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tredadda 11-08-2022 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16587612)
McDuffie has played exactly one full game. The other guys are rookies. The defensive line is woefully understaffed.

To say he has the personnel is being disingenuous a bit.
Yup. What he has done with what he has been given is nothing short of amazing. They aren’t the 85 Bears, but they are playing quite well given the age of this defense and the regression of others on the line.

IowaHawkeyeChief 11-08-2022 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16585355)
There were plenty of times he had a pocket and dropped his head.

He wasn't on his game last night. But he's a great player so he kept shooting. That's fine and it's something the best will do.

But he was surprisingly shakey for most of the night considering he was responsible for 500 yards of offense. He missed a LOT of guys out there. That FG in OT came after he missed a walk-in TD to JJSS on a skinny post right before the 4th down conversion. He missed Hardman several times and he seemed to get into that 'wait wait wait' mode when it came to taking his underneath guys, especially his check downs.

He had a bulldog night; one of those nights where an elite pitcher doesn't have his stuff but battles through for 6 innings and 2 earned to give you a chance to win the game. But unlike a pitcher, the person he gave the chance to win was him.

But for all the credit Mahomes will get, it was the defense that saved our ass. That D was exceptional. The 2nd half+ shutout will get all the credit, but man, they were actually pretty damn good from from the 55 yard run by Henry onward.

Mahomes didn't have an A game at all. But it's worth giving him (and the team writ large) credit in that a C- game for him ended up being good enough to beat a quality opponent.

Throw the ball 60+ times and there are going to be pressures, but apart from a couple of pressures up the gut that Smith surrendered (man he's off), PM had decent time on several occasions and just wasn't seeing the field as well as he usually does.
^this^ Being at the game you could see some of the misses and some of the check downs that made more sense. I actually thought the line did well, when Mahomes was flushed, it usually wasn't early. He dropped back 74 times to pass and was sacked 4 times by the best pressure team in the conference, and most of those sacks were coverage sacks.

IowaHawkeyeChief 11-08-2022 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 16587353)
11ish.

What the hell happened to our screen game? IMHO, screens would have helped us a great deal against the Flaming Tacks. In fact, the Tacks have the kind of defense that would have a mental breakdown once you effectively attack them horizontally.

Since I blame him for all kinds of stuff, I blame EB.

FAX THE COMPLAINANT
They weren't blitzing much, so Screens are much tougher to execute.

IowaHawkeyeChief 11-08-2022 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16586099)
That play was designed for Smiths strengths and he lost the rep anyway. He has probably 80 lbs on Cunningham and got stood up. Gotta win that rep, man.
Easy reason, leverage. Smith has to get lower pulling around and was easy to stand up and move when the backer is able to get into his chest.

IowaHawkeyeChief 11-08-2022 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 16586150)
Without reading the replies yet...

Kelce was off last night. That is uncharacteristic and I don't expect we'll that again this year.
When should we expect to see some sacks from Karlaftis?
When should we expect to see some yards and touchdowns from Skyy?
Kelce wasn't the same after the catch where he hurdled the defender and go flipped onto his head/scorpianed... he seemed a little beat up after that...

Karlaftis had some great pressures, but can't quite get over the hump. I think he is going to have a 3 sack game when he does bust out.

Skyy has the tools but is thinking too much, IMO, I think he will continue to get better as he becomes more comfortable with the offense and it becomes muscle memory.

IowaHawkeyeChief 11-08-2022 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16586299)
Meh, the 30th pick is not going to get you an elite pass-rusher 99% of the time. Basically it was like a second round pick.

Obviously he needs to keep working on his skills, and let's remember that he didn't come into the league in NFL shape.

Next season, after a full NFL training program and diet program, I'm sure he'll be a lot better. I wouldn't bd surprised if we found out that he takes some kind of training for his flexibility as well during the offseason.

Now, if he comes into next season and he's no better than he is right now, I'll be concerned.
Karlaftis also made some good plays on rushes on Sunday. He seems to be getting better every week. I'm optimistic as well.

Lzen 11-08-2022 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 16585131)
Cris Collinsworth was praising Wylie last night multiple times.

That's some Bizarro World shit right there.
Wylie is an enigma. There are some plays where he actually looks like a competent NFL RT. But then there are plays where he looks like he doesn't belong. Too much inconsistency. I don't know if Niang will provide that but it's gotta be worth trying.

Lzen 11-08-2022 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16585106)
We need to overhaul our RB room in the offseason including getting a RB coach who was an actual RB not a WR. Hopefully Niang can play in the next week or so.
As much as I agree that could have something to do with it, you have to remember that our OC was a RB. It just doesn't make sense.

IowaHawkeyeChief 11-08-2022 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 16587741)
As much as I agree that could have something to do with it, you have to remember that our OC was a RB. It just doesn't make sense.
I think we need to add some under center gap blocking runs, and if we are successful, PA against it with quick crossing rights with a good chance of substantial YAC as the LB's step up.

Lzen 11-08-2022 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16585355)
There were plenty of times he had a pocket and dropped his head.

He wasn't on his game last night. But he's a great player so he kept shooting. That's fine and it's something the best will do.

But he was surprisingly shakey for most of the night considering he was responsible for 500 yards of offense. He missed a LOT of guys out there. That FG in OT came after he missed a walk-in TD to JJSS on a skinny post right before the 4th down conversion. He missed Hardman several times and he seemed to get into that 'wait wait wait' mode when it came to taking his underneath guys, especially his check downs.

He had a bulldog night; one of those nights where an elite pitcher doesn't have his stuff but battles through for 6 innings and 2 earned to give you a chance to win the game. But unlike a pitcher, the person he gave the chance to win was him.

But for all the credit Mahomes will get, it was the defense that saved our ass. That D was exceptional. The 2nd half+ shutout will get all the credit, but man, they were actually pretty damn good from from the 55 yard run by Henry onward.

Mahomes didn't have an A game at all. But it's worth giving him (and the team writ large) credit in that a C- game for him ended up being good enough to beat a quality opponent.

Throw the ball 60+ times and there are going to be pressures, but apart from a couple of pressures up the gut that Smith surrendered (man he's off), PM had decent time on several occasions and just wasn't seeing the field as well as he usually does.
This is all true. I kept saying Mahomes seemed a little off during the game. And I don't think you could see on TV but I noticed at least 4-5 times where Mahomes could have thrown to Hardman and most of them would have probably resulted in TDs. You see that stuff at the stadium that you don't get to see on the TV broadcast. I went back and watched the TV broadcast yesterday and I see that they did actually point out the one post that he should have thrown to Hardman for a TD. I don't recall seeing Mahomes that hesitant since the AFC Championship game.

DJ's left nut 11-08-2022 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 16587752)
This is all true. I kept saying Mahomes seemed a little off during the game. And I don't think you could see on TV but I noticed at least 4-5 times where Mahomes could have thrown to Hardman and most of them would have probably resulted in TDs. You see that stuff at the stadium that you don't get to see on the TV broadcast. I went back and watched the TV broadcast yesterday and I see that they did actually point out the one post that he should have thrown to Hardman for a TD. I don't recall seeing Mahomes that hesitant since the AFC Championship game.
Hardman was open all night - he really had a good game and largely went unrewarded for it.

Oh well. Off game, still a W.

This is a good thing.

O.city 11-08-2022 09:46 AM
It was a carbon copy of some games last year.

What point did he really become hesitant? Seemed to me it was the Kelce tip INT.

Nightfyre 11-08-2022 09:50 AM
RE: Karlaftis. Why does CP have WDE expectations for a SDE? I consistently see George doing great things on the field, even if he isn't sacking the passer. He still gets pressure, gets good contain, and plays the run well.

DJ's left nut 11-08-2022 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 16587774)
RE: Karlaftis. Why does CP have WDE expectations for a SDE? I consistently see George doing great things on the field, even if he isn't sacking the passer. He still gets pressure, gets good contain, and plays the run well.
Desperation.

We don't have a legit WDE to finish those plays off so we just kinda hope Karlaftis can be that guy.

We're a man short. Have been all season.

Ming the Merciless 11-08-2022 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16587337)
Just be prepared to eat a lot of crow when they prove you wrong. Again. :thumb:

"proved me wrong" by agreeing that we need to improve?



We just got gay and mcduffie back .. of course we will improve. What was I wrong about?


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i know the defense is improving and will be a top-10 unit by week 12 or so.
I had this expectation as well. I posted this in the beginning of the season. I think we agree here. But if they don't theres 1 guy to blame.


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