If we trade Gorman, I will be irate. We need cheap, young talent since Mo can't figure out veteran contracts.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">John Gant has walked the bases loaded. <br><br>But!<br><br>Nolan Gorman has homered four times in two games (and the second game is only in the top of the third). <a href="https://t.co/kcNw5S0Y2u">https://t.co/kcNw5S0Y2u</a></p>&mdash; Katie Woo (@katiejwoo) <a href="https://twitter.com/katiejwoo/status/1403864951299661826?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 13, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

3 jacks now today. In the 4th inning.

My potential legit lineup for 2022 is looking better and better. :thumb:

Man, the wheels really fell off this season in a hurry.

He still has a lot to prove. Let's see him doing this at the Triple A level consistently before he is crowned anything.

oh yeah, I agree. That 2022 line up had a lot of “if’s” in it. O’Neill continues to lay off the outside slider. Carlson continues to develop. If Gorman continues on his path. If Arenado doesn't opt-out. If they sign a middle of the order bat… etc.etc.

If, if and more if’s. But….. there is potentially a legit 2022 lineup.

Do you really think that Mo is going to sign a middle of the order bat and more, improved, pitching? I have no faith that he will do those things.

I thought Arenado would put the Cards over the top this season.

When you have four starting pitchers out for significant parts of the season, Babe Ruth couldn't fix this team.

Don’t panic and trade away more bats

They’ve shown they can develop some starting pitching

What's this gonna make it, 0-6 vs the Cubs on the year?

we have a lack of talent. We are not one pitcher away from a World Series. Anyone trading a worthy piece with us is going to demand Gorman +. We need Gorman for 6 years, not a starting pitcher rental.

I wish, but no. You guys did win one game in St. Louis so you're 1-5.

I believe I said it when you guys got Arenado that I didn't think he made your team a winner. The Cardinals looked a lot like what I've been watching for the last 3 years, a couple decent bats in the middle of the lineup and 1 quality pitcher surrounded by a whole bunch of question marks.

Looking at Arenado's contract I don't believe he'll opt out but I don't think he was too happy with the Rockies and if the Cardinals don't make moves to improve the team he just might opt out.

Weren't there a couple deals involving Carlson a couple years ago that seemed pretty good but you were like no he's untouchable? Would you make those trades today if they were offered? He's not a good defender and he's looking like a league average bat.

The Cubs traded a better prospect than anything you have for a rental closer to win a WS and I wouldn't take it back.

Not apples to apples.

You had several top prospects already playing at a high level. Giving up 1 of 6 top prospects that were already playing at Wrigley to win a WS for the first time in 100+ years was a move any team would have made.

Gorman is the only player we have that could possibly be at a Bryant/Baez/Rizzo level. We need more of those, not trade away the only one we have currently.