lol.

Note how close Matt Moore was to Alex Smith.

FU, Dorsey.

Sounds like Brandon Carr.

Thanks.

Dude is a pretty big bump from Cassel. He was punished even in his "Pro Bowl" year. Jeez, what an abortion ***** was hitching his wagon to him.

This site hates Andy Dalton BTW a guy I've never been too high on watching him play. Flacco is just sooooo up and down.

That and he got burned. A lot.

And he the least physical 6-3, 220 lb CB ever.

meh Cassel was 8 ahead of Flacco.

You know what's great about Cassel?

He had one of the worst PFF ratings in the league in 2008 with NE.

He has been and always will be a turd.

Gonna need to see the PFF stats to confirm.

I still am curious what happened to Sean Smith the 2nd half of the season. Had one hell of a start and pretty much fell off the cliff play wise.

That comes from Dolphins fans.

Just looked at the PFF stats here and they don't exactly support the improvement these guys were talking about but there has to be more to the guys story than those ratings.

He's allowed 730+ yards receiving every year he's started every game at CB (he got benched and spent time at FS in 2010).

He's going to allow 730+ yards in KC, I bet.

Don't hold me to this but I think he was banged up. Had a broken hand at one point I THINK. I may be totally wrong here so don't take this as being solid info. I live here and go to a few games but I do NOT follow the Dolphins.

That would suck. How much did Carr give up this year for a little contrast?

2012 - 644
2011 - 511

We also gota figure in he'll have Houston, Hali pass rushing. Better secondary help.

The Dolphins had a better pass rush than the Chiefs last year.

How was Miami's safety play the last couple of years?

They are winning the Free Agent Frenzy!

Hell Herm Edwards thinks we will win the division.

Better than their CB play last year. ROFL

Not if Peyton stays healthy/slings it like last year. If father time catches up....sure why not?

I do find it hilarious Dolphin fans hated him, but all the football guys love him and this is being seen by all media that it's a great move.

Go Chiefs would have made a great Nazi propagandist.

It stings him greatly to see those Alex PFF numbers. Has to. Specially since they exposed Cassel as a fraud before he even came here, yet they prop Alex.

True Fans ARE Nazi Youth.

So basically Smith gave up around 10 ypg more than Carr.
Or like 1 completion. How much did Smith end up costing? Was it 50 mil?
How much is 10 ypg worth ya think?.

Had a very good SS in Reshad Jones last year. A solid FS in Chris Clemons, he's nothing spectacular, but he's not going to give up a lot of TD's either.

I find it hilarious Clay uses PFF rankings as gospel...Alex Smith was the 8th highest rated QB in 2011...and IMO from watching he looked better in 2012 than he ever did in 2011.

Hilarious. Clay I don't remember you ever posting about him being the 8th highest rated player in 2011 from your "bible" when you were trying to obliterate him with stats about a month ago.

You seem to leave really convenient factors out of the equation a lot.

He was 18th in 2012.

And I've already explained: it's easy to rack up a good PFF rating when you avoid tough throws or taking risks.

You mean 45.625 yards per game? (730/16)

You said earlier that he is the most targeted CB in the league.

That sounds pretty good to me, especially when you consider the lowest passing yards/game on offense last year was 185.2 by the Steelers.

If we have 4 DBs that can keep their individual totals at or under 45.625 yards/game (185.2 yards approximately) then we should have one of, if not the top passing defenses in the league....

I don't care, dude.

Brandon Carr was a very good CB for us.

Sean Smith is burn city.

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

so he was 18th when he played 8 games on a site that accumulates rankings as you play...meaning he projected to be right where Matt Schaub was (or 12th) had he played all 16 games.

and earlier you said 2011 was a better indicator of the kind of player Sean Smith is (I'm not sure why)...but now 2012 is the year to judge Alex Smith (even though he projected to be about the same as 2011)...

you're awesome

I didn't say that, but he is.

Another good sign he's hot garbage.

this is just excellent

I love it

We're talking about two different players, and I didn't say 2012 was the year to judge Alex Smith. Nowhere did I say that.

Alex Smith isn't going to win 13 games IN KANSAS CITY doing what he did in San Francisco. Period.

Brandon Carr was a ****ing stud at CB 2, wish we had him. Carr isnt a number 1. But then again Dallas D sucked and their secondary is putrid

Either way he's a HUGE upgrade over Cassel. Cassel's 08 and 10 being so bad is just gold.

Hot garbage that only allowed ~45 yds/game despite being targeted over and over again?

You know what's excellent?

When everyone on this site, and I mean EVERYONE, is bitching about Sean Smith right along with me in a few months.

It's GOING to happen. And when it does, I will appreciate the blowjobs.

Bookmark this post, ****er.

Did your second life emoticon die? Why the constant bitching?

I know you think 45 yards a game is good, but it's not.

That was 42nd out of 55 CBs.

Did Sean Smith have a good game for the Chiefs yet? No? Then the bitching isn't going to end until he does.

Upgrade the interior pass rush and we won't bitch as much though.

His rankings are a bit of a kick to the balls though as they often similar to what I see on the field.

How is 45 ypg burn city?

but I don't know anything about Sean Smith

he may ****ing suck for all I know

but I don't care about a guy making $4M a year potentially sucking

oh the **** well

cut him

How is 42nd out of 55 CBs good?

Lol I guess that's how.

It's all relative to how he compares to others. Doesn't sound like much, but it is. Curious what his YPA against was though and where that ranks him.

I read somewhere he was targeted like 100 times one year lol. That is ridiculous.

you know what I do know

Sean Smith, Dunta Robinson, Mike DeVito and Donnie Avery

if they ****ing suck

you know what I know?

none of them have salary cap crippling contacts...each and every one can be cut and we suffer LITTLE short term or long term implications

****ing whiny bitches on this site

You plan on staying in your base package and never making a substitution?

14th, which means he's giving up a lot of short completions because he's afraid of getting burned deep.

Sounds like a plan.

I'm not going to be happy when we sign a shitty player to start, no matter the cost.

That's why I like those moves. None of those contracts hinder our future in any way. If they work great, if not CYA.

well I can't wait for us to get 22 all pros as well but I don't see it happening

you know

ever

Maybe they had him playing the wrong type of system/game than he's suited for?

and we have 6-7 draft picks

we have a ton of holes

and people are bitching because we are spending money

ok fine

don't like Dunta and Sean? Cool. Who the **** should we have signed instead? No one?

That would actually be much more telling. That and QB rating against. Basically all 8the stats we had on Dunta.

What defense do they run and what are his strengths?

I live in Florida but just can't bring myself to watch the Fins play. They're hands down one of the most boring teams in the league.

No clue,

I'm already on record with several other players being better.

And Sean Smith is so bad I'd rather the Chiefs start a rookie.

From what ive heard they primarily run the zone, which is his weakness. He excels in press coverage. Think we plan on being very aggressive this year. We will see

Probably would've been better than signing garbage.

Cool. Maybe we'll draft a CB and he can beat out Sean Smith. I guess we'll see.

Post the screenshot showing where he was ranked in 2012.

I don't respond to requests from nimrods like yourself.

Its not ypcompletion.
This post right here shows that your opinion is completly slanted.
There is no way whatsoever that you could know that.
And the fact is, that stat is 1000 times more telling of a player than total yards.

LMAO

You're funny, Dude

Yards per attempt was 6.47

732 / 113

I don't think YPA is a good measuring stick for a CB.

It doesn't take into account things like Sean Smith getting ****ing toasted but Mark Sanchez missing the pass.

http://i.imgur.com/5Zl4zeu.gif

Didn't I see a gif of him getting a pick in front of Andre Johnson?

Dude, if you think YPA is an inferior barometer to total yards our discussion is over.

On that many attempts, I'd say it's a pretty good indicator. That's not bad a bad number at all TBH.

How can you blame Smith? It was Mark Sanchez throwing the football.

He gave up the most combined 1st downs and TD's, so he's not exactly doing a good job at preventing his man from getting to their desination.

You want more? I can do this all ****ing day. How about a nice pass interference penalty? Even when Sean Smith has good coverage he ****s it up.

http://i.imgur.com/gCoJVjO.gif

Don't turn your head or anything, toasty&crispy reincarnated.

Or maybe his safeties just sucked ass as well?

The discussion was over long ago. The guy was 42nd in yards allowed. That's shit.

Better a pass interference call than a touchdown.