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The Franchise 10-13-2022 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16526674)
I just don't see how they can sign OBJ long-term at this point. It would likely require them to up their already high offer and I don't see the Chiefs being willing to do that, considering what they have to do to help him.

I'm not even comfortable offering him what they offered him before. He can accept $16 million a season or he can kick ****ing rocks.

I don't know what the **** happened to him between last year and this year...but it's going to cost him millions.

Chris Meck 10-13-2022 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16526679)
I'm not even comfortable offering him what they offered him before. He can accept $16 million a season or he can kick ****ing rocks.

I don't know what the **** happened to him between last year and this year...but it's going to cost him millions.

I'm not either.

RunKC 10-13-2022 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16526651)
How about we let Brown walk, take the #3 comp pick, and sign Yosh Nijman, RFA from Green Bay for an average starting LT deal? Green Bay cannot cut Bahktiari, nor would they want to if he's back healthy, and they can't pay two LT's.

And then we can just get on with our lives.

GB isn’t stupid. They’ll slap the first rd tender on that guy…and idk about you but I’m not giving the Packers a 1st rd pick for that

The Franchise 10-13-2022 09:11 AM

Can Christian or Prince be that much worse than what OBJ is giving us now? You probably lose out on some run blocking but who the **** cares.

Chris Meck 10-13-2022 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16526683)
GB isn’t stupid. They’ll slap the first rd tender on that guy…and idk about you but I’m not giving the Packers a 1st rd pick for that

no, but I might offer that comp #3 or a #4 for him.

As an UDFA, they can keep him one more year and get nothing, or they can deal.

Nobody's going to give a #1.

He's their #3 OT, they like Kelly at RT.

Chris Meck 10-13-2022 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16526687)
Can Christian or Prince be that much worse than what OBJ is giving us now? You probably lose out on some run blocking but who the **** cares.

Well, they certainly could be.

I don't know.

O.city 10-13-2022 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16526665)
As long as you're willing to acknowledge this, I can agree.

That's what I said earlier and you bit my head off!

O.city 10-13-2022 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16526688)
no, but I might offer that comp #3 or a #4 for him.

As an UDFA, they can keep him one more year and get nothing, or they can deal.

Nobody's going to give a #1.

He's their #3 OT, they like Kelly at RT.

I don't believe that's how that works.

Chris Meck 10-13-2022 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16526699)
I don't believe that's how that works.

I'm pretty sure you can negotiate with the team that holds the players' rights.

I could be wrong.

But that's how I understand it.

So they could hold on to him, but he'd certainly leave in '24 for a chance to start somewhere. And as an UDFA I don't think they'd get anything much for him, expecially if he doesn't play at all in '23.

Or they could pick up a mid round pick and let him go.

That seems like a good move for them.

RunKC 10-13-2022 09:22 AM

Yeah GB isn’t doing that. The guy is a competent LT for pennies. Your starting LT just had a major injury. Keep the guy as long as you can at that price point and if he’s as good as you all claim they’ll get a 3rd rd comp for him when his contract is through and some team pays him.

If you want to offer a 1st or 2nd though they’d be fools to turn that down. But again we aren’t giving them that for the guy

O.city 10-13-2022 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16526703)
I'm pretty sure you can negotiate with the team that holds the players' rights.

I could be wrong.

But that's how I understand it.

So they could hold on to him, but he'd certainly leave in '24 for a chance to start somewhere. And as an UDFA I don't think they'd get anything much for him, expecially if he doesn't play at all in '23.

Or they could pick up a mid round pick and let him go.

That seems like a good move for them.

I'd guess they'd hold on to him with teh situation with Bahktiari being what it is and not wanting to leave themselves vulnerable.

Chris Meck 10-13-2022 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16526706)
Yeah GB isn’t doing that. The guy is a competent LT for pennies. Your starting LT just had a major injury. Keep the guy as long as you can at that price point and if he’s as good as you all claim they’ll get a 3rd rd comp for him when his contract is through and some team pays him.

If you want to offer a 1st or 2nd though they’d be fools to turn that down. But again we aren’t giving them that for the guy

He's unlikely to play in '23 is the whole thing.

You're not likely to get much in comp.

O.city 10-13-2022 09:26 AM

So you'd have to give up a pick and pay him. You'd probably have to pay him around what Noteboom got?

I don't think it's an option but it's ateast realistic.

So me being me....I reject.

duncan_idaho 10-13-2022 09:26 AM

Looking around draft sites, it seems like Jaelyn Duncan's stock IS shoooting up. Which is a bummer, because (1) I like his fit with KC (2) he's got a great last name.

But if his stock gets into Top 10 territory, it's time to take him off the board.

Zion Nelson is another T that really stands out to me. When you look at his scouting report, it does smack of a guy who can really outplay his draft position. He's newer to the position and needs to refine technique. He also is like 20 months removed from a playing weight of 240-250 pounds at a different position.

So you keep making him stronger in a pro weight program and you keep helping him refine his technique. Meanwhile, he's already strong in pass pro and has some of those dancing bear tendencies (already showing he can maintain his foot quickness despite packing on 40-50 pounds).

Chris Meck 10-13-2022 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16526708)
I'd guess they'd hold on to him with teh situation with Bahktiari being what it is and not wanting to leave themselves vulnerable.

Maybe, but moving Kelly from RT to LT was their second preference. Then he got hurt too, and so they played Nijman.

Now everyone's coming back healthy.

So it's not likely unless Bahktiari is unable to finish the season that Nijman will play.

You guys could be right, maybe they will just hold on to him one more year, but I don't think the comp for him leaving after '23 would be nearly as high as this offseason.


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