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BWillie 11-23-2024 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17820129)
He’s playing better than he did last year at the same point in time. He ended up having arguably the best postseason run by a quarterback in NFL history.

Yeah, I’m just fine with “sticking my head in the sand” on this one.
There is no way he's playing better this year. Last year we had the most drops in NFL history since like 2017. They catch those it looks alot different last year during the regular season.

KC_Connection 11-23-2024 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17820151)
There is no way he's playing better this year. Last year we had the most drops in NFL history since like 2017. They catch those it looks alot different last year during the regular season.
QBR takes the drops into account. He is playing better than last year from an efficiency perspective. The counting numbers just aren’t there because of the low possession-run based offense.

BWillie 11-23-2024 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17820154)
QBR takes the drops into account. He is playing better than last year from an efficiency perspective. The counting numbers just aren’t there because of the low possession-run based offense.
Please advise exactly how QBR is calculated.

TheGuardian 11-23-2024 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17820096)
Bud, this is his worst QBR as a starter (not counting 2017) with the exception of the 2021 season. And starting with Succ%, just run straight across those stats; he's either worst of his career, or 2nd to worst in every statistical category.

Succ%-2nd to worst,
Lng (which I could care less)-worst
Y/A-tied worst
AY/A-WORST
Y/C-worst
Y/G-worst
Passer Rate-worst
QBR-2nd worst
NY/A-WORST
ANY/A-worst

And, he's on pace to get sacked more this season than in any other season of his career. Also his %/games with an INT makes him 39th @80%.

His overall play is a problem. And it's not just one thing. He needs to get his shit back together over the next few weeks.
Pats aggressiveness rating, eg throwing into tight coverage, is also worst of his career.

Megatron96 11-23-2024 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17820149)
A significantly better QBR.

It’s better than whining about a QB not throwing for big passing numbers on a low possession running team without any context whatsoever. Because I can’t think of anything I could give a shit about less.


"Context"?ROFL

Wtf are you talking about, cuz? I think you need to look up the meaning of that word.

KC_Connection 11-23-2024 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17820171)
Please advise exactly how QBR is calculated.
https://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/...terback-rating

KC_Connection 11-23-2024 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17820175)
"Context"?ROFL

Wtf are you talking about, cuz? I think you need to look up the meaning of that word.
Yes, context.

KC_Connection 11-23-2024 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17820174)
Pats aggressiveness rating, eg throwing into tight coverage, is also worst of his career.
Maybe we should look to trade him for Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson. They have the guts we need in the regular season.

BWillie 11-23-2024 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17820176)
You did not advise.

KC_Connection 11-23-2024 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17820185)
You did not advise.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...oved-qb-rating

I did. And have done so again.

mr. tegu 11-23-2024 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17819576)
To recap, we’ve now gone from calling it ridiculous and a terrible take not based in QBR to “hardly significant”.

Josh Allen has been a better regular season QB than Patrick Mahomes in QBR since the 2020 season. He’s been a significantly better regular season QB than him over the past two seasons in particular. I’ll ask again, does that mean you’re taking him over Mahomes this postseason? And if not, why not?

It’s a terrible take because you give one stat they are essentially equal in, even though Mahomes beats him in said stat 3 of 4 times in full seasons, and basically everything else, whether in a 5 season average or season by season basis, Mahomes is better in. Your question is especially stupid because I’m literally here saying Mahomes is better in the post season AND regular season.

Me: Mahomes is the best QB in the last five years in the regular season, and what makes him so great is he continues that level in the post season better than anyone, while managing the game perfectly.

You: Allen is better in the regular season. BuT I bEt YoU wOuLd tAkE MaHoMeS oVeR AlLeN!

Megatron96 11-23-2024 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17820176)


Lol, please show the formula for calculating QBR, not some broad definition without specifics. Thanks.

mr. tegu 11-23-2024 06:18 PM
Seth Keysor sees what we see...
 
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17819885)
Traitors, losers and cowards.

Says the guy who says Allen is better in the regular season since 2020 despite all the stats and wins (besides rushing yards) being in Mahomes favor. I’m sure you totally would have said this after the 2023 Super Bowl victory.

KC_Connection 11-23-2024 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17820198)
It’s a terrible take because you give one stat they are essentially equal in, even though Mahomes beats him in said stat 3 of 4 times in full seasons, and basically everything else, whether in a 5 season average or season by season basis, Mahomes is better in. Your question is especially stupid because I’m literally here saying Mahomes is better in the post season AND regular season.
Again, it wasn’t a take. Josh Allen has a better QBR than Patrick Mahomes in the regular season since 2020. You can try to spin that as many times and in as many ways as you want but it won’t change that fact.

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Me: Mahomes is the best QB in the last five years in the regular season, and what makes him so great is he continues that level in the post season better than anyone, while managing the game perfectly.
He isn’t and it hasn’t even been close the last two seasons. I’ll ask again, though, who are you taking come playoff time between the two despite that? And if it is Mahomes, why?

KC_Connection 11-23-2024 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17820205)
Says the guy who says Allen is better in the regular season since 2020 despite all the stats and wins (besides rushing yards) being in Mahomes favor.
Josh Allen has been the better regular season QB since 2020, yes. That is heavily weighted by Mahomes’ last two seasons being much worse than Allen’s but it again doesn’t change that fact.

Guess who I’m still taking to manage a playoff game in a few months though?


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