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TambaBerry 04-22-2025 09:28 PM

I would like an Edge, DT, WR, a tackle only if one of the top that didn't have a knee injury falls to us or in range of us

kccrow 04-22-2025 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18038167)
You know how much I love Henderson -- I think I may have been first on him 'round here (you not withstanding as an Ohio State guy).

He's been my RB2 in the draft, at least for the Chiefs, the entire time.

But I just can't. I can't get there in the 1st round. It's dogmatic, I know. I just can't talk myself into it.

Have I taught you nothing by taking Jahmyr Gibbs in the CP mock 2 years ago?

:P

A 2,000-yard, 20 TD RB might not be what Henderson becomes, but he certainly might be a guy that can get you 1500-1700 regularly.

DJ's left nut 04-22-2025 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18038175)
Have I taught you nothing by taking Jahmyr Gibbs in the CP mock 2 years ago?

:P

A 2,000-yard, 20 TD RB might not be what Henderson becomes, but he certainly might be a guy that can get you 1500-1700 regularly.

Well you shouldn't have spent so damn much time talking me into Trevor Etienne!

kccrow 04-23-2025 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18038179)
Well you shouldn't have spent so damn much time talking me into Trevor Etienne!

LOL. I really like Etienne a lot. I think he has some serious potential in a similar role.

duncan_idaho 04-23-2025 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18038283)
LOL. I really like Etienne a lot. I think he has some serious potential in a similar role.


Just less of a true 3-down guy, right? You’d need to pair him with someone who can help shoulder the load, probably a less versatile receiving back with some umph for short-yardage, and make the offense a little more predictable based on personnel.

Henderson would present the opportunity to unlock the offense on all 3 downs…

OnTheWarpath15 04-23-2025 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18038175)
Have I taught you nothing by taking Jahmyr Gibbs in the CP mock 2 years ago?

:P

A 2,000-yard, 20 TD RB might not be what Henderson becomes, but he certainly might be a guy that can get you 1500-1700 regularly.

Felt a little stuck at 95 but...sheesh.

https://i.ibb.co/g02N6j1/Screenshot-...7-34-06-AM.png

duncan_idaho 04-23-2025 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 18038292)
Felt a little stuck at 95 but...sheesh.

https://i.ibb.co/g02N6j1/Screenshot-...7-34-06-AM.png

I like this.

I find myself usually taking a trade down or making one, on this sim engine, at one of 63 or 66 and sometimes again at 95.

Usually can pick up another pick in the 100s and a nice pick in the future with that combo.

kccrow 04-23-2025 08:43 AM

Me thinks you guys are WAY too high on Norman-Lott. Probably late 3rd to 4th guy. Definitely not a 2nd rounder IMHO.

OnTheWarpath15 04-23-2025 08:46 AM

One thing about this sim - it doesn't seem to matter whether the slider is set to predictable or chaotic - I have pretty much the same options every time.

duncan_idaho 04-23-2025 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18038444)
Me thinks you guys are WAY too high on Norman-Lott. Probably late 3rd to 4th guy. Definitely not a 2nd rounder IMHO.

That's totally fair. His size limitations probably cap his ceiling, right?

kccrow 04-23-2025 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 18038287)
Just less of a true 3-down guy, right? You’d need to pair him with someone who can help shoulder the load, probably a less versatile receiving back with some umph for short-yardage, and make the offense a little more predictable based on personnel.

Henderson would present the opportunity to unlock the offense on all 3 downs…

Etienne isn't much smaller than Henderson, but I don't know how much pounding he can do on first and second down. Henderson can't either, but I believe he can shoulder more of that load than Etienne. Henderson is a better player in all facets and has more experience than Etienne.

kccrow 04-23-2025 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 18038496)
That's totally fair. His size limitations probably cap his ceiling, right?

Size/length to be an every-down player, and his lack of experience is probably a hindrance. Ty Hamilton is a very similar player in the same range.

DJ's left nut 04-23-2025 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18038283)
LOL. I really like Etienne a lot. I think he has some serious potential in a similar role.

So let's game it.

I think we have to take Nolen and Harmon out of the equation for the sake of discussion, because I believe we are both in the camp that "In the unlikely event either of them fall to 31, you take him without blinking" right?

So we're really talking WR vs. RB.

Option A) Henderson and Dike/Lane
Option B) Burden and Etienne

I think I far prefer B.

And I know that's not an entirely fair exercise because you could obviously go WR in round 2 and get Noel, but the sort of shell gaming required for that makes a real comparison pretty tough.

The only real way to do it is to try the ceteris paribus game, take the pick previously used on a RB on a WR and the pick previously used on a WR on a RB.

Otherwise you're just playing around with the same argument I started with -- notably that I think the drafts tend to go a little better on balance when I attack the WR position in R1 with Burden or Egbuka.

DJ's left nut 04-23-2025 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 18038292)
Felt a little stuck at 95 but...sheesh.

https://i.ibb.co/g02N6j1/Screenshot-...7-34-06-AM.png

I kinda like Parrish in that range. My concern is ultimately redundancy. He's a little undersized; makes me wonder if he can really operate on the boundary. McDuffie can while being a little shorter than ideal, but he's also just an awesome player.

Parrish is a hell of an athlete and can probably be a very good NCB...but that does take some of the starch out of the value of McDuffie locking down that slot himself. And puts him back out to boundary where he's merely very good instead of elite.

I think what I might prefer do is take Darien Porter at 63 instead of Burch, then Royals, then backfill with Kennard, Gillotte or Oladejo at 95.

Porter fascinates the hell out of me.

Cooter Bailey 04-23-2025 03:00 PM

31
Malaki Starks
S | Georgia
B+
63
Tre Harris
WR | Mississippi
B+
73
Princely Umanmielen
EDGE | Mississippi
A+
95
Shemar Turner
DL | Texas A&M
A+
108
Anthony Belton
OT | NC State
A+
110
Dylan Sampson
RB | Tennessee
A+
133
Jamaree Caldwell
DL | Oregon
B+
213
Dont'e Thornton
WR | Tennessee
C+
226
Cam Jackson
DL | Florida
B+
251
Tommi Hill
CB | Nebraska
A+
257
Luke Lachey
TE | Iowa


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