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Pasta Little Brioni 11-01-2024 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17776170)
He’s very likely going to win a third MVP and mfs act like he’s garbage lol

He shouldn't have 2 MVPs...

Pasta Little Brioni 11-01-2024 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 17776177)
Terrible comparison really.

Not really

Pasta Little Brioni 11-01-2024 12:42 PM

Lamar is averaging a PATHETIC 16 PPG in his playoff career. That's not going to cut it, folks

Megatron96 11-01-2024 12:42 PM

So, we believe now that CJ Stroud is coming back down to earth? Looks that way to me, but I haven’t been watching him all that close

Chief Pagan 11-01-2024 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17776746)
Lamar is averaging a PATHETIC 16 PPG in his playoff career. That's not going to cut it, folks

So maybe the wear and tear of the regular season has reduced his playoff performance. And/or he doesn't seem to have the 'it' factor when the pressure is highest in the playoffs, especially if his team gets behind.

But I never thought he would physically last as long as he has. Yes, he hasn't finished every season. But he has finished most and is still a really effective runner.

And despite being called a RB, his passing has gotten decidedly better. Is it elite? No, but for people who say you can't improve accuracy, Lamar has gotten better.

Pretty unlikely to ever win a title.

Chief Pagan 11-01-2024 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17776747)
So, we believe now that CJ Stroud is coming back down to earth? Looks that way to me, but I haven’t been watching him all that close

Give him Nico Collins and Diggs back and a decent OL and I think he is still a top QB.

Megatron96 11-01-2024 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 17776758)
Give him Nico Collins and Diggs back and a decent OL and I think he is still a top QB.



So he’s closer to Purdy than Mahomes/allen.

wazu 11-01-2024 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17776747)
So, we believe now that CJ Stroud is coming back down to earth? Looks that way to me, but I haven’t been watching him all that close

Maybe some, but he's still good. Even last night I thought he looked better than his numbers. The Jets pass rush was getting after it.

TEX 11-01-2024 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17776747)
So, we believe now that CJ Stroud is coming back down to earth? Looks that way to me, but I haven’t been watching him all that close

Honestly, he looks like any QB that is playing behlnd a bad OL which has sustained injuries, and is playing without his #1 AND # 2 WR's. Add to the fact that he's very young, he doesn't have much experience to draw from.

DRM08 11-01-2024 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17776747)
So, we believe now that CJ Stroud is coming back down to earth? Looks that way to me, but I haven’t been watching him all that close

Injury stuff going on with Houston. But even before the injuries they were not exactly torching every defense with 40 points per game.

I think Bobby Slowik and CJ Stroud both had an advantage last year as brand new OC and brand new QB. But now the league has figured out some of their tendencies. Mix in some injuries and it gets much tougher for them.

TEX 11-01-2024 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17776775)
Injury stuff going on with Houston. But even before the injuries they were not exactly torching every defense with 40 points per game.

I think Bobby Slowik and CJ Stroud both had an advantage last year as brand new OC and brand new QB. But now the league has figured out some of their tendencies. Mix in some injuries and it gets much tougher for them.

Thats a great take. You can tell that Stroud is getting a little frustrated.

MahomesMagic 11-01-2024 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17776747)
So, we believe now that CJ Stroud is coming back down to earth? Looks that way to me, but I haven’t been watching him all that close

He's a very good young QB but his flaws are starting to show.


Like Josh Allen he can get his head messed up when you switch coverages, get his head in a blender.

RunKC 11-01-2024 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17776822)
He's a very good young QB but his flaws are starting to show.


Like Josh Allen he can get his head messed up when you switch coverages, get his head in a blender.

Their OL has really struggled this year. You could also tell Stroud looked worse when Collins got hurt. It was night and day difference. Then he lost Diggs.

Of course teams now have ample film on the kid and know him better so they are starting to exploit him but the losses on offense have really hurt him

Chief Pagan 11-01-2024 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17776762)
So he’s closer to Purdy than Mahomes/allen.

Well, yea.

But I doubt Purdy would be able to do even as well as CJ is doing behind that Texan OL and with those receivers.

Megatron96 11-01-2024 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 17776860)
Well, yea.

But I doubt Purdy would be able to do even as well as CJ is doing behind that Texan OL and with those receivers.

I probably would agree with that, or predict the same. I think Stroud is a much better athlete with a significantly better arm, so yeah, I'd bet $$$ that Purdy would have a much harder time as QB for HOU right now.

Of course, pretty much anybody would probably agree with that sentiment.


Just think it's interesting how certain QBs get those excuses while others don't.


At the end of the day, I do hope Stroud ends up being at least close to what all the talking heads have predicted for him. Definitely need more quality QB play in the league.


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