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DanBecky 07-16-2021 01:11 PM

Releford had a much more consistent jump shot and he was awesome in transition.

sedated 07-16-2021 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 15743190)
Releford was a better defender and a better scorer.

What?? Garrett was national defensive player of the year.

lawrenceRaider 07-16-2021 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 15743430)
What?? Garrett was national defensive player of the year.

And?

sedated 07-16-2021 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 15743445)
And?

Agree to disagree. Releford was great, but Garrett was one of the best (small) defenders I've seen in a KU uniform.

Buehler445 07-16-2021 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 15743451)
Agree to disagree. Releford was great, but Garrett was one of the best (small) defenders I've seen in a KU uniform.

Yeah. It’s hard to compare. Releford was doing different stuff. If he’s asked to lock down the point guard he wouldn’t be as effective as Garrett but Garrett didn’t have anywhere in the same universe of length as Releford.

I remember all our bigs were in foul trouble and they made him 4 and the 5 man cleared out and they were going to go right at Releford. I thought hooo boy, here we go. Dude didn’t score and eventually they went back to their normal offense. It was awesome. I think they should have done it more.

Releford could do more things but if you’re looking at strictly guarding point guards Garrett was better.

Fansy the Famous Bard 07-17-2021 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15744016)
Yeah. It’s hard to compare. Releford was doing different stuff. If he’s asked to lock down the point guard he wouldn’t be as effective as Garrett but Garrett didn’t have anywhere in the same universe of length as Releford.

I remember all our bigs were in foul trouble and they made him 4 and the 5 man cleared out and they were going to go right at Releford. I thought hooo boy, here we go. Dude didn’t score and eventually they went back to their normal offense. It was awesome. I think they should have done it more.

Releford could do more things but if you’re looking at strictly guarding point guards Garrett was better.

Releford's versatility is definitely what made him great. He was strong enough to guard big guys in the low post adequately. He had quickness, length, instincts and incredible strength for someone that size. Marcus had quickness, length, and instincts.

Kiimo 07-17-2021 11:18 AM

Man Releford had that Eurostep DOWN by the end of his career. I'd take Relford over Garrett any day of the week

KC_Connection 07-17-2021 08:14 PM

Garrett is the better defender for me, but it's close enough that I can't really argue strongly either way. I think some of the answers might be different here had the 2019-2020 gotten the chance to win the national championship it deserved. Garrett was the best defender in all of college basketball that year. Last year isn't the best measuring stick, both because I don't think he was entirely healthy for most of it and because he expended way more energy on the offensive end.

Buehler445 07-18-2021 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 15744879)
Garrett is the better defender for me, but it's close enough that I can't really argue strongly either way. I think some of the answers might be different here had the 2019-2020 gotten the chance to win the national championship it deserved. Garrett was the best defender in all of college basketball that year. Last year isn't the best measuring stick, both because I don't think he was entirely healthy for most of it and because he expended way more energy on the offensive end.

Which sucks. He’d have a much better look from scouts IMO if he were allowed to ball out on D, Rebound (he got an absurd number of rebounds) and slash on offense. I think he can fit on an NBA team. But he had to flounder and run plays to his weaknesses half the game. Film certainly wasn’t representative of his skills.

Chief Pagan 07-18-2021 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15745348)
Which sucks. He’d have a much better look from scouts IMO if he were allowed to ball out on D, Rebound (he got an absurd number of rebounds) and slash on offense. I think he can fit on an NBA team. But he had to flounder and run plays to his weaknesses half the game. Film certainly wasn’t representative of his skills.

I wish him the best but it seems like he is going to be too big a liability on offense to get very many minutes unless he can really improve his three point shot.

Fansy the Famous Bard 07-18-2021 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 15745417)
I wish him the best but it seems like he is going to be too big a liability on offense to get very many minutes unless he can really improve his three point shot.

Or any shot, for that matter.

Buehler445 07-18-2021 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 15745417)
I wish him the best but it seems like he is going to be too big a liability on offense to get very many minutes unless he can really improve his three point shot.

Probably right. I’m just looking at these finals rosters and all the ****ers that can’t play. Seems like If he was on Milwaukee today he’s get 10 min it’s just to guard Booker.

KC_Connection 07-18-2021 04:21 PM

Worse offensive players than Garrett have played in the league. It’s not impossible.

BWillie 07-18-2021 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 15745529)
Worse offensive players than Garrett have played in the league. It’s not impossible.

Andre Roberson.

BigRedChief 07-18-2021 08:42 PM

So Chicago road trip?

Kansas, Gonzaga, UCLA and Michigan will snare No. 1 seeds in the 2022 NCAA Tournament, according to ESPN.com’s current bracketology put together by analyst Joe Lunardi.

ESPN.com published Lunardi’s latest predictions on Monday. They take into account recent announcements by college players concerning their status for the 2021 NBA Draft.

Last week, KU’s Ochai Agbaji, Jalen Wilson and Remy Martin indicated they would exit the draft and play at KU in 2021-22.

Lunardi believes KU will be awarded a No. 1 seed in the Midwest Regional, which has Chicago as host for Sweet 16 and Elite Eight games.


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