http://www2.kusports.com/news/2005/f...ouse_built_to/

Always trying to keep up with their big bro...

At least KSU can hang their hats on having nice venues...

Fieldhouse built to catch*KSU,*MUPrior to arena, Jayhawks used to play basketball in cramped Hoch Auditorium

By*Chuck Woodling



Some call it the House that Wilt Built. Not true.

Allen Fieldhouse was completed months before Wilt Chamberlain showed up on the Kansas University campus.

Many others believe the impetus for construction came when the Jayhawks captured the 1952 NCAA men's basketball championship. Another fallacy.

The Kansas Legislature had approved the $2.5 million to build the fieldhouse more than a year before the Jayhawks won the '52 title.

The truth is that Allen Fieldhouse evolved because KU was not keeping up with the Joneses. Kansas State had Ahearn Fieldhouse. Missouri had Brewer Fieldhouse. Nebraska had Schulte Fieldhouse. Colorado had Balch Fieldhouse. Why didn't KU have one, too?

Kansas was playing basketball in front of a stage in Hoch Auditorium, while its other sports were using antiquated Robinson Gymnasium (not the spacious, refurbished Robinson Gym of today).

The first seed was sown Oct. 7, 1946, when the Kansas Board of Regents instructed KU Chancellor Deane Malott to begin studying possible sites and methods of paying for a new campus sports arena.

Six months later, the Kansas House ways and means committee killed a bill that would have ticketed $650,000 toward the construction of a 10,000-seat fieldhouse on the KU campus. Nevertheless, two years later, the legislature appropriated $750,000 for a KU sports facility. Not enough.

It would be another two years before the state legislature approved the remainder of the funding for the $2.5 million project. A year after that, construction began. Finally, three years later, Kansas University had its fieldhouse.

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An aerial photo shows Allen Fieldhouse under construction.

Nine long years

From germination to fruition, the process had taken nine long years.

And not everybody was pleased with the final product.

"Everybody complained it was too big and too far away from town," said Warren Corman, a project architect then and KU's chief architect now.

Today, Allen Fieldhouse isn't big enough for the number of fans who want to watch the KU men's team perform, and many of the fans lucky enough to obtain tickets wish the looming limestone structure wasn't so close to campus and its limited parking.

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When the fieldhouse finally was finished, it was the largest basketball arena in this part of the country and one of the biggest in the nation. How many fans the building held at its inception is a matter of conjecture.

Before anyone could count the number of seats, Phog Allen declared that the capacity was 17,000, and who was going to dispute the legendary KU coach and the building's namesake? Privately, KU officials said 16,000 was more like it. Nevertheless, the estimated dedication-day attendance of 17,228 remains the all-time high and a record that cannot be broken because today's official capacity is 16,300 -- nearly 1,000 fewer than the record.

Not until 19 years later did KU officials revise the capacity. In the summer of 1974, new end-zone bleachers were installed as part of a large renovation project, and KU officials announced they had "lost" 1,000 seats. The new number was 16,000.

That was also the summer, incidentally, that the dirt surface that defines a fieldhouse was completely covered. In other words, for the last three decades, Allen Fieldhouse technically has been a misnomer.

Coming in 2008! The GRIDIRON CLUB AT MEMORIAL STAD.... never mind.

Yeah.

If you build it, they will come....right?

FWIW, the new expansion/addition of the north end of BSF fun factory looks pretty slick...

BOOOOOOOO!!

With some of the previous regimes, I'd be worried that they'd do it on the cheap. To their credit, Currie and Schultz don't cut corners. I think it will look pretty good.

Ummm... Mr Douchebag? What happened there?

I guess I hurt a mods feelings so they showed off their level of creativity by changing my name.

Yup....it's sure creative.

It looks good. There were questions whether or not they could afford what was shown in the renderings as they weren't really done with a strict budget in mind. But I think that $60M might help a bit...

I haven't seen the real renderings. I think they'll be released soon. After the spring game probably.

I can't imagine how awesome a renovated Ahearn would've been had they kept it. The state would have two fantastic gems and I am sure KSU would've won many more games and recruited better the past couple decades with Ahearn. Tragic really.

What did you do? What thread?

This is nerve wracking.

C'mon EMAW get it going.

Said The Bad Guys source is Twitter in the Justin Houston thread.

People got mad.

Populous did them. I don't know when they will release them to the public.

Three kings: Cats/Hawks/ Shox

Another Super Bowl: Oh well... flagship and all...

Come on man, you don't really believe that? OU is clearly the flagship down there.

Because basketball is a second tier sport?

I see your logic.

What are you guys thinking about the OSU game? Any chance they let down after the victory over KU?

KSU is getting butt****ed on the foul calls.

All ok state does when they drive is jump into the defender and throw their hands up into the air.

This has nothing to do with fouls. This KSU team lacks size. And good ball handlers. And good shooters.

They aren't going to win a road game like this.

That wasnt the result I was hoping for. Oh well, on to Saturday v Baptist Aggie.

FYP :)

I don't think I've watched an entire road game this year. I'm sure there's a reason for it, but I don't know if I've ever seen such a big disparity in how a team plays at home vs. on the road. Can hang with anyone in Bramlage, but no one outside of it.

at least NCAA tournament play follows your home performance more than the road performance, so we've got that going for us...

You actually spent personal time watching this game?

Yes.

C'mon bitch. You know you watched it. Li'l bro has to watch so they can comment on foul discrepancy, how many "flops" Marcus Smart had, because he's a meanie and he did a back flip once and he said something about cutting nets and Bill Self, and "BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" and storm the court.

I really don't want that 8/9 line.

I missed it, but I would have enjoyed watching Smart beat Bruce and his Wildcats down.

It was a beatdown.

yeah, me either. I've seen us as a 7, but I assume thats dependent on beating Baylor and not exiting KC early.

Unless sand aggie can pull e upset over UT this is the layout for the Big XII tourney

I remember that one time in 2000 when Kansas had to play the first day of the tourney. What an awful memory.

Since Frank came the Cats haven't played on day one. Thanks Frank!

I expect WVU to beat KU on Saturday and be the 6 seed.

Wouldn't surprise me.

Updated through last night.

http://msn.foxsports.com/college-bas...anguage-030614

Frank got suspended for the last regular season game. It's okay when you win, but not okay when you lose. A lot.

It's kind of silly on SC's part, really. They knew EXACTLY, the sort of Coach Frank is. That is his demeanor. A tiger doesn't change his stripes.

Now, if he hits a player, that's a different story. But, the language and screaming? GMAFB

You can do it, as long as you're winning. Frank's in a tough spot now. He had to apologize publicly once this year already. Now, he's on the spot again. Plus he's not working for the AD that hired him. He's working for the former baseball coach turned AD. A baseball coach that won two NC's.

Frank's on borrowed time now.

I hear ya, I just think SC looks foolish for the path they are taking. It's like buying Station Wagon and complaining to the dealer that it didn't handle like a Porsche. Well, THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S A ****ING STATION WAGON!:evil:

Up 12 early in the 2nd half is now a 2 point deficit with 8 minutes to play.

Baptist Aggie is giving Bruceketball fits today.

This. Besides, when you fire Martinstein, who are you going to go get?

May they burn in hell.

I was there yesterday. Wife got great tickets for the game. 1st half was about what I expected, but the 2nd half was a fugging nightmare. Our Seniors we about as bad as they could possibly be on Senior Day. Awful. Outside of Foster and Niño, it was a steaming pile of crap. Not to mention, we had no one who could keep up with Chery - dude is a player!

This is a team that will most likely lose their next two games. Sad finish to a pretty surprising season. Just not enough of anything good and too much of a lot of bad things. Next years Team looks promising. I'm looking forward to having more than 2 posts on our roster. That has been a ****ing killer.

Oh, and having our best returning player completely fall apart as the season went on. That was also a killer.

The lineups we have out there at times cannot score. And regardless of all the "positive Bruce" vibes, this is his where he failed so badly recruiting last season.

Outside of Foster, who the **** can score consistently? Gip? Maybe... When he's not clanking passes off those meathooks. Sprads? No. Shane? No.

Even with the big men recruits we have coming in, I just don't see him putting together a team that will ever be as good as the one Frank left him.

It's my hope he makes a liar out of me, but this year's late season fade + last season's tourney crash + one dependable returning scorer = more of same.

Justin Edwards - tansfer from Maine. Kid can score. It's what he does. Trey Harris is another kid who can score. 6'5" SG. We still don't have a good PG on this team, and I'm NO fan if Jevon Thomas. Do not like his game. I think we start the season without a true PG in the starting lineup.

My Starting 5

Point Forward - Wes Iwundu 6-7 - Nigel Johnson 6-1 (Combo)
Combo Guard - Justin Edwards 6-4 - Trey Harris 6-5
Shooting Guard - Marcus Foster 6-2 - Jevon Thomas 6-1 (PG)
Power Forward - Thomas Gipson 6-7 - DJ Johnson 6-9
Center - Stephen Hurt 6-10 - Brandon Bolden 6-10

Niño Williams obviously has a role, and his game has really improved. I think He will probably be the 1st off the bench. We also are recruiting another mid range Big - a slew of 6-7 slashing type SF/PF's for the last scholarship.

I think we will be a more efficient scoring team next season, with a deeper bench.

Deb Patterson gone?

She Gone.

http://www.kansas.com/2014/03/09/333...turn-as-k.html

Bring her in for a look?

Man. What a difference a coach makes.

Frank overall won 68% of his games at KSU. I think that qualifies as a very good coach.

117-54 overall for Frank.

Rendos.

http://goemaw.com/forum/index.php?to...646#msg1080646

goEMAW breaks another big story. Hope nobody loses their job over it. That stadium is going to be sweet.

Whoa. :drool:

Guess I'm going to the spring game this year...

So Sams at WR next year?

Saul, explain why the pics were removed at goEMAW.com

Saul?

Saul?

Drama. I'll explain via PM.

What drawings? North endzone? Hmm

Tapping foot.....

Renderings, blueprints, you name it.

Congrats to former Wildcat Mitch Ritchmond 2014 Naismith Hall of Fame inductee.

Bruce lands a 4* PF. Malik Harris. Top 100.

Can't get a good read on his game. Looks like a more refined, better put together (physically) Jamar Samuels. Not a great shooter, but looks like a finisher around the bucket. Quick movement with the ball, decent handles, can distribute. No idea about his Defense.

Another Iwundu

No. I think Harris' game resembles more of a future 4, than a 3. Iwundu is more finesse, while Harris has more power.

He has a strange release/shot. It looks like he's playing pop-a-shot.

They do seem to be on target, however. Which is nice.

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His shot looks like it could get blocked easy down low.

The erection is going to last more than 4 hours.

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