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Deberg_1990 05-14-2004 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bunnytrdr
This, from a guy who cannot even shoot free throws. We know what kind of skill it takes to throw down dunk shots when you are 7'2 400 pound godzilla.


hahaha...seriously....you would think that after what? 11 or 12 years in the league...dude could hire someone like an ex player or coach to show him how to hold the ball right and let it roll out of his hands instead of trying to shotput it to the basket off his fingertips....amazing.

BIG_DADDY 05-14-2004 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Dan
BULLCRAP! He was calling it as he saw it which was absolutely true. Both shots were incredibly lucky. Hell, even Duncan said after the game that he didn't know if it would go in or if it had. Both were lucky, both were great..Just leave it at that. Good god, going after Shaq's character for that comment. ridiculous

He just hates the team and everyone on it, what else are you going to say? We need to close out in LA now. I don't think any other team has a very good chance against the Lakers if we win this series. To me there is only one series after this. The East has a snowballs chance in hell of beating the Lakers and I think I am being generous saying that.

ArrowheadHawk 05-14-2004 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY
The East has a snowballs chance in hell of beating the Lakers and I think I am being generous saying that.

THats what everyone thought about the Afc until the broncos broke the NFC winning streak. The East has a legitamate shot.

Calcountry 05-14-2004 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990
hahaha...seriously....you would think that after what? 11 or 12 years in the league...dude could hire someone like an ex player or coach to show him how to hold the ball right and let it roll out of his hands instead of trying to shotput it to the basket off his fingertips....amazing.

Well, when all you are use to doing is sticking that huge ass of his into other peoples guts to move em off and throwing down BB's with force, what do you expect.

I have heard Rick Berry proclaim on TV, that if he would just follow one of his principles, he could make him a 70% FT shooter, and that would open up his game from all the Hack a Shaq that he endures now.

Deberg_1990 05-14-2004 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bunnytrdr
Well, when all you are use to doing is sticking that huge ass of his into other peoples guts to move em off and throwing down BB's with force, what do you expect.

I have heard Rick Berry proclaim on TV, that if he would just follow one of his principles, he could make him a 70% FT shooter, and that would open up his game from all the Hack a Shaq that he endures now.

Exactly!! So what does that tell you? He is lazy. He knows that he can get by on just using his big butt to move people around...when he could strive to become even better...but he doesnt care...

TEX 05-14-2004 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY
Yea I am sure you are sweating about now. ROFL

That win was SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!! :)

Actually it's been great talking to you about the series in this thread. :thumb:

I am still high from that win last night. I was drinking a bit too much and was yelling LLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAKKKKKKKKKKKKKEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRSSSSS!!! out my front and back doors for the next 30 minutes following that shot by Fisher. My neighbors probably think I am a drunk psycho or something. Then the Sharks win too. It was an awesome night. I was late by an hour and a half getting to work today. It's all good though, I still gotta smile on my face. :)

No, not sweating really. For me, I'll just pick another team to BEAT L.A. if the Spurs can't. I really don't care who just as long as the LAKERS LOSE. :thumb:

Really though - I must admit I did not give the Lakers much of a chance against the Spurs in the series. Congrats on sticking with YOUR team (even though they $UCK!) ;)

Chief Faithful 05-14-2004 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990
Oh please....shut up with your complaining......You know damn well if the shoe was on the other foot...and the Spurs had won with .04 seconds left in the game...The Lakers would have done the same thing! Personally, both of those shots were great..including Fishers....ill give it up to them. To be honest..the Spurs are just playing sour grapes complaining about the clock. But dont try and take the Laker Moral high ground by implying that they would not have done the same thing. Any NBA team would complain.

It will be interesting to see how the protest goes. If I'm not mistaken a rule was established saying it takes a minimum of 0.7 seconds to catch, turn and shoot. I also thought the ruling states it takes 0.4 seconds to catch and shoot while in the air. The basis of the protest is the Lakers where given more then 0.4 seconds to get the shot off because the clock started late.

Either way, I would be surprised if they win the protest.

Deberg_1990 05-14-2004 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful
It will be interesting to see how the protest goes. If I'm not mistaken a rule was established saying it takes a minimum of 0.7 seconds to catch, turn and shoot. I also thought the ruling states it takes 0.4 seconds to catch and shoot while in the air. The basis of the protest is the Lakers where given more then 0.4 seconds to get the shot off because the clock started late.

Either way, I would be surprised if they win the protest.

They wont win...its pretty stupid really.....you have to think....it takes a slipt second for the ref to react to seeing the ball hit the guys hands....it takes another split second for im to hit the button to start the clock.....of course there will be a delay! There ALWAYS will be due to the human element involved....the protest is stupid.

Calcountry 05-14-2004 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990
Exactly!! So what does that tell you? He is lazy. He knows that he can get by on just using his big butt to move people around...when he could strive to become even better...but he doesnt care...

I am sure that the Refs are instructed not to foul out the likes of a Jordan(I know he is retired but I am making a point), Kobe, Shap, IOW marqee players get the close ones. Just like Barry Bonds gets about 4 or 5 strikes.

BIG_DADDY 05-14-2004 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful
It will be interesting to see how the protest goes. If I'm not mistaken a rule was established saying it takes a minimum of 0.7 seconds to catch, turn and shoot. I also thought the ruling states it takes 0.4 seconds to catch and shoot while in the air. The basis of the protest is the Lakers where given more then 0.4 seconds to get the shot off because the clock started late.

Either way, I would be surprised if they win the protest.


NBA Denies Sours' Protest
May 14, 1:57 PM (ET) Email this Story

NEW YORK (AP) - The NBA denied the San Antonio Spurs' protest of Game 5 of the Western Conference semifinals, which ended with a buzzer-beating shot by Derek Fisher of the Los Angeles Lakers.
The Spurs contended the clock did not start quickly enough after Fisher caught an inbounds pass with 0.4 seconds remaining. Fisher made 18-foot turnaround to give the Lakers a 74-73 victory on Thursday night in San Antonio.

The protest was denied Friday by NBA commissioner David Stern. The league said a video tape review showed the game clock "started appropriately" and confirmed the determination of the referees, using instant replay, that the shot was released before time expired.

One of the three officials triggers the start with a wireless device on his belt. A neutral scorekeeper does, too, as a backup.

"I think it definitely started late," San Antonio coach Gregg Popovich said after the game.


Fisher's shot came after Tim Duncan made an off-balance basket from the top of the key to give the Spurs the lead with 0.4 seconds left.

After three timeouts, Gary Payton was ready to pass to Shaquille O'Neal or Kobe Bryant. The Spurs had them covered, leaving Fisher free. He caught the ball, sank the shot over Manu Ginobili, then ran off the court in celebration.

"I just wanted to get out of there and not give them an opportunity to think that we didn't believe it went in," Fisher said.

The Lakers lead the series 3-2, with Game 6 in Los Angeles on Saturday.

Calcountry 05-14-2004 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk
THats what everyone thought about the Afc until the broncos broke the NFC winning streak. The East has a legitamate shot.

The East sucks. All you got over there is Reggie Miller.

The Nets playground BB don't work when there is a ref and a team that can shoot.

Coogs 05-14-2004 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful
It will be interesting to see how the protest goes. If I'm not mistaken a rule was established saying it takes a minimum of 0.7 seconds to catch, turn and shoot. I also thought the ruling states it takes 0.4 seconds to catch and shoot while in the air. The basis of the protest is the Lakers where given more then 0.4 seconds to get the shot off because the clock started late.

Either way, I would be surprised if they win the protest.

There is also a bit of human reaction time that needs to be allowed for. And even at that, I have seen the play (saw it live too) over, and over, and over, and it does not appear there was any gross delay in the official starting the clock. It appeared to be in motion right after DF caught the ball, which is the way the rule works.

BIG_DADDY 05-14-2004 12:22 PM

Anybody find that picture of the final shot by Fisher out there somewhere?

Deberg_1990 05-14-2004 12:24 PM

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Anybody find that picture of the final shot by Fisher out there somewhere?

Yeah..i found it right here Big Daddy!

ArrowheadHawk 05-14-2004 12:31 PM

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unfortunatly yes!


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