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BryanBusby 09-12-2015 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 11720067)
Hostile environment. ROFL

Well to be fair, Jonesboro isn't the friendliest place.

mnchiefsguy 09-12-2015 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 11720067)
Hostile environment. ROFL

Most hostile than playing in Lawrence...and I bet they had better attendance too.

duncan_idaho 09-12-2015 09:25 PM

Man, the defense pulled that one out again. Major credit to Barry Odom, IMO, for the scheme, preparation and execution this defense is showing.

Without the typical, awful Mauk turnovers, I'm pretty confident the defense holds Arkansas State to 10 points (I'll give them the Lock turnover, that was just something that happens. Mauk's INTS were totally avoidable). They held what was a good offense last year - that returned 9 offensive starters - to 217 total yards, and less than three yards per play.

And that's without their best returning defender (Harold Brantley), with one starter kicked off the team, and with a ton of young, unproven guys playing in the trenches up front.

Impressive.

The offense sucked shit again. OL must play better. WRs must play better. RBs must play better (And if Chase Abbington isn't better, right now, than Hunt and Witter, he's just another product of the St. Louis hype machine). And the QB spot must perform more consistently.

Really, Mauk's biggest issue today was the turnover issue. Both were awful and set up easy fields for points.

Bearcat 09-12-2015 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 11720100)
Most hostile than playing in Lawrence...and I bet they had better attendance too.

I don't know what Kansas has to do with it, but I'm sure any SEC team doesn't flinch at playing in front of ~30,000 on the road.

Pitt Gorilla 09-12-2015 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11720112)
Man, the defense pulled that one out again. Major credit to Barry Odom, IMO, for the scheme, preparation and execution this defense is showing.

Without the typical, awful Mauk turnovers, I'm pretty confident the defense holds Arkansas State to 10 points (I'll give them the Lock turnover, that was just something that happens. Mauk's INTS were totally avoidable). They held what was a good offense last year - that returned 9 offensive starters - to 217 total yards, and less than three yards per play.

And that's without their best returning defender (Harold Brantley), with one starter kicked off the team, and with a ton of young, unproven guys playing in the trenches up front.

Impressive.

The offense sucked shit again. OL must play better. WRs must play better. RBs must play better (And if Chase Abbington isn't better, right now, than Hunt and Witter, he's just another product of the St. Louis hype machine). And the QB spot must perform more consistently.

Really, Mauk's biggest issue today was the turnover issue. Both were awful and set up easy fields for points.

I'm worried about the backs. I wonder if it's time to burn Daugherty's shirt.

mnchiefsguy 09-12-2015 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 11720118)
I don't know what Kansas has to do with it, but I'm sure any SEC team doesn't flinch at playing in front of ~30,000 on the road.

For the record, I would not call it a hostile environment either---just pointing out that there was a place less hostile.

Bearcat 09-12-2015 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 11720129)
For the record, I would not call it a hostile environment either---just pointing out that there was a place less hostile.

I would hope Kansas would be most hostile than Arkansas State if Mizzou came to town... but yeah, in general, they haven't really given anyone a reason to give a shit in the past several years.

Mosbonian 09-12-2015 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 11720146)
I would hope Kansas would be most hostile than Arkansas State if Mizzou came to town... but yeah, in general, they haven't really given anyone a reason to give a shit in the past several years.

Of course KU would have to want to play MU for that to happen.

Mosbonian 09-12-2015 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11720112)
The offense sucked shit again. OL must play better. WRs must play better. RBs must play better (And if Chase Abbington isn't better, right now, than Hunt and Witter, he's just another product of the St. Louis hype machine). And the QB spot must perform more consistently.

Really, Mauk's biggest issue today was the turnover issue. Both were awful and set up easy fields for points.

While Mauk didn't really help anyone with his throws tonight, a couple of the Receivers don't seem to have the ability to make themselves a possession receiver. A couple of them look scared to get hit or even try to catch the ball.

As for Witter.....he just doesn't look like he's all that special. For all the hype he received he looks like he has trouble finding the seam.

BTW...what is up with Abbington? I thought he was supposed to be a decent RB?

duncan_idaho 09-12-2015 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 11720127)
I'm worried about the backs. I wonder if it's time to burn Daugherty's shirt.

It might be. At some point, you wonder if maybe they just don't need to try some different guys in game action and see what happens.

Abbington has practiced like shit, apparently (heard Ford was ripping him all week for not being on the two deep yet).

I've heard good stuff about Doherty but asked about him being a redshirt burn this year and was told he's not there from a strength standpoint and still needs some football-specific conditioning (emphasizing fast-twitch movements).

Best hope for help - other than Hansbrough getting healthy - might end up being Trevon Walters' return.

duncan_idaho 09-12-2015 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 11720163)
While Mauk didn't really help anyone with his throws tonight, a couple of the Receivers don't seem to have the ability to make themselves a possession receiver. A couple of them look scared to get hit or even try to catch the ball.

As for Witter.....he just doesn't look like he's all that special. For all the hype he received he looks like he has trouble finding the seam.

BTW...what is up with Abbington? I thought he was supposed to be a decent RB?

He's not practicing well and isn't outplaying Witter or Hunt in practice right now. It's possible he's a product of the St. Louis hype machine.

I don't know that Witter ever received a lot of hype, but he looked last year like a typical Mizzou system back, who would be a very solid producer. He looks slower and less sure of himself in action this year.

KChiefs1 09-12-2015 10:31 PM

Is Steward ever going to get healthy enough to start?

WhawhaWhat 09-13-2015 12:29 PM

Mizzou falls to #22 in the AP Poll from #21 last week. Utah, Arizona and BYU jumped them. That Arrowhead game against the Cougars looking tougher every week.

GloryDayz 09-13-2015 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 11722382)
Mizzou falls to #22 in the AP Poll from #21 last week. Utah, Arizona and BYU jumped them. That Arrowhead game against the Cougars looking tougher every week.

Wow... Good news for them.

KChiefs1 09-13-2015 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 11723949)
Wow... Good news for them.


I hope it's a big national TV game.

KChiefs1 09-13-2015 10:56 PM

Take this with a big grain of salt(source is right 50% of the time):

Word is there will be another redshirt burned on Saturday:

Marquise Doherty

BryanBusby 09-13-2015 11:14 PM

They need to do something. Lack of run game is going to kill them once they enter SEC play.

Pitt Gorilla 09-15-2015 01:06 PM

Trailing by 7 points in the third quarter, Mizzou sent out the following D-line:

True freshmen Nate Howard, Terry Beckner Jr. and Josh Moore. Redshirt freshman Walter Brady provided the experience for the group.

From PowerMizzou.

https://missouri.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1802941

duncan_idaho 09-15-2015 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 11720208)
Is Steward ever going to get healthy enough to start?

It's hard to say. That hip injury was so mysterious and troublesome. I'm hoping so. His skillset was valuable, before he got hurt.

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 11725495)
They need to do something. Lack of run game is going to kill them once they enter SEC play.

More creativity (two-back sets? attached H-back or TE? more jet sweeps? More QB runs) would help.

Better blocking would help, too. Still working out some things on the OL. I'm of the opinion you just move McGovern back inside, where he kicks ass, and open things up on the right side with him and Boehm.

DJ's left nut 09-15-2015 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 11725453)
Take this with a big grain of salt(source is right 50% of the time):

Word is there will be another redshirt burned on Saturday:

Marquise Doherty

If he's ready - burn it.

There's always another tailback. Mizzou can point to a long line of kids that have excelled here and they can just recruit another kid to fill in 4 years from now when Doherty doesn't have that extra year of eligibility.

If he's not ready to play, might as well save it - reports are that the guy's still pretty slight for D1. But if he can withstand the pounding, burn the shirt and get some reinforcements in here.

Steward's not going to recover and the guys around him just aren't that good.

Mosbonian 09-15-2015 08:28 PM

You know the most annoying thing about being in the "other" Columbia? Having to listen to the talking heads claim that Mizzou isn't really all that tough and it is one of the "winnable" road games for the Gamecocks.

KChiefs1 09-15-2015 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 11729508)
You know the most annoying thing about being in the "other" Columbia? Having to listen to the talking heads claim that Mizzou isn't really all that tough and it is one of the "winnable" road games for the Gamecocks.


I guess they are basing that on history?

Mosbonian 09-15-2015 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 11729550)
I guess they are basing that on history?

Actually most of their talk this week is based on "history"...they believe they have a chance in GA because they have given the Bulldogs fits before (mostly at home)....

BryanBusby 09-15-2015 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 11729508)
You know the most annoying thing about being in the "other" Columbia? Having to listen to the talking heads claim that Mizzou isn't really all that tough and it is one of the "winnable" road games for the Gamecocks.

Well it's true. Mizzou really isn't tough right now.

Mosbonian 09-16-2015 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 11729705)
Well it's true. Mizzou really isn't tough right now.

And you think the Gamecocks are?

BryanBusby 09-16-2015 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 11731083)
And you think the Gamecocks are?

They aren't either, but it's still a winnable game and it's not like they are facing an Arrowhead crowd.

Mosbonian 09-16-2015 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 11731289)
They aren't either, but it's still a winnable game and it's not like they are facing an Arrowhead crowd.

I guess I disagree.....they are playing with their 2nd String QB who was, up until this year a walk-on. The back-up is an untested rookie I would compare to Joshua Dobbs his freshman year....potential but unproven.

Their best WR, Pharoah Cooper, is hurt (but still playing) and tries to do too much. The rest of their WR group is just like MU's and maybe even greener.

I would say their RB trio is maybe a little better than ours but that is only because Hansborough is hurt. Their TE and ours are a wash.

Their Defensive front 4 is nothing to write home about....and besides Skai Moore their LB's aren't that good. Their DB's are OK, not bad.

Who knows what their mindset will be by the time we play them...they play Georgia between the Hedges this week and then go home to play UCF.

The one edge I give them without reservation.....their Coach is much craftier than ours. Our Coach sometimes gets conservative protecting a lead while The Ol' Ball Coach can sometimes pull a rabbit out of the hat just to keep you on your toes.....and has absolutely no trouble putting his foot on your throat.

BryanBusby 09-16-2015 10:20 PM

I'm not really arguing on which team is better. It's a winnable game for both sides.

They both have a lot of question marks by this point and it could really go either way. Missouri isn't on a higher plateau than South Carolina right now.

We can't pass block and our best RB is our QB currently. We also wish we were playing the 2nd QB.

Outside of Vandy, I wouldn't call one conference game a slam dunk this year. As of now at least.

KChiefs1 09-16-2015 10:24 PM

****Official 2015 Missouri Tigers Football Thread****
 
Wrong thread.

Pitt Gorilla 09-17-2015 08:32 AM

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article...7-fe5e509347d2

Saul Good 09-17-2015 08:47 AM

Anyone who thinks that we aren't a winnable game on South Carolina's schedule has WAY more confidence in this squad than I do. We should win, but it's about a 60/40 in my eyes.

And Spurrier is a terrible coach at this point in his career. He reallyneeds to hang it up.

Pitt Gorilla 09-17-2015 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11732183)
Anyone who thinks that we aren't a winnable game on South Carolina's schedule has WAY more confidence in this squad than I do. We should win, but it's about a 60/40 in my eyes.

And Spurrier is a terrible coach at this point in his career. He reallyneeds to hang it up.

Agree with all of this. Missouri is, clearly, beatable. Yet, I still think Mizzou beats USCe.

WhawhaWhat 09-18-2015 06:01 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The latest at STLtoday: Beckner, three <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Mizzou?src=hash">#Mizzou</a> teammates, hospitalized for injuries in car accident <a href="http://t.co/LqTAiv2o1M">http://t.co/LqTAiv2o1M</a></p>&mdash; Dave Matter (@Dave_Matter) <a href="https://twitter.com/Dave_Matter/status/645023958232879105">September 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Saul Good 09-18-2015 06:56 PM

He's supposed to play tomorrow, so it must not have been too bad.

Pitt Gorilla 09-18-2015 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 11740340)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The latest at STLtoday: Beckner, three <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Mizzou?src=hash">#Mizzou</a> teammates, hospitalized for injuries in car accident <a href="http://t.co/LqTAiv2o1M">http://t.co/LqTAiv2o1M</a></p>&mdash; Dave Matter (@Dave_Matter) <a href="https://twitter.com/Dave_Matter/status/645023958232879105">September 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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What the actual ****? Car accidents are going to take out our entire D-line.

Stargazer 09-19-2015 12:48 AM

South Carolina is coming off a 6-6 season, and a loss at home already this year against Kentucky. Missouri is coming off a second SEC East title and (despite not looking like world beaters so far) has more momentum as a program right now. Not saying South Carolina can't come in and win, but still.

TribalElder 09-19-2015 01:11 AM

Becker was treated and released at the scene I believe

WhawhaWhat 09-19-2015 10:22 AM

What a joke of a pass.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 09-19-2015 10:26 AM

Mauk will not finish the season as starter

Bowser 09-19-2015 10:26 AM

Hahaha, Christ. For ****'s sake, can we please start the Drew Lock era now?

kepp 09-19-2015 10:28 AM

How long can Pinkel ignore this?
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kepp 09-19-2015 10:30 AM

Radio coverage just said that 4 of the last 5 scores against MU have come off turnovers.
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Rudy tossed tigger's salad 09-19-2015 10:32 AM

Kudos to Mike Mauk for implementing a HS football system that garnered two D1 scholarships for his sons, Ben and Maty

KCrockaholic 09-19-2015 10:37 AM

I'm over Mauk. He's worse than Franklin to me and he'll never get it. Play Drew Lock.

Pepe Silvia 09-19-2015 10:39 AM

I bet he won't even give Lock one series today just to give the fans the finger.

WhawhaWhat 09-19-2015 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 11741494)
I bet he won't even give Lock one series today just to give the fans the finger.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Drew Lock helmet on, warming up behind bench. Looks like he&#39;ll get first series of second quarter</p>&mdash; Dave Matter (@Dave_Matter) <a href="https://twitter.com/Dave_Matter/status/645276247271047168">September 19, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Pepe Silvia 09-19-2015 10:48 AM

Yes, it worked. lol

WhawhaWhat 09-19-2015 10:48 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Through first nine quarters of the season (vs SEMO, Ark St, UConn), Mauk has completed 46.2 % of passes, 4 INTs, 5 TDs</p>&mdash; Dave Matter (@Dave_Matter) <a href="https://twitter.com/Dave_Matter/status/645275230001213440">September 19, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Pepe Silvia 09-19-2015 10:51 AM

****ing Baggett.

WhawhaWhat 09-19-2015 10:51 AM

Disaster.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 09-19-2015 10:51 AM

Lol. Nice .gif moment for Mizzou fan

Bob Dole 09-19-2015 10:55 AM

This team is ranked on name alone.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 09-19-2015 11:04 AM

Hit him

kcpasco 09-19-2015 11:07 AM

What an absolute joke. Mizzou just sleep walking.

Bob Dole 09-19-2015 11:09 AM

JFC. How about some offense?

dlphg9 09-19-2015 11:13 AM

****ing Mauk

KCrockaholic 09-19-2015 11:16 AM

Such a horizontal offense.

Jewish Rabbi 09-19-2015 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 11741555)
Such a horizontal offense.

Between this shit and Alice it's hard to enjoy watching football.

Bob Dole 09-19-2015 11:17 AM

Just painful to watch.

KCrockaholic 09-19-2015 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 11741558)
Between this shit and Alice it's hard to enjoy watching football.

We just have to watch other teams to see what real football should look like.

dlphg9 09-19-2015 11:25 AM

****ing Mauk

Bob Dole 09-19-2015 11:26 AM

Unreal.

tk13 09-19-2015 11:28 AM

If you guys can just get some runners on base in the late innings and get to their bullpen you can win this game.

Bob Dole 09-19-2015 11:29 AM

Mauk shouldn't see the field in the second half.

Jewish Rabbi 09-19-2015 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 11741580)
Mauk shouldn't see the field in the second half.

Agreed. That being said, we'll be lucky to see Lock out there for one more drive.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 09-19-2015 11:36 AM

Pinkel's description of the offense:

"Inconsistent"

BryanBusby 09-19-2015 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 11741558)
Between this shit and Alice it's hard to enjoy watching football.

Just told my wife this. This has a 2012 **** football feeling.

KChiefs1 09-19-2015 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 11741471)
Hahaha, Christ. For ****'s sake, can we please start the Drew Lock era now?


Pinkeled

TribalElder 09-19-2015 12:05 PM

Odd score 6 - 2

kepp 09-19-2015 12:06 PM

Why run directly into the pile?
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TribalElder 09-19-2015 12:06 PM

Just tuning in, wTF today

TribalElder 09-19-2015 12:07 PM

Boom

Bob Dole 09-19-2015 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kepp (Post 11741627)
Why run directly into the pile?
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Because Chiefs...

Oh wait.

kepp 09-19-2015 12:08 PM

Witter has literally NO vision...didn't follow his blockers.
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kepp 09-19-2015 12:25 PM

Pinkel = Reid = Pinkel in regards to offensive playcalling inside the 5 yard line.
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Pasta Little Brioni 09-19-2015 12:30 PM

Jeez

TribalElder 09-19-2015 12:30 PM

Stretch play pleaz

TribalElder 09-19-2015 12:31 PM

Safety part duex

kepp 09-19-2015 12:32 PM

LOL...you have Tyler Hunt running over people and you give it to Witter who goes down when his shoelaces get touched.
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WhawhaWhat 09-19-2015 12:33 PM

Which is team is trying to lose this game the best?


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