I'm unburying this from the early pages of the thread. I believe what this was referring to is the (bizarrely named) "TOR:CON Index" that a Weather Channel PhD came up with. It all has to do with areas within a 50-mile radius of a location. In other words, they were likely saying that there was a 50% chance of another tornado hitting within 50 miles of Joplin that night.

You can read about it here.

http://www.weather.com/outlook/weath...ner_2011-03-23

and there was....

I could very well see that. You don't mess around with this kind of crap in MO after something like this has happened. This very well may result in more casualties.

Missouri is the same as everywhere else, sorry to have to tell you that.

Wouldn't break my heart.

Regionally, yes. Beyond this, no.

I disagree. Your talking about a group coming into an area where everyone has been affected vs. a family and friends of a fallen soldier. I don't see this going so well for them. As sad as it is.

A know a cop from Joplin. He's a great dude and would help anybody. He will likely be doing anything but watching out for these idiots.

You don't know how many years I've wished someone would take them out. But they have been all over the country (including Missouri) and it hasnt happened yet.

Listen, I know you want to think this is going to be different. But it isn't. As much as I'd like to see it.

Wow. A new low for them. I wouldn't be surprised to see someone go apeshit on them.

I can't imagine the cops will have the manpower to give them a full security set up like they usually get. I really, really, really hope this is the time.

Temporary insanity should be a plausible defense. I don't see a jury convicting anyone.

Easiest way to shut these assholes down (outside of slaughtering the lot of them) is having them secretly declared a terrorist group, then snatching them all up en masse when they try to "protest" somewhere.

I have been working at MSSU campus for the past three days and have been in countless meetings about the Governors and President's visit, and I can tell you this WILL NOT be the case.

Sunday is also the day a community wide memorial service is being planned. Coincidence? I don't think so

From 7am to 7pm tomorrow in Lawrence, people from Great Plains Media (105.9 the lazer, 1320 KLWN) will be collecting things and loading them onto a semi-trailer to haul down to Joplin.

http://www.lazer.com/pages/9897328.php

Just picked up 4 cases of water, paper towels, tooth brushes and toothpaste to drop off first thing in the morning. Thought I'd share this in case any other CP members in Lawrence want to donate some things.

Damn.

http://www.kansas.com/2011/05/25/186...y-skyular.html

Hope the mother doesn't feel guilty for that... There was not a goddamned thing she could've done to stop that from happening.

"told ya?ll i tote it put the bullet in the glock and blow that bitch"

I'm pretty sure no one has killed Fred Phelps yet because he surrounds himself with his family. There's always children around him.

That's sad as hell and that being said, not trying to be flip, his name was Skyular?

****ing eerie. :(

reporting in, I'm alive and well FWIW

Good news! I had no idea you were from Joplin, before this thread. I live just outside of town and work in Joplin.

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Watching CNN it seems getting any information especially about the deceased is a cluster****.

Also this permit thing they are doing is stupid as hell

Great news man

One of the reasons there is so much issue with the deceased is they have all the bodies in a refrigerated trailer (or several I guess) and I was told they have to take them all to Jeff City and have all identified before they release any of them. They are afraid of making a mistake in identification.

What a mess.

The permit thing has been lifted because it was a cluster ****.

Yep, and I'm doing good

just got the power on

Did. They stopped doing it after they realized it was a headache.

Great to hear. Didn't realize you were a fellow Joplinite. Hope it didn't tear you up to bad.

One of the excuses they said was one of the first dead person that they tried to ID they messed up so now they are being gun shy. Which is ok but to tell people it could be up to 2 weeks is outrageous.

Well I hope that is true.

The meteorologist on AC 360 acts like a crazy person. AC looked horrified to be working with the guy.

FEM are a bunch of assholes too with the local enforcement

they actually released a statement today that essentially said: "we don't want anyone bringing any food stands, or help. all we need is money".

bunch of asshats.

really, I was listening to the radio all day and didn't hear any mention of that.

my wife works for chc of sek.
lots of info coming down the pipes.
but really, why do you police people bringing food in to help out with those in need?

For reasons I don't want to discuss on CP I know they screwed up one of the first ID's.

Distraught family members wrongly ID'd a body and they almost buried the wrong person.

It is a true story, I know the person and family involved unfortunately.

hell the left the local EMTs and Docs out of the loop when it came to the first wave to rescue patients/workers out of St Johns so they can hog all the credit, but I have the real story what happened.( you'll shit bricks)

oh, i get it. i really do. this shit just pisses the hell out of me.
i'm so sorry for whatever troubles you guys might be having.

The area is literally overrun with water and material supplies. It's not a gimmick to get $.

**** them. I can see in the case of policing the area inside.

Didn't realize there were more CPers from this area than just me until I think I saw you make a comment about it. Small world.

absolutely.
why turn down food? sometimes i think these "people in charge" are more clueless than the next guy. you know?

I did hear the director of the blood center of the ozarks say to quit donating blood for a couple of weeks.

Memorable quote: "Mark it on the calendar. Don't forget us. Just remember us in a few weeks"

Can you elaborate?

There are plenty of stands on the fringe. But if people are cleaning out the area, well its not exactly smooth streets. I can see keeping as many people out as possible.

good.
yeah, i totally get the impedment of clean up. i'm glad there's stuff out there on the fringe. that makes me feel a little better.

not really, because if it got out it would cost a few jobs and end up on the national news

Oh yeah. I was down on 22nd and main within 20 minutes of it happening looking for my daughter. Spent the rest of the night going around with groups checking for survivors.

From what I have seen, there are way too many non critical need people in the area.

I talked to a tree service guy from Indiana that said he drove 14 hours straight to get there.

He was hanging out in a gas station looking for something to do.

Meanwhile local people were in the areas cutting up trees with chainsaws.

It's just to disorganized from what I can see.

There's tons. The outpouring of support brings tears to my eyes everyday.

We had to go get my GF's kids at her ex husbands on 29th & Joplin St about an hour after.

Had to park at 20th Pearl and walk in. It was the craziest shit I have ever seen. I will never forget.

One of the hold-ups right now is the insurance companies in that they don't have enough adjusters(sp?) here to make assessments before clean up can begin.

I agree. That is why I tell anyone to volunteer to check at mssu student rec center. I don't know how organized it is, but it's got to be better then just going out and getting in the way. Which is what the radio is telling people to do.

I can imagine. I heard they were pretty much just totaling everything but there are tons of places to get too.

A coworker thought his house was salvageable but the water damage to the interior structure totaled it.

The water damage issue never even occurred to me with the shit ripped apart damage being so apparent.

The entire day of rain on Monday didn't help.

Yes it was. I had to park at 21st and jackson, luck would have it I got there before the traffic really hit. I probably walked 10 miles that day. The cell phones being down was probably the most demoralizing thing ever.

I believe you I just hope they get it straightened out and not make people wait any longer than they have to.

It's a bad deal but I kind of understand why they want to get it right. Positive ID is huge.

I am thinking about heading down this weekend to help out do any of you guys need anything?

I registered yesterday a little after Noon and was turned away promptly afterwards. I don't think they couldn't have sent more than 6 groups of an unknown number of people at any time to that point, which I think is due to the insurance problem and the other hazards. Not to mention I think the authorities are too afraid of a non-professional getting a survivor killed because they weren't trained.

I thought about it for awhile and thats why I wound up just giving a cash donation. I know it may sound like the lazy way out, but I figured the money could be used for whatever is needed whereas the use of a supply donation would be limited. The costs associated with this mess both directly and indirectly have to be astronomical, and I figured money might be the most helpful. I just hope the organization I donated through uses the money efficiently. That was my only concern with giving cash.

I have had 1,000 conversations with friends and coworkers about the lack of ability to communicate at the time.

People didn't have cell phones before in times like this but when you have one and it's useless it pisses you the **** off.

My GF's daughter text her "we are trying to get out of the house" and then we didn't gt another message or communicate again until we got to the house.

Scary shit.

Not I. I've been mildly inconvenienced and that's about it compared to what some people have endured. Just like you I want to help.

Not sure I'd call missing relatives, even if temporarily, a mild inconvenience, man.

Sounds like a story that needs telling.

Can't speak for the others on CP but I am good I live outside town. Been trying to help my friends with stuff.

From what I understand some of the biggest needs are toiletries, clothes, shoes etc...rather than food, water etc....

Lot's of people lost everything so those things are huge.

I would imagine there is a rally point for those type items but I am not sure where. I am sure one of the others can answer.

The shit i saw while searching will haunt my dreams forever man.

I can't even accept the notion that I didn't get off lucky.

Some of you may have seen this. Wanted to share this as I think it sums up the opinion of the area.

http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/g...cupp/Shawn.jpg

Is that the car lot who's got the funny signs next to Sportsmans Park?

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Yea.

I know what you are saying. It is a life changing experience.

http://www.facebook.com/notes/charli...12517788781404

Counter Memorial to block Westboro.

If you want come help out, here is a good cause.

Just a few blocks from my house.

Conflicting stories on baby Skyular's fate
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Robert Cohen Rusty Burton keeps his grandson Skyular Logsdon's picture on his cellphone as he waits at the missing persons center at Missouri Southern State University in Joplin. Family members are frantically searching for the 16-month-old boy after the child disappeared during Sunday evening's tornado. Skyular's parents, Carol Jo Tate and Corderro Logsdon, were both injured and are hospitalized in Pittsburg. Robert Cohen rcohen@post-dispatch.com .
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JOPLIN, Mo. • Family members of 16-month-old Skyular Logsdon offered conflicting reports Wednesday night about the fate of the toddler missing after Joplin's tornado.

The Kansas City Star reported that the boy's great-uncle had identified Skyular at the morgue on Wednesday. The Star attributed the information to the stepmother of the child's uncle. They are both relatives of the boy's father.

But relatives of Skyular's mother told the Post-Dispatch that Skyular was not in the morgue Wednesday and that they had checked again with disaster officials after hearing about the disputed accounts.

"As far as we know, he's still missing," said the boy's stepgrandfather, Rusty Burton. "So far, there hasn't been any changes" in the boy's status.

Skyular disappeared from his mother's arms in Sunday's storm. His mother, Carol Tate, and his father, Corderro Logsdon, were both severely injured and taken to a Kansas hospital.

With the parents in the hospital, other relatives have undertaken the search for Skyular. The efforts made by Burton and three other relatives were detailed in a Post-Dispatch article on Wednesday.

The relatives quoted by the Star could not be contacted by the Post-Dispatch.

Burton said that "these false reports" about Skyular being found only compounded the family's anguish

I have a buddy who's deploying tomorrow morning. He's waaaaay down the list and he has no experience at all except for training, but the company made it that far down.

I might go. I hope this catches wind... I posted it on my FB.

What is the situation with walking around freely and not being allowed access to places. When I first read about things it seemed like the restricted permit system was limited to vehicle access but then some stuff I saw today made me question that.

As a photographer walking around after I take care of my official business what kind of leeway will I have. Any folks familiar with the situation?

Don't loot and you'll be fine if it's not during curfew.

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