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Red And Yellow 01-17-2013 01:50 PM

No, USC QB's scare the shit out of me, #7 to boot, and did I mention his first name is Matt?

HolyHat 01-17-2013 01:53 PM

Geno Smith = 10 inches

Matt Barkley = 3 inches

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-17-2013 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red And Yellow (Post 9328454)
No, USC QB's scare the shit out of me, #7 to boot, and did I mention his first name is Matt?


And that ****ing #7. No thanks.

"I LOVE SHITTY KARMA AND CAN'T READ THE SIGNS OF IMPENDING DOOM"-screams this pick.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-17-2013 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red And Yellow (Post 9328454)
No, USC QB's scare the shit out of me, #7 to boot, and did I mention his first name is Matt?

Barkley 4 year starter. Cassel never played thats a real smart thought process.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-17-2013 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by @KCsporting (Post 9328469)
Geno Smith = 10 inches

Matt Barkley = 3 inches

Mel Kilper doesn't think so.

HolyHat 01-17-2013 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9328489)
Barkley 4 year starter. Cassel never played thats a real smart thought process.

Hi, My name is Fred and I take life way too serious. merp, merp

DeezNutz 01-17-2013 02:00 PM

Barkley is undervalued on this board.

He comes out last year, he's a top 10 pick. This year, the pendulum is swinging too far in the other direction.

HolyHat 01-17-2013 02:08 PM

Landry Jones was projected top 10 last year...now he's not even in the first 3 rounds in a so-called "bad class"....

I think the general consensus is nobody knows what the **** is going on anymore besides the fact that they feel uncomfortable when Geno is naked in the locker room

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-17-2013 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by @KCsporting (Post 9328526)
Landry Jones was projected top 10 last year...now he's not even in the first 3 rounds in a so-called "bad class"....

I think the general consensus is nobody knows what the **** is going on anymore besides the fact that they feel uncomfortable when Geno is naked in the locker room

Indeed. Chocolate Penii is a threat to all inferior penii.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-17-2013 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by @KCsporting (Post 9328526)
Landry Jones was projected top 10 last year...now he's not even in the first 3 rounds in a so-called "bad class"....

I think the general consensus is nobody knows what the **** is going on anymore besides the fact that they feel uncomfortable when Geno is naked in the locker room

Breaking news- If Geno was this great we wouldn't see mock drafts with the Chiefs taking a LT. On everyone big board the highest i've seen Geno is 14.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-17-2013 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9328536)
Breaking news- If Geno was this great we wouldn't see mock drafts with the Chiefs taking a LT. On everyone big board the highest i've seen Geno is 14.

Bullshit. We will ALWAYS see mock drafts with the Chiefs taking a ****ing O-lineman. It is....what it is.

HolyHat 01-17-2013 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9328536)
Breaking news- If Geno was this great we wouldn't see mock drafts with the Chiefs taking a LT. On everyone big board the highest i've seen Geno is 14.

Well if you would wonder over to the worst website on earth. bleacherreport.com you will find Geno on top of that board.

Its Jan. bro, settle yourself down. He will seperate himself in the QB department very soon.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-17-2013 02:15 PM

[QUOTE=@KCsporting;9328542]Well if you would wonder over to the worst website on earth. bleacherreport.com you will find Geno on top of that board.

Its Jan. bro, settle yourself down. He will seperate himself in the QB department very soon.[/QUOTE]



Good Luck with that.

Titty Meat 01-17-2013 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by @KCsporting (Post 9328526)
Landry Jones was projected top 10 last year...now he's not even in the first 3 rounds in a so-called "bad class"....

I think the general consensus is nobody knows what the **** is going on anymore besides the fact that they feel uncomfortable when Geno is naked in the locker room

Landry Jones isnt projected to go in the first 3 rounds? I see why youre no longer employed in the NFL.

HolyHat 01-17-2013 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9328549)
Landry Jones isnt projected to go in the first 3 rounds? I see why youre no longer employed in the NFL.

Well played. I was going out on a limb with that fact. How far off was I?

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-17-2013 02:17 PM

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Really gotta get me a pair.

Titty Meat 01-17-2013 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by @KCsporting (Post 9328555)
Well played. I was going out on a limb with that fact. How far off was I?

Wouldlnt be surprised to see him go in the 2nd round. He has all the physical tools.

SAUTO 01-17-2013 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9328536)
Breaking news- If Geno was this great we wouldn't see mock drafts with the Chiefs taking a LT. On everyone big board the highest i've seen Geno is 14.

why dont you just STFU?

there are 6 out of over 60 mocks that have us taking the jackyll at one.

SAUTO 01-17-2013 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9328557)
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Really gotta get me a pair.

you really NEED a pair of something, but it aint glasses

RunKC 01-17-2013 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9328557)
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Really gotta get me a pair.

Holy shit I've gotta get me some of those!!!

SAUTO 01-17-2013 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9328561)
Wouldlnt be surprised to see him go in the 2nd round. He has all the physical tools.

he is rated the 7-10 best QB this year with a 2-3 round grade

silver5liter 01-17-2013 02:24 PM

The Barkley Blinders must cover your whole face.

HolyHat 01-17-2013 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9328576)
he is rated the 7-10 best QB this year with a 2-3 round grade

so rated the 7-10th best QB out of this "weak class"... hmmm, no thanks on him.

HolyHat 01-17-2013 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9328557)
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Really gotta get me a pair.

I'd wear those. Think they have em at sunglass hut?

SAUTO 01-17-2013 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by @KCsporting (Post 9328581)
so rated the 7-10th best QB out of this "weak class"... hmmm, no thanks on him.

yeah that was a quick rundown of the major site rankings, some have him SLIGHTLY higher some lower.

highest was 6 IIRC

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-17-2013 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by @KCsporting (Post 9328585)
I'd wear those. Think they have em at sunglass hut?

They only sell those at "Bad Mother****er Outlet".

HolyHat 01-17-2013 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9328654)
They only sell those at "Bad Mother****er Outlet".

Is that a store at the outlet in Osage Beach? I might have to make that trip.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-17-2013 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by @KCsporting (Post 9328659)
Is that a store at the outlet in Osage Beach? I might have to make that trip.

Not yet, but soon. And for the rest of our lives.

Red And Yellow 01-17-2013 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9328489)
Barkley 4 year starter. Cassel never played thats a real smart thought process.

I watched a few of his games wasn't to impressed

Chiefnj2 01-17-2013 03:25 PM

Barkley will be a fine backup, like all past USC QBs.

Rambozo 01-17-2013 03:28 PM

I actually watched some game tape on Barkley today and he was better than I thought. He consistantly makes 2 or 3 reads and the only other QB who does that regularly is Wilson imo. I still like Wilson and Geno better but, I wouldn't cry if we wound up with Barkley.

RunKC 01-17-2013 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9328778)
Barkley will be a fine backup, like all past USC QBs.

That's like saying Geno Smith will end up like Pat White.

Just stupid.

HolyHat 01-17-2013 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rambozo (Post 9328786)
I actually watched some game tape on Barkley today and he was better than I thought. He consistantly makes 2 or 3 reads and the only other QB who does that regularly is Wilson imo. I still like Wilson and Geno better but, I wouldn't cry if we wound up with Barkley.

This is where I would insert a GIF. of Geno making multiple reads and than throwing a 70 yard bomb in stride. But I don't have the power of GIF.'s

Sorter 01-17-2013 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9328778)
Barkley will be a fine backup, like all past USC QBs.

ROFL

RealSNR 01-17-2013 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9328557)
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Really gotta get me a pair.

Dumbass. These are blinders.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...x-Horses_2.jpg

Blinders are those things that horses have so they don't get distracted/frightened by stimuli to the rear and side

They're not shades.

****ing idiot.

Chiefs Pantalones 01-17-2013 05:15 PM

Evan Silva ‏@evansilva

New #Eagles coach Chip Kelly on former Oregon QB Darren Thomas: "Yeah, I think he can play in this league": http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7470/darron-thomas

BigMeatballDave 01-17-2013 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9328557)
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Really gotta get me a pair.

LMAO You don't know what blinders are.

Chiefs Pantalones 01-17-2013 06:12 PM

Danny Parkins ‏@DannyParkins

Tomorrow's show is gonna be fun. #Chiefs GM John Dorsey at 10:25, #Royals Closer @acrow43 at 11:00, and @NFLDraftScout in studio 1:00-2:00.

NJChiefsFan 01-17-2013 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9329025)
Blinders are those things that horses have so they don't get distracted/frightened by stimuli to the rear and side

They're not shades.

http://www.iceryder.net/images/DSCF4...kieglasses.jpg

"I no scared anymore cause I got ma blinders on and can't see full perspective on ma surrondinz."

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-18-2013 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9328778)
Barkley will be a fine backup, like all past USC QBs.

LMAO

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-25-2013 10:11 AM

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Rambozo 01-25-2013 10:18 AM

I like Barkley from Sesame Street as a better QB prospect.


http://s3.amazonaws.com/assets.prod....35mk061312.jpg

ChiTown 01-25-2013 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9350099)
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The ****?

ChiefsCountry 01-25-2013 10:38 AM

Barkley will shine at the Combine. His football IQ, how he handles the media, and his interactions with coaches and front office staff will have him back on top.

htismaqe 01-25-2013 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9350099)
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Kevin Fishbain looks EXACTLY like Mike Glennon. ROFL

htismaqe 01-25-2013 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9350183)
Barkley will shine at the Combine. His football IQ, how he handles the media, and his interactions with coaches and front office staff will have him back on top.

The analyst on 810 right now said his arm strength is being talked about A LOT in scouting circles. He also said that there's a ton of questions about his pre-snap reads and how he handles pressure in the pocket.

Said he thinks he'll get pushed up the board but at the end of the day, he's a low 1st-round prospect.

htismaqe 01-25-2013 10:48 AM

The guest is Lance Zierlein.

BossChief 01-25-2013 10:49 AM

If Barkley came out last year, he would have been the third overall pick.

I don't think he drops out of the top ten.

htismaqe 01-25-2013 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9350226)
If Barkley came out last year, he would have been the third overall pick.

I don't think he drops out of the top ten.

I could see him going top 15. I'm not sure we'll see 3 QBs go in the top 10.

ChiefsCountry 01-25-2013 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9350234)
I could see him going top 15. I'm not sure we'll see 3 QBs go in the top 10.

I bet we see 4 go in the top 10. QB is just too valuable.

dallaschiefsfan 01-25-2013 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9350183)
Barkley will shine at the Combine. His football IQ, how he handles the media, and his interactions with coaches and front office staff will have him back on top.

Per last year's popular sentiment and scouting, this wouldn't surprise me - much like Tyler Wilson's current buzz seems natural in light of how everyone viewed him going into this season. Before all is said in done, this place will be pure comedy to watch if Geno ends up slipping to the 3rd QB taken. Having said that, if it's clear Geno is the best after the combine and everything settles, I obviously hope we take him.

BossChief 01-25-2013 11:00 AM

Brandon Weeden and Christian Ponder went in the first round....think about that for a second

Yeah, I see Geno, Wilson and Barkley all going in the top ten

Maybe even Nassib if his college coach (that is now the HC in Buffalo) likes him enough.

Rambozo 01-25-2013 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9350237)
I bet we see 4 go in the top 10. QB is just too valuable.

LMAO Did you really work for a team? This is worst than anything I have ever said in all of my accounts. You seem like the kind of guy that takes a Chiefs player with every pick in your fantasy draft. You can ban me from the draft forum but, you can't save yourself. ROFL

Sorter 01-25-2013 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rambozo (Post 9350264)
LMAO Did you really work for a team? This is worst than anything I have ever said in all of my accounts. You seem like the kind of guy that takes a Chiefs player with every pick in your fantasy draft. You can ban me from the draft forum but, you can't save yourself. ROFL

http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/disa...nt_gif_546.gif

Rambozo 01-25-2013 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan (Post 9350258)
Per last year's popular sentiment and scouting, this wouldn't surprise me - much like Tyler Wilson's current buzz seems natural in light of how everyone viewed him going into this season. Before all is said in done, this place will be pure comedy to watch if Geno ends up slipping to the 3rd QB taken.

I agree 100%. He hasn't gotten that much better.

FringeNC 01-25-2013 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9350237)
I bet we see 4 go in the top 10. QB is just too valuable.

Given the new rookie salary structure, I think you may be right.

BigMeatballDave 01-25-2013 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rambozo (Post 9350264)
LMAO Did you really work for a team? This is worst than anything I have ever said in all of my accounts. You seem like the kind of guy that takes a Chiefs player with every pick in your fantasy draft. You can ban me from the draft forum but, you can't save yourself. ROFL

You just don't understand today's game.

Rambozo 01-25-2013 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9350403)
You just don't understand today's game.

I think I understand it. QB is the position that teams reach on more than any position in the draft. However, for four QBs to go in the top 10, it would have to be a super special year that comes around once in a lifetime. There is no way that is going to happen this year. There is no way in hell.

Do you know why guys like Direkshun for example aren't talking about the draft much this year? This is a good example of why. You guys are so far gone and desperate on this quarterback class that it's not even funny to most. Th It's just annoying to most people and they go elsewhere. I know because I post at the same sites. I am just patient and entertained for now.

htismaqe 01-25-2013 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rambozo (Post 9350417)
I think I understand it. QB is the position that teams reach on more than any position in the draft. However, for four QBs to go in the top 10, it would have to be a super special year that comes around once in a lifetime. There is no way that is going to happen this year. There is no way in hell.

Do you know why guys like Direkshun for example aren't talking about the draft much this year? This is a good example of why. You guys are so far gone and desperate on this quarterback class that it's not even funny to most. Th It's just annoying to most people and they go elsewhere. I know because I post at the same sites. I am just patient and entertained for now.

Direckshun isn't talking much about the draft because he's been completely consumed by partisan politics.

Nothing more, nothing less.

BigCatDaddy 01-25-2013 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9350237)
I bet we see 4 go in the top 10. QB is just too valuable.

Geno
Wilson
Barkley
Glennon


I can see it for sure, I think 3 is a no doubter but 4 is possible.

htismaqe 01-25-2013 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9350507)
Geno
Wilson
Barkley
Glennon


I can see it for sure, I think 3 is a no doubter but 4 is possible.

In the top 10?

I see three in the top 15. No way I see 4 in the top 10.

BigCatDaddy 01-25-2013 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9350519)
In the top 10?

I see three in the top 15. No way I see 4 in the top 10.

Chiefs
Jags
Raiders
Eagles
Bills
Browns
Cards
Jets

All of those teams could draft a QB in the 1st. I can also see Dallas making a move up for one.

htismaqe 01-25-2013 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9350528)
Chiefs
Jags
Raiders
Eagles
Bills
Browns
Cards
Jets

All of those teams could draft a QB in the 1st. I can also see Dallas making a move up for one.

Yes, all of those teams COULD.

But you're banking on the idea that at least 4 of them WILL. I don't see it.

Rambozo 01-25-2013 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 9350374)
Given the new rookie salary structure, I think you may be right.

Even with the rookie structure, they still grade out as second rounders imo. That would be beyond reaching. Maybe four QBs could go in the first round? But, not in the top 10 or top 15. I think two at best would go top 15.

RealSNR 01-25-2013 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rambozo (Post 9350417)
I think I understand it. QB is the position that teams reach on more than any position in the draft. However, for four QBs to go in the top 10, it would have to be a super special year that comes around once in a lifetime. There is no way that is going to happen this year. There is no way in hell.

Do you know why guys like Direkshun for example aren't talking about the draft much this year? This is a good example of why. You guys are so far gone and desperate on this quarterback class that it's not even funny to most. Th It's just annoying to most people and they go elsewhere. I know because I post at the same sites. I am just patient and entertained for now.

Every year it's the same ****ing shit. "This QB class sucks. Next year's class will be better." Wah wah wah.

They can't ALL suck. Some of them have to represent the norm, and only a few get to be exceptionally terrible.

2010 was one of those really terrible classes. Same with 2011. And really, I would put 2009 as a pretty bad class, too. 2008 would be bad as well if it weren't for teams like Atlanta and Baltimore that ignored the ****ing idiots that parroted the, "QB not worth it! QB not worth it!" mantra for ****ing months. 2007 and 2006, obviously, ****ing shitty as hell.

2013 is a GOOD QB class. People just don't realize it yet. And yes, that includes the scouts and national draft media experts that people irrationally cling to. If it isn't an obvious selection sitting in front of them like Andrew Luck, these assholes often wouldn't know a good QB if he raped their mothers.

BigCatDaddy 01-25-2013 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9350542)
Yes, all of those teams COULD.

But you're banking on the idea that at least 4 of them WILL. I don't see it.

I strongly see the Chiefs, Bills, Cards, and Jets taking one. A lot of these teams are now under new coaches and will want to get "their guy". Guys like Weeden and Foles are easily expendable because they were from the previous regime. I also can't see the Jags going in with Gabbert and Henne again. There may be some FA moves that change things, but I don't see many FA QB's that will prevent a team from taking one in the draft. Maybe Alex Smith gets traded and takes one of these teams out of contention. It will be more obvious once FA gets under way.

RealSNR 01-25-2013 01:06 PM

I also think Barkley gets shit on way too much on this forum. He's a first round talent for sure, and I think enough teams need QBs that somebody will trade up into the top 15 or even the top 10 to draft him.

Rambozo 01-25-2013 01:07 PM

He's not my favorite QB but, I see him as the first off the board right now.

htismaqe 01-25-2013 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rambozo (Post 9350577)
He's not my favorite QB but, I see him as the first off the board right now.

ROFL

Sorter 01-25-2013 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rambozo (Post 9350577)
He's not my favorite QB but, I see him as the first off the board right now.

Yes, we all understand you love Glennon.

Lex Luthor 01-25-2013 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rambozo (Post 9350577)
He's not my favorite QB but, I see him as the first off the board right now.

And you wonder why the "mob" neg-reps you.

the Talking Can 01-25-2013 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9350563)
Every year it's the same ****ing shit. "This QB class sucks. Next year's class will be better." Wah wah wah.

They can't ALL suck. Some of them have to represent the norm, and only a few get to be exceptionally terrible.

2010 was one of those really terrible classes. Same with 2011. And really, I would put 2009 as a pretty bad class, too. 2008 would be bad as well if it weren't for teams like Atlanta and Baltimore that ignored the ****ing idiots that parroted the, "QB not worth it! QB not worth it!" mantra for ****ing months. 2007 and 2006, obviously, ****ing shitty as hell.

2013 is a GOOD QB class. People just don't realize it yet. And yes, that includes the scouts and national draft media experts that people irrationally cling to. If it isn't an obvious selection sitting in front of them like Andrew Luck, these assholes often wouldn't know a good QB if he raped their mothers.

thank you

2008 had a QB with an average arm and a less than 2/1 td/int ratio; and a QB from ****ing Delaware who threw for a 189 yards against Delaware St...

this fanbase would lose their idiot shit if those were our options this year

and both QBs have been to conference championship games, one to the superbowl

B14ckmon 01-25-2013 01:20 PM

Barkley get's shit on by virtue of playing for USC. If he was playing in the SEC people would be blowing him. The guy was a potential top 5 pick last year. His talent and skills didn't just disappear when he returned for his senior year. He still had a good year, the whole team just underperformed for the most part.

Barkley was insane in the LSU game.

suds79 01-25-2013 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9350609)
Barkley get's shit on by virtue of playing for USC. If he was playing in the SEC people would be blowing him. The guy was a potential top 5 pick last year. His talent and skills didn't just disappear when he returned for his senior year. He still had a good year, the whole team just underperformed for the most part.

Barkley was insane in the LSU game.

My gripe isn't the fact that he's a USC QB or played in Pac 12. I couldn't care less. Furthermore, I don't see how QBs from the same school tie at all when they're different players with completely different coaches during those eras.

My thing is Matt is simple. I've had my fill of weak armed KC QBs. Some good (Green) and a lot who were bad (namely Cassel). I'm just tired of that style of play. I want to watch something different.

So for that reason, I'd rather roll the dice on a project guy with tools than see Matt Barkley. That's just me.

the Talking Can 01-25-2013 01:31 PM

i think there's a good chance barkley is top 15, depending on combine chatter...

if he drops into the 20's someone will move up for him

FringeNC 01-25-2013 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rambozo (Post 9350544)
Even with the rookie structure, they still grade out as second rounders imo. That would be beyond reaching. Maybe four QBs could go in the first round? But, not in the top 10 or top 15. I think two at best would go top 15.

As if all this grading is precise. There is some probability distribution of performance of the player: He may hit his grade, he may underperform his grade, or he may exceed his grade. In the modern NFL, if you don't have one of the 10 best QBs in the league, you can't win -- so you draft a QB, and hope you get right-tail performance. If not, rinse and repeat - and the new rookie scale makes that easier to do.

B14ckmon 01-25-2013 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 9350636)
My gripe isn't the fact that he's a USC QB or played in Pac 12. I couldn't care less. Furthermore, I don't see how QBs from the same school tie at all when they're different players with completely different coaches during those eras.

My thing is Matt is simple. I've had my fill of weak armed KC QBs. Some good (Green) and a lot who were bad (namely Cassel). I'm just tired of that style of play. I want to watch something different.

So for that reason, I'd rather roll the dice on a project guy with tools than see Matt Barkley. That's just me.

Well I was mostly just speaking in general, not in the context of the Chiefs picking him since I am not actually a Chiefs fan.

But they have been saying all season how Barkley's arm strength is much improved this year. I think this misconception has been coming from some of his highlight videos where he sails them and it's underthrown. And with a lot of those, it's because he sailed the balled too much, not because he didn't throw it hard enough.

DeezNutz 01-25-2013 01:35 PM

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Barkley get's shit on by virtue of playing for USC. If he was playing in the SEC people would be blowing him. The guy was a potential top 5 pick last year. His talent and skills didn't just disappear when he returned for his senior year. He still had a good year, the whole team just underperformed for the most part.

Barkley was insane in the LSU game.

Absolutely correct.

He's a better prospect than Locker, who "fell" to #8 overall after having a shit senior season. Barkley, on the other hand, had a very solid year, and I expect he'll likely be top 10.

Health is the only question mark at this point.

B14ckmon 01-25-2013 01:41 PM

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Absolutely correct.

He's a better prospect than Locker, who "fell" to #8 overall after having a shit senior season. Barkley, on the other hand, had a very solid year, and I expect he'll likely be top 10.

Health is the only question mark at this point.

Health isn't a concern with Barkley. He just has a non surgical injury in his shoulder because he got absolutely rocked.

DeezNutz 01-25-2013 01:43 PM

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Health isn't a concern with Barkley. He just has a non surgical injury in his shoulder because he got absolutely rocked.

Any injury to a throwing shoulder is cause for concern. The question is how much.


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