Was this before or after they gave up 377 yards through the air, and 14 points in 5 minutes in the biggest quarter of their lives?

Its funny. I can't find any.of your mock drafts anywhere? Mecca, where did you post your mock draft?
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They were playing against the second best team in the league and they stopped them when it counted.

Can we please just close this ****ing board down for two days and fumigate to get rid of all these ****ing moron cockroaches? :banghead:

Oh. So now when the other team gets the ball with 25 seconds left needing to go 80 yards and they don't, you get credited as "stopping" them?

So, the 80 and 65 yard drives that Arizona had directly preceding this, where they actually had time, and where Pitt failed miserably, don't count as them being unable to stop them?

LMAO

It's like beating up a handicapped kid.

How about the first three quarters they shut them down, do they get credit for that. They gave up two good drives in the 4th quarter. The Cardinals had PLENTY of time, they COULDNT do it.

Still looking for any of your mock drafts. Mecca? I thought this was your "thing"

Gutless wonders slam a guy who posts one but don't have the chops to offer your own and open yourself up to crap.

Revealed.
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It's February dumbass, the combine isn't even over.

Everyone doing a mock now will change it 20 times the draft is still 2 months out.

Certified Bucket of Warm Piss.

Look at this!
Look at how stupid you are!

ROFL Pioli: "Alright boys, hit every grocery store from here to Wichita; I wanna' build a WINNER"!

LMAO:LOL:

Me too! "House of Derrick Thomas" my ass, give me Steve DeBerg all ****ing day long!

Look at this!
Look at how stupid you are again!

Good one.

How do you know the guy you slammed mock won't change 19 times?

Seems to me I've seen lots of mocks out there.
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What the **** is this?! Speak the King's English mother****er; your anal vibrator-in-mouth gibberish does not translate!

Oh heavens I skipped one word. But when you are getting owned you use the old fallback. Grammar!!!!

Ooohhh. Good one.

Still waiting for your genius mock draft ya fraud
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Mother****er; you couldn't own a pack of Juicy Fruit gum, much less me.

That's what you got left?

You guys stepped into it so bad when you went after that mock draft so hard.

You opened yourself up to being so revealed as such frauds and dumbasses to the entire board because none of you can put together a mock yourself.

Ladies and gentleman, the we must draft a qb no matter what bully brigade are totally owned on this.

I do this for the respectful and honorable 85 percent out there.
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Cricket-chirp,cricket-chirp,cricket-chirp etc.

Try getting some rest for tomorrow. Maybe your own mock draft will come to you easier then.
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When did I ever imply that I would be creating a mock draft for you to peruse or critique?

I don't need to; you "mock the draft" every time you open your mouth.

:whackit:

How does one gain access to the arcade/casino areas in the site? For that matter, what about the ability to create a thread and post images?

Keep posting, you have to a certain amount of posts. Its to contain pRon and spam.

Oh Yes!

A Lioning he shall go,
A Lioning he shall go,
Bend down and pucker to my cornhole,
A Lioning he shall go!

SUCK IT!

I'm not sure what that second sentence was suppose to read, but do you or anyone know what those numbers are? I don't intend on slinging garbage all over to reach it, just curious when I might expect that sort of stuff.

pRon is ChiefsPlanet lingo for porn.

ROFL "SUCK IT!" - have to admit, that made me laugh and actually for some reason recall days of 1997 when I was watching the NWO reign over the WCW, but only after Seinfeld.

That whole "dinner with the Lions" thing may prove to be pretty transparent. I don't believe they did that with anyone else nearly as publicly....this could be some solidification to them considering Cassel too...?

You've all the freedom in the world with the #1 overall pick though, I wonder if they'll make their selection early like with Long last year?

Ya, I've read that here and there....do you mean goin into the Casino and Arcade stuff will help me crap up the CPU with electric STDs?

If Detroit really wants to rebound in to "at least someone will pay some green to check us out" respectability at home, Curry and Cassel would be a great way to do it.
From what I understand, they already have a good young receiver for Cassel, and Curry with Ernie Sims could be a strong draw as well.

It's a good instant improvement. The Chiefs need to go a different way, and I believe they're going to do it. I still believe to this day that the only reason we have Pioli( and Haley to a lesser degree )is because the Chiefs are the cleanest slate in the NFL. If you wanted to build YOUR TEAM without the hassle of in-place vets and a lot of headaches and drama, there was only one real choice; Kansas City.

It's a "from the top on down" build, and the next logical "hire" is a Quarterback.
If Curry goes to Detroit, it's a huge advantage to us because we get to really evaluate both QB candidates, and make a true choice.

And I've said it a million times; I will truly be happy with either guy.

Way to bring it, sir! It worked for the Texans, and the Lions should at LEAST contemplate the idea of it.

I don't know, why didn't Matt Ryan throw last year?

:thumb: This is all good news....of the rumor variety sort of, but good news nonetheless!!! And with what little buzz that has made its way out, it sounds like they love Curry, and could definitely use Cassel exactly as you've advertised above.

I'm currently working on a quick mock draft - partly so that you guys can pick it apart, but this really changes my outlook for the entire draft, and honestly, it only gets better for KC....I'd LOVE it if this works out...

MAKE IT SO DETROIT!!! MAKE IT SO!!!

Thank you. Here's the thing with KC:

We haven't had the experience, in the entire history of the KC Chiefs, of seeing this franchise run the way that Scott Pioli has said that he will run it. After the Chiefs SB win back in the day, everything started going down, and kept going down until Carl and Marty arrived.

They brought respectability back to the franchise, but a lot of patchwork-type decisions and drafting, contract negotiations shot to hell, and then just general apathy landed us where we are now.
What I'm trying to say is, it's not so much about wins and losses at this point; it's about dissecting every element of the franchise, and starting down the road to success using proven methods that yield results.

When Pioli says "I build teams", I hear "I'm going to find the best matches between positions that rely on each other( both technically and mindset-wise ), and slowly bring that team together until they would kill and die for each other".

And that takes time.

But man, when that kind of groundwork is laid and comes to fruition?
Opponent better look out, and step the **** BACK.

Basically, we're all virgins. Pioli is gonna bust our hymen.

40+ year-old virgins at this point( in terms of true success since the days of Stram, anyhow )!

It's an exciting time and good things are going to happen, but not overnight.

That's half the fun, though, DCS. Seeing the little good things happening over and over and over again.

Hopefully they all add up to one BIG good thing.

It's not the destination, it's the journey.

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I agree. What I'm looking so forward to is that first momentum shift where the rest of the NFL looks to KC and says "Uh Oh".
You're about 10 years younger than me, and though you got your groove on in school during Vermeil, I can't begin to describe what it was like to be with other fans in a bar or at the game when DT was tearing shit up; it was just electric.
And the very thought that we could surpass even that and achieve a Greatness For The Ages....I can't even wrap my head around that at this point.

Kansas City is a great place. I think a lot of people with not much sense of history think it's just another Toledo or Dayton in the mid west. It's not. A lot of greatness and worldly influences have converged there, and been created there.

I'm ready for the Chiefs to raise the bar on an epic scale, and attain true immortality alongside the other great people and institutions that have come from the place I call Home.

Print It!

This is so uplifting and inspirational... I like it

I think this guy knocked on my door once!

Utah defensive end Kruger knows his way around KC
By RANDY COVITZ
The Kansas City Star


INDIANAPOLIS | If the Chiefs draft Utah defensive end Paul Kruger, he won’t need a GPS to get around Kansas City.

Kruger, considered one of the most-promising pass rushers in the draft, spent his Mormon mission in Kansas City during 2005-06 before resuming his career at Utah, where he helped the Utes to an undefeated season last year.

Why, of all places, Kansas City?

“You’re just issued a call from the church,” Kruger said. “So you turn in your papers, and they say this is where we need you. You don’t have too much say in where you go. So why Kansas City for me? I don’t know, but I loved it there. It was an awesome place to serve.

“Usually you hear about guys going to Rome or India or South America … and when they said, Kansas City, I asked ‘Where in the world is that?’ ”

Kruger soon found out. His territory ranged as far west as Manhattan and as far east as Odessa, and he found himself doing everything from staging fund-raisers, to serving elderly people, arranging child care and transportation for single parents and teaching the gospel.

“I served a lot in Kansas,” said Kruger, a 6-foot-5, 263-pounder. “They were just down-to-earth, humble people. I also served right in the heart of Kansas City. So you were able to see a lot of different backgrounds and ethnicities. You’re out there serving people and seeing peoples’ lives change on your efforts.

“You’re there to serve people, whether their lawn needs to be mowed, or their spirits need to be lifted, we’re there to lift them up.”

While in Kansas City, he befriended Lynn Stiles, then the Chiefs’ vice president of football operations and also a Utah alum and fellow member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

“He was a very impressive young man, a big guy … and he had a strong testimony of the church,” Stiles said. “He’d come over for dinner, and we’d get into talking football.”

Though Stiles is no longer affiliated with the Chiefs, he has stayed in contact with Kruger and his family and even recommended that Kruger, just a third-year sophomore, return for another year of college.

But Kruger, 23, believed this was the time to come out. Kruger had 7 1/2 sacks for the Utes last season and three as a freshman, even though he has been a defensive end for just two seasons.

Kruger was a four-year starter at quarterback in high school and was recruited to Utah as a tight end by former Utes coach Urban Meyer, who is now at Florida. Kruger’s relentless style has been compared to former Chiefs’ defensive end Jared Allen, and he is most comfortable playing the right end in a 4-3 front.

“It was an easier transition than people would assume,” Kruger said. “Just the fact I was tall and big and athletic. Once I mentally decided this is what I’m doing, it was pretty soon.”

After all, Kruger has overcome a lot more than a position change. He has survived two life-threatening incidents.

When he was 13, Kruger was in a jeep accident in the mountains, where the vehicle flipped, rolled over him and smashed his spleen and a kidney. Both organs had to be removed, and Kruger plays with a pad that wraps around his abdomen to protect his remaining kidney.

“It’s something I’m used to, something I’ve dealt with since junior high,” he said. “The main thing from a medical standpoint is just keeping my diet and hydration regulated.”

That was nothing compared to what happened on Jan. 19, 2008. Kruger, trying to play peacemaker in a road-rage incident, was stabbed in the stomach, something he didn’t realize until he returned to the car.

Fifty staples were required to close the wound, and while doctors operated for four hours, removing his bowel and intestines to check for damage, they discovered a cracked rib, nicked artery and collapsed lung.

Kruger missed all of spring football and began lifting weights in June. He regained the 10 pounds he lost and was one of the primary contributors to Utah’s going 13-0 and finishing No. 2 in the nation last year.

“I learned a lot from that, that life is short,” Kruger said of the stabbing, in which his younger brother, Dave, also a Utah football player, was punched in the face with brass knuckles.

“Especially being a football player, you kind of think the world revolves around you. That mind-set is definitely cut short once you have something like that. You realize you always want to watch out where you are, who you’re around, what kind of setting you’re in.

“Every day I think about you’re lucky to be alive. It’s terrible to be in situations like that, but after you recover from them, you understand a lot of things about life and are very grateful to be in the situation you’re in.”

The Donk fans will wail and gnash their teeth in lamentation.

I'm getting verklempt...

Thank you.

Look, when the Chiefs are rolling and there's true greatness on the field, you will NEVER find a bigger Homer than me. I will raise hell, bust heads, and all points in between.

I just want that next level for this franchise, you know? Watching all the bad cards unfold in 97' and then losing Derrick shortly thereafter was very hurtful for me. I think it was a soul-killer for a LOT of people. And that's why a good portion of us on this board are so adamant about no shortcuts and no bullshit; we DON'T want to go through that again.

I like Sean Smith from Utah more than I like Kruger but that's another topic.

Kruger has really short arms. Seems like a high motor, character guy, but he'd get eaten alive by left tackles.

So, are you guys going to freak out if the Chiefs dont take a QB in the first round? Serious question.
Is the rebuild wildly off track in your opinions?

It would be illogical as all hell, but my team is still my team. I'm more upset about this piss-poor, mass-hire of low-grade coaching talent than anything else.

Wow. That was really a great post. I mean it.

I'm excited for kansas city too

Its already a great football town and I can't wait to see what its like with a rising team.

Look, I'm a sucker for the underdog and I get a little riled when I think people are getting beat up on who just want to talk football

If I came across as arrogant I apologize to you guys. I'm just very excited for the chiefs and what pioli will bring

If I'm argumentitive its not you, its THAT BITCH that I'm so angry about

Anyways maybe we can start over

Btw. Who the **** is Laz??
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I am encouraged by Pioli's record of late round QBs and therfore think it would be wise to take a defender in round one. That doesnt seem to be a popular opinion around here but I dont like either QB at the top.
If we still had a decent vet QB with a year or two left, I would be more excited about Stafford/Sanchez coming to the Chiefs. A junior QB needs more time and a good mentor to help him along. We dont have that.
A lot can happen in a year and maybe next year some of the QBs who will be seniors, step up.

Gray didn't get much snap time, and I'd be very interested in watching him play a couple of drives at least.

Huard, Martin and Croyle should be kicked to the curb. I know some people really like Damon, but I'd like to see a more solid vet in the lineup, maybe someone who's won more than 4 or 5 games?
But not some over priced guy like McNabb.

Awww Jeez, someone who doesnt want a QB in round one? Why doesnt everyone think the same!

You know there is this little thing called free agency. We can get a vet QB.

Even if KC took Sanchez at #3, I wouldn't be completely shocked if they took a bigger project in the 7th round as a backup plan for 3 years down the road. My bet is the kid from Buffalo, I think his name is Willy. Hopefully Dick Curl can come back so I get to hear Madden talk about Dick Curl playing with his Willy on the sideline.

I agree. Maybe someone like Garcia?

Yes and I would feel a lot better about these two QBs if we signed a good vet to mentor.

LMAO

If the price is right, sure.

Word.

That may be the best idea. If they are sold on sanchez upside draft him but bring in a garcia to be deberg to sanchez' elway
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Sounds like someone is suggesting that we bring somebody in for shower and rope time with the young guys... ROFL

T.O. Is that you? :)
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He's not long term solution but the chiefs haven't had a bonafide starting nfl qb like garcia since green was knocked out in the season opener in 2006. They would have won at least 6 games last year with garcia. Let him get beat up and stabilize things and let sanchez sit back and learn the right way
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I'm actually not totally against that...surprisingly. NOT a Garcia "fan", but adequate while you nurse an untested QB is not a horrible idea. That said, won't happen.

Ok. Here it comes......In New England......

In new england the patriots were awful when parcells took over 2-14. They drafted bledsoe but they also brought in journeyman scott secules. Secules got the crap kicked out of him early as bledsoe got his feet wet slowly.

Even if its thigpen at first don't let the rookies confidence and body get destroyed early
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What would be good about winning 6 games?

Its progress from 2 and it gives time for other pieces to fall into place while the rookie sits a bit and learns

To be clear. I'd only want them to do this if they draft who they feel is a legit future qb star
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He means last year.

6 last year would have meant jack shit.

Once we get our QB in this draft, however, my stance will change on this.

Oh. Well I agree. It wouldn't be good to bring in a garcia to be a huard just to win 6. When I said the 6 I meant to say that's how much a real qb could have made last year.

So no don't sign him to be THE qb. Just as a mentor and stop gap. A "crash davis" from bull durham type. And sanchez can be "Nuke".
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You wouldn't have thread after thread about how NOBODY picks a cover linebacker #3?

It looks to me like there are just as many threads touting Curry as there are knocking him, as if that has anything to do with anything. I don't care to pick up some old has been QB just to win a few more games.

That isnt the purpose though. Garcia is a probowl QB, he would be brought in to mentor a new QB, one that came out as a junior. I am not a Garcia fan either but he would be great in this scenario. If we dont draft one of these two QBs, then I wouldnt want Garcia.
No matter what we do, I think we are going to win a few more games.

Let's be very clear about this. Bringing in a vet-mentor is something we do AFTER signing one of the two QB candidates. It all hedges on that, and it's not about wins.

Assuming we draft a QB, it's time to start caring about winning; 2010 draft be damned.
These players need to win and start building confidence. So as far as I'M concerned, the coming of Sanchez/Stafford officially closes the door on "You play to win the draft".

More Draft Junk:

foxsports had this post combine QB rankings...

http://cfn.scout.com/2/840191.html\


They have the rest of the offensive rankings as well if you click on the positions links.

Not impressed with this list at all.

3. Mark Sanchez, USC 6-3, 227
Pre-Combine Position Rank: 2
Post-Combine Skinny: Passed every test. Showed real, honest fire and passion for the game off the field, measured up to Matthew Stafford on it. Cranked out a solid 9-8 broad jump and scored high marks for throwing when he wasn't expected to.
Positives: Quick release. Good at getting the ball out of his hands in a hurry … Great fire. He’s not Matt Leinart … Can move*.
Negatives: Was fine at USC, but not elite … Barely 6-3 … NFL arm, but not jaw-dropping … If Pete Carroll didn’t think he was ready, what’s the issue?

*That's the only thing of importance I'm taking from this guy's breakdown. Not that we didn't know this already.

I am shocked to see him at #2. And that was PRE combine?

This thread is comedy gold.

Yeah in hindsight I think everyone is relieved Stafford didn't slip to the Chiefs. He sucks

Well at least we don't have too many guys left who are of the "we can't draft a 1st round QB. It's just too Risky and could set this franchise back for years!" opinion anymore.

Yeah at this point we have all learned our lesson. If there is a walking piece of shit available in the first round that plays qb DRAFT HIM!!!!!!!

Ill take Stafford in a heartbeat.

Regardless if he's worth it.... draft him 1st rd..... they win.

With what the NFL has become over the last ten years, I don't understand why you don't trade give the Colts your 1st,2nd, and 3rd round picks for the next 2 years for Luck and if they want more give it to them.

Pioli made the right decision in passing on Sanchez. Where he has errored is by never giving Cassel legit competition.

Because it takes two teams to tango. If I was running the Colts, I wouldn't trade that pick for anything.