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Orlovsky on Toney (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=351340)

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17279573)

You can find 100 of them

That's sort of the point....you can find 100s of them. And you can see Toney do it several times in our game. You can also see the Ref not call it for 58 minutes.

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17278796)

Trying to say he wasn't blatantly offsides is moronic.

Saying it shouldn't have been called or wasn't called on others is a different argument.

That’s the point I have been trying to make

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17278861)

The ball is about 12-14" behind the line and Toney is about 4"-6" over the line.

How far do you think he is?

It matters where the nose of the football was at rest, before Creed picked it up, in relation to where Toney was aligned. That shrinks the margin substantially if there even is a margin because the centers tend to pick up the ball and move it back a bit. If Toney's foot is not beyond the nose of that football then he's not offsides. That's the argument people I think are trying to make, and it's valid.

Wasn't the ball set basically nose on the 49-yd line before Creed put his hand on it? maybe it was a little across. Thought I saw that in one of those clips the other day.

While not normally a conspiracy advocate........

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 17275352)

I feel like every person in the media is missing what really makes this call, and the outburst by Mahomes, so important.

You have people saying it was so blatant, the refs HAD to call it. But, last week the DPI against MVS that wasn't called was even more blatant, as the foul actually did directly impact the play, and you had the same people saying it was a judgment call. And that doesn't even take into account how not only was the DPI blatant and not called, but they reviewed the Mahomes late hit penalty, and STILL got it wrong, which is why they CHOSE to not throw the DPI flag. That is not human error, or human nature, that is corruption.

Last week, and now KT lining up illegally all day but not getting flagged until that play, are clear examples of officials purposely manipulating the game.

At the very, very least, those calls in those two back to back games, should have the need for integrity in officiating, and the need for full time officials, as lead topics on every talking head television show, radio show, or podcast.

If that official viewed Toney line up offsides multiple times and DIDN'T FLAG IT, then, at a crucial time in the game, immediately throws the flag, well considering who the official crew is, SURE SUSPICIOUS.

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Originally Posted by CadeMeister (Post 17280257)

Except that he threw the flag as soon as the ball was snapped.

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17279573)

You can find 100 of them

on any Sunday in the NFL. It's a ridiculous call to ever make.

KC needs to hire someone to tell the receivers to back up and to tell Taylor to move up. Every. Single. Play.

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Originally Posted by irafreak (Post 17280287)

Except that he threw the flag as soon as the ball was snapped.

It makes it even worse in my opinion , he lines up 6 plus times in the game , same spot , no one calls anything . Then with a minute left he calls it when he didn’t before ? Regardless of what happened after he still threw the flag when he did it so many times earlier .