M contract. It's that simple. You can discuss individual players without it being and indictment on the team overall.

Just like I can say Erving was a terrible run blocker yesterday without it meaning our offense overall was terrible.

People are just being overly defensive over any Frank Clark criticism.

-King- 09-16-2019 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14452852)
and all I'm saying is a two game stretch is nothing to judge on.

for comparison, I posted Mack's stats over the very same two games-and Clark is about the same.

Like I said, no one is saying that Clark sucks other than SNR and he walked that back. But you can talk about his performance in these two games.

I don't see anyone saying "It's only been 2 games, we can't discuss Mahomes performance yet". Not surprisingly you're only saying that about a player who hasn't been that good so far.

Chris Meck 09-16-2019 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14452906)
Like I said, no one is saying that Clark sucks other than SNR and he walked that back. But you can talk about his performance in these two games.

I don't see anyone saying "It's only been 2 games, we can't discuss Mahomes performance yet". Not surprisingly you're only saying that about a player who hasn't been that good so far.

I judge Clark on his body of work. Not just the last two games. Last year, he was one of the best edge players in football, with stats comparable to Mack. He's still that guy. He just doesn't have a sack yet. if you watch him, play after play, you see what a good football player he is. He's absolutely one of the best players on that defense in both games. He just doesn't have the sack stats that make casual fans cream in their jeans.

I'm sure that will come as well.

IF you're judging him poorly on these two games, then you're a SACK STAT guy, in which you're looking at an edge player and saying, " well, if he was 15 sacks for the season, that means he ought to pretty much have one every game". That rarely happens. Sacks tend to come in bunches.

By the end of the season, everybody will be in agreement that Clark is a damned fine player and we're glad to have him.

DTVietnam 09-18-2019 05:35 AM

well hes doubling Dee Fords production..he has 2 tackles ..Dee Ford has 1..

big improvement in the run defense...doubling Fords production!!@!!!!!

TambaBerry 09-18-2019 05:55 AM

i dont give a **** if frank clark ever gets a sack he has already made a difference just by his attitude and his ability to set the edge. its not money what do i care what he is paid


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