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ToxSocks 01-07-2020 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 14703817)
Mahomes vs Watson this week, Mahomes vs Lamar Jackoff next week, followed by Mahomes vs Rodgers in the Superbowl. That's going to be 3 weeks of great football.

Mahomes vs Anyone will get the NFL better ratings than Not Mahomes vs Anyone.

So if we want to conspiracy theory this shit, Mahomes will in fact be in the SB.

Megatron96 01-07-2020 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 14703767)
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Great stats. I was worried they were going to cite Andy's "playoff record," or something else equally meaningless.

The fact that HOU defense has been allowing 71% of opposing team RZ trips to result in TDs is jaw-dropping.

The Chiefs might score a TD on every trip into the red-zone in this game (scoring TDs 68% of RZ trips over the last six games).

KChiefs1 01-07-2020 04:39 PM

Let’s talk about the Texans
 
Shannon Sharpe on the first matchup.

https://youtu.be/uDMJtmq2eD8

Stephen A Smith on the first game.

https://youtu.be/Hf7BisEaN1o

Blueprint to beat the Chiefs.

https://youtu.be/JfgWEu5VEco

Eric Mangini

https://youtu.be/6iSMit14bp0

The Franchise 01-07-2020 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14703822)
Mahomes vs Anyone will get the NFL better ratings than Not Mahomes vs Anyone.

So if we want to conspiracy theory this shit, Mahomes will in fact be in the SB.

The NFL wants that Mahomes vs Rodgers matchup that never happened.

staylor26 01-07-2020 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14703856)
The NFL wants that Mahomes vs Rodgers matchup that never happened.

It’s destiny.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-07-2020 05:11 PM

It’ll be nice to watch Mahomes and Watson go at it this weekend, but I think people who think that this is going to become a January norm are in for an unfortunate letdown.

Which brings me to this — I think it is extremely significant and positive that Mahomes seems to have learned how to just take what defenses are giving. It’s been noticeable to us all — he gets the ball out quicker against pressure this year finding his hot reads and what have ya. Sometimes it’s disappointing to a fan because we love the wow plays that come off script, but this style of ball is winning football that will extend Patrick’s career from being exposed to less hits. There’s a time and place for the special plays (primarily vs. a 3-4 man rush with gaps in the OL to escape through) and I still expect plenty, but when you know a blitz is coming, get that protection right or get that bitch out of your hands quick.

Back to my original point — Watson hasn’t figured this part out. In fact, it’s his greatest weakness. He doesn’t even seem to understand his protections that well, and he isn’t going to get the ball out in rhythm very often. Unfortunately, I don’t see him making it another 10+ years playing at a very high level if he doesn’t protect himself more. Add that to being under BOB, and we may not see many playoff matchups between these two after all.

RedRaider56 01-07-2020 05:18 PM

Don't know if this video has been posted or not. Really well done

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Hammock Parties 01-07-2020 05:31 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some snap count observations from the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>’ week 6 matchup vs. the Texans:<br><br>Rankin - 55/55 O snaps<br>Erving - 55 snaps<br>D-Rob - 48 snaps<br>Pringle - 33 snaps<br><br>Nieman - 87/89 D snaps<br>Wilson - 79 snaps<br>Lee - 45 snaps<br>Claiborne - 33 snaps<br>Terrell McClain - 26 snaps</p>&mdash; Brandon Kiley (@BKSportsTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/BKSportsTalk/status/1214690135180222464?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RaidersOftheCellar 01-07-2020 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hboosboy (Post 14703677)
The media wanted the Texans to beat the Chiefs earlier in the season and they got what they wanted. They want it again. Sorry to tell you, but the Chiefs are going to lose.

No one wants Texans-Ravens over Ravens-Chiefs.

And I don't think that anyone necessarily wanted a Houston win in the previous game. They just wanted a close game.

The Franchise 01-07-2020 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14703929)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some snap count observations from the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>’ week 6 matchup vs. the Texans:<br><br>Rankin - 55/55 O snaps<br>Erving - 55 snaps<br>D-Rob - 48 snaps<br>Pringle - 33 snaps<br><br>Nieman - 87/89 D snaps<br>Wilson - 79 snaps<br>Lee - 45 snaps<br>Claiborne - 33 snaps<br>Terrell McClain - 26 snaps</p>&mdash; Brandon Kiley (@BKSportsTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/BKSportsTalk/status/1214690135180222464?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

87 snaps for Niemann? Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

duncan_idaho 01-07-2020 06:32 PM

Awful lot of shitty tackling at the second level with that defense. Nieman and Lee. Woof.

BigRedChief 01-07-2020 07:20 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is awesome. If you haven’t seen this before, it’s Tyrann Mathieu giving a speech to his Cardinals teammates leading up to the 2015-16 NFC Championship game. You know he’s giving a similar speech to his Chiefs teammates right now, or already has.<br><br>��: allornothingtv on IG <a href="https://t.co/ROMKTcUFSi">pic.twitter.com/ROMKTcUFSi</a></p>&mdash; Farzin Vousoughian (@Farzin21) <a href="https://twitter.com/Farzin21/status/1214641821588107267?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Valiant 01-07-2020 07:21 PM

Hopefully Andy gets them prepared for a physical game. The Texans are going to try and run down our throats and punch us in the mouth. Will be a good test for Baltimore.

Stryker 01-07-2020 08:31 PM

Chiefs win this but who do we want next? Titans @ Chiefs or Chiefs @ Ravens?
Could be crazy either way.

Stryker 01-07-2020 08:33 PM

Ok, let's talk NFC opponents in the SB. Vikings, Seahawks or 49ers?

Stryker 01-07-2020 08:39 PM

I want Chiefs @ Ravens and Chiefs vs. 49ers in SB. Or Seahawks

WhawhaWhat 01-07-2020 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 14704386)
Chiefs win this but who do we want next? Titans @ Chiefs or Chiefs @ Ravens?
Could be crazy either way.


Titans at Chiefs all day but probably won't happen.

smithandrew051 01-07-2020 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 14704391)
Ok, let's talk NFC opponents in the SB. Vikings, Seahawks or 49ers?

I think we want GB all ****ing day. Need to avenge that loss.

Also, we’ve gotten a firsthand look at what they are. Andy has plenty of film on them from our game earlier this year. Their film on our offense is useless, because we didn’t have Mahomes.

Three7s 01-07-2020 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 14704386)
Chiefs win this but who do we want next? Titans @ Chiefs or Chiefs @ Ravens?
Could be crazy either way.

Personally, I want the Titans, but it will probably be the Ravens.

493rd 01-07-2020 09:20 PM

First things first...Houston Texans...

Pasta Little Brioni 01-07-2020 09:21 PM

**** those seven nation army mumbling shit birds

kcjayhawks5 01-07-2020 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 14704391)
Ok, let's talk NFC opponents in the SB. Vikings, Seahawks or 49ers?

I would love to see the chiefs go into Baltimore and beat them again and then beat Aaron Rodgers in the Super Bowl. Mahomes 3-0 against Lamar Jackson and 1-0 against Rodgers (since mahomes was out the first game)

New World Order 01-07-2020 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 14704456)
I think we want GB all ****ing day. Need to avenge that loss.

Also, we’ve gotten a firsthand look at what they are. Andy has plenty of film on them from our game earlier this year. Their film on our offense is useless, because we didn’t have Mahomes.

We want Kirk Cousins LMAO

Hboosboy 01-07-2020 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 493rd (Post 14704484)
First things first...Houston Texans...

Don’t tell them that...according to this board the Chiefs already won this weekend. Lol!

Tribal Warfare 01-07-2020 11:03 PM

Local Forecast: Desaun Gonna Get Raped with a Chance of Rain

thechiefsrback 01-08-2020 01:46 AM

I have all the fate in Mahomes to lead this team to victory. However, I don’t have fate at all in Andy Reid. He gets scared and plays conservative especially when the team has a lead.

milkman 01-08-2020 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by thechiefsrback (Post 14704785)
I have all the fate in Mahomes to lead this team to victory. However, I don’t have fate at all in Andy Reid. He gets scared and plays conservative especially when the team has a lead.

Fate? Faith idiot.

RINGLEADER 01-08-2020 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kcjayhawks5 (Post 14704490)
I would love to see the chiefs go into Baltimore and beat them again and then beat Aaron Rodgers in the Super Bowl. Mahomes 3-0 against Lamar Jackson and 1-0 against Rodgers (since mahomes was out the first game)

I vote for REVENGE TOUR 2020:

- Texans
- Titans
- Packers

lcarus 01-08-2020 02:42 AM

All the Texans games I've watched this year, aside from the game they played the Patriots, I haven't been very impressed. At least not as impressed as I expected to be. We should've beaten them earlier this season. I can't see them coming into Arrowhead and winning again at this point in the season.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 01-08-2020 03:41 AM

Adam Lefkoe from B/R Gridiron says that he has spoken to several Chiefs players from the locker room and they are still heated about the loss last year to the Pats in the AFCCG. Says the two big points are the Chris Jones face mask call and the Dee Ford offsides. They said they believe that they would’ve smoked the Rams in the Super Bowl. They want this so bad. I truly believe that we are winning the trophy this year. Not a damn thing is getting in there way

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 01-08-2020 03:43 AM

Also looks like the weather has gone down when kickoff starts. Was around 45 degrees now it’s expected to be around 38 to 39 degrees

KChiefs1 01-08-2020 08:09 AM

Let’s talk about the Texans
 
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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 14703834)
Shannon Sharpe on the first matchup.

https://youtu.be/uDMJtmq2eD8

Stephen A Smith on the first game.

https://youtu.be/Hf7BisEaN1o

Blueprint to beat the Chiefs.

https://youtu.be/JfgWEu5VEco

Eric Mangini

https://youtu.be/6iSMit14bp0


https://theathletic.com/1517672/2020...ayoff-matchup/

https://youtu.be/tAalzanFnhs



What’s changed since the last Chiefs vs Texans game?

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This season’s second meeting of Deshaun Watson and Patrick Mahomes figures to be a good one. But other than the fact that Houston is once again the underdog, Sunday’s version of Texans-Chiefs at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City will, in many ways, be a different matchup than the one that took place in Week 6, when the Texans won 31-24 on the road.

What exactly will be different? And what should you watch for this time around?

The Athletic’s Texans beat writer Aaron Reiss and Chiefs beat writer Nate Taylor break down the upcoming divisional-round game.

Reiss: Consensus is the Chiefs, who won six in a row to close the year, are a better team now than they were then. So, what’s changed for Kansas City since it last faced the Texans?

Taylor: Quite a bit has changed for the Chiefs since their collapse to the Tennessee Titans on Nov. 10. Most important, the Chiefs have become a disciplined defensive team, which wasn’t the case when these two teams played in October. The Chiefs defense doesn’t make big mistakes, the unit is tackling better, and takeaways are being generated. The other interesting aspect of this game is this will be the first time since the season opener that the Chiefs are expected to be fully healthy.

In their loss to the Texans, the Chiefs were without defensive lineman Chris Jones, linebacker Anthony Hitchens, left tackle Eric Fisher, left guard Andrew Wylie and receiver Sammy Watkins. Even Mahomes was nursing a left ankle injury, so the bye week was critical for the Chiefs’ many veterans.

The Texans haven’t been nearly as lucky. Receiver Will Fuller missed the wild-card game against the Bills. Everyone understands why Fuller is important to the Texans offense, but I feel most people don’t remember that he dropped a few deep passes against the Chiefs in the previous meeting. Assuming Fuller plays, how critical do you believe it is that Deshaun Watson and Fuller connect on deep passes this time around, especially since rookie free safety Juan Thornhill won’t play because of his season-ending left knee injury?

Reiss: The Chiefs ranked third in defensive efficiency against deep passes, according to Football Outsiders, so Fuller will need to make good on the few chances he might get at big gains. Same goes for DeAndre Hopkins and Kenny Stills — especially if Fuller ends up inactive.

Chunk plays will be even more important if Houston gets behind early to Kansas City, which is always a possibility for these Texans. Their 0.98 points per drive in first quarters ranked 29th during the regular season. They fell behind 17-3 to the Chiefs when these teams last played and were down 16-0 to the Bills before mounting a comeback. Those efforts were impressive, but to rely on another one — in Arrowhead in January — seems foolish. The Chiefs rank sixth in overall pass defense efficiency. But I wonder how much of an impact Thornhill’s absence will have on Kansas City’s ability to limit big plays. What do you think?

Taylor: Few people, in my estimation, are as important to the Chiefs defense as Thornhill, who is rangy, has very good ball skills and is a strong tackler in the open field. Perhaps the only players more important than Thornhill on the unit are Jones, defensive end Frank Clark and strong safety Tyrann Mathieu, whom Texans fans know all about.

The player who could replace Thornhill Sunday is Armani Watts, a second-year player who has spent most of the season on special teams. Watts was productive in college, but he’s not as fast as Thornhill in limiting big plays. This will also be Watts’ first playoff game since he sustained a season-ending injury midway through last season. I wonder if the Chiefs will play more Cover 2 than they usually do to try to limit the Texans’ big-play ability.

J.J. Watt wasn’t really a factor in the first game between the Texans and Chiefs. He recorded just two tackles and one quarterback hit. How can the Texans increase Watt’s impact Sunday?

Reiss: The Texans pass rush, in general, did little to bother Mahomes in that game, managing just one sack and two QB hits, but Watt led Houston with four pressures, according to Pro Football Focus. That’s kind of the story of this team: Without Jadeveon Clowney, it’s often up to Watt alone to cause enough havoc for another defender to run into a sack/QB hit.

During the second half of the season, while Watt was on IR because of a torn pectoral muscle, the Texans had arguably the league’s worst pass rush. Defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel had to get creative with his blitz packages to produce pressure. I imagine Crennel will review that Week 6 film in search of more inventive ways to get to Mahomes this time around. And Crennel will be very thankful he once again has Watt for this matchup.

Last weekend, in Watt’s return against the Bills, he played mostly on third downs until the fourth quarter, when Houston let him loose. His red-zone sack in the third quarter limited Buffalo to a field goal and began the Texans’ comeback. If he didn’t look quite like his old self, he was pretty close to it. That took some of the burden off a Houston secondary that’s retooled since Week 6, with the Texans having traded for starting outside corner Gareon Conley and having claimed slot corner Vernon Hargeaves III off waivers. Both are former first-round picks who are still on their rookie contracts.

The Chiefs have their own edge rusher whose recovery from injury has been important to their success. What sort of impact do you anticipate Clark having this time around? Last time, Watson spun away from him for the game-winning touchdown.

Taylor: The Chiefs acquired Clark for these types of games. He even wears the No. 55 jersey, the same number that was donned by Dee Ford before he was traded to the San Francisco 49ers after his season-altering offsides penalty in last year’s AFC Championship Game.

The two months have proven what Clark can do when he’s healthy. During that span, he recorded five sacks and 10 quarterback hits. The biggest difference is Clark has the speed to get past the opposing tackle and can build his moves off his quickness, whether with a spin move or a nifty swim move inside. Similar to many championship-caliber pass rushes, Clark benefits from Jones’ dominance in the interior on passing downs. Plus, the Chiefs acquired 17-year veteran Terrell Suggs via the waiver wire last month. Suggs has shown he can be effective on third down, too.

If defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo wants to support his secondary with several defenders in space to prevent deep completions, Clark will have to lead the way in terms of pressuring Watson so that the Chiefs don’t have to blitz too often.

Reiss: Spagnuolo certainly spread out his defense in Week 6, when Carlos Hyde ran into boxes featuring eight-plus defenders on just 7.7 percent of his carries during a 116-yard effort by the former Chiefs running back who had a career-best season for Houston. Hyde, whom the Texans got from Kansas City in exchange for offensive lineman Martinas Rankin, finished the regular season with 1,070 yards on a 4.4 yards-per-carry average. He ranked 13th in success rate among running backs.

Running the ball well again seems like a possibility for the Texans. The Chiefs finished the regular season ranked 29th in run defense efficiency. Why hasn’t the run defense been part of the defense’s general improvement?

Taylor: The Chiefs’ defense has improved as the season has progressed, but it still struggles at times with opposing running backs, whether on RPOs or as an additional receiver out of the backfield. But during the six-game winning streak, the Chiefs did a much better job against first-down runs.

Along with Jones not playing in the first meeting against the Texans, the Chiefs have since signed Mike Pennel, a veteran player who is hard to move in the middle of the defensive line. Two younger linemen who have improved since October are Derrick Nnadi, a second-year player, and rookie Khalen Saunders. Both probably rewatched film of the first Texans game and wanted to vomit.

Ultimately, the run defense’s issues haven’t been that costly because the offense is starting to resemble the prolific unit it was last year. The Chiefs have built leads early in their winning streak, and that has prevented most opponents from consistently running the ball. This is the greatest fear for most teams in the NFL: You get behind by two scores to Mahomes, and the balance you want to have on offense usually goes out of the window.

Reiss: That’s why the Texans have to avoid their typical slow starts. I already gave you the points-per-first-quarter-drive stat, but if you want another sense of how bad the Texans have been to begin games, consider that backup quarterback A.J. McCarron led them on their only opening-possession touchdown. If he plays in this one, put in an early request for a room upgrade at your Baltimore hotel, Nate.

There is an under-the-radar Texans offensive player who actually could make an impact in this game, though: running back Duke Johson. He averaged 6.5 yards per touch during the regular season, but his usage has been inconsistent. He had 68 total yards on three catches and three rushes versus the Bills last weekend. If Kansas City does a good job of limiting opportunities deep, Watson could look to Johnson underneath.

Taylor: This might seem strange to Texans fans, but receiver Mecole Hardman has the skills and maturity to be a real weapon for the Chiefs. The Texans already have to account for Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins and Travis Kelce. Hardman might be the receiver Mahomes can utilize to create highlights.

Hardman is also a weapon on special teams. He returned a kickoff for a 104-yard touchdown in the Chiefs’ regular-season finale win over the Los Angeles Chargers.

Reiss: So, what’s your prediction? I think this is a shootout for a while, but the Chiefs pull ahead in the end because Kansas City’s defense is better than the Texans’. Even with Watt on the field, Mahomes ultimately puts his team over the top to even his record against Watson, who makes a costly mistake or two more than his counterpart.

Taylor: Like you, the more I think about this game, the more I believe this has the potential to be a fun shootout for fans to watch. The Chiefs, statistically, have the better offense, and Reid usually has new wrinkles after a bye week. The Chiefs should win and get what they wanted when the season began: another shot to reach the Super Bowl by advancing to the AFC Championship Game.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-08-2020 09:50 AM

The 49ers to me, now healthy, are the best NFC team by a big enough margin that I’d prefer they lose in the next 2 weeks.

Green Bay would be my pick. In the first matchup, their corners couldn’t keep up with the Chiefs speed and that position is supposed to be one of their bigger strengths. Another big key IMO is that GB runs a defense similar to the system that Bob Sutton came from, so Andy knows a lot of the rules within what they do probably.

RunKC 01-08-2020 09:51 AM

Listened to Grunhard on the program...I agree with a lot of what he said. Andy has not shown very much motion, jet sweep, option, crossing routes or hitches.

We’re gonna see Tyreek in the backfield a lot IMO. And that’s going to make the Texans safeties nervous as hell.

duncan_idaho 01-08-2020 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14705055)
Listened to Grunhard on the program...I agree with a lot of what he said. Andy has not shown very much motion, jet sweep, option, crossing routes or hitches.



We’re gonna see Tyreek in the backfield a lot IMO. And that’s going to make the Texans safeties nervous as hell.


And off that, should create big play opportunities for Hardman against single coverage or for chunk plays to Kelce in the middle.

Things as simple as motioning Hill to one side and having Hardman run a slice or post in the opposite direction (or even a drag) should be dynamic.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-08-2020 10:02 AM

My ears always perk up a bit when the Chiefs social media team is featuring someone heavily during a week and Hardman is that guy right now... they posted an interview with him about his first playoff experience, and he also posted something yesterday that seemed to indicate he’s being slept on leading up to the game..

They may just unleash him and see if defenses are prepared to deal with all that speed for the majority of a game.

Hammock Parties 01-08-2020 10:12 AM

so andy went to the chiefs social media team and gave away the gameplan LMAO

stevieray 01-08-2020 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 14704794)
Fate? Faith idiot.

He's two posts in, Skip!

.....you're in rare form.

LMAO

p.s. glad you're ok!

Coochie liquor 01-08-2020 10:55 AM

Those Texans fans on that board are out of control. Mahomes and Watson are equal on their best days with a slight edge to Watson being more dangerous?? What the ****??

Mecca 01-08-2020 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 14705100)
He's two posts in, Skip!

.....you're in rare form.

LMAO

p.s. glad you're ok!


You said Skip and I thought Skip Towne was back....

Mecca 01-08-2020 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 14705132)
Those Texans fans on that board are out of control. Mahomes and Watson are equal on their best days with a slight edge to Watson being more dangerous?? What the ****??

They legit think Watson is the best QB in the league.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-08-2020 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14705079)
so andy went to the chiefs social media team and gave away the gameplan LMAO

You don’t think those two departments aren’t very closely connected? I’m not saying he “gave the game plan”, but as I read once from a former NFL exec IIRC, nothing closely related to the team goes up on social media without some sort of insight from the operation.

It’s like last year when Berry was coming back against the Chargers and Reid was non-committal in pressers, but then the social media team essentially confirmed it with their own post.

Hammock Parties 01-08-2020 11:11 AM

gold paint time

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENxg_smX...jpg&name=large

stevieray 01-08-2020 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14705137)
You said Skip and I thought Skip Towne was back....

Milk is Skip by proxy....:hmmm:

neech 01-08-2020 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14705055)
Listened to Grunhard on the program...I agree with a lot of what he said. Andy has not shown very much motion, jet sweep, option, crossing routes or hitches.

We’re gonna see Tyreek in the backfield a lot IMO. And that’s going to make the Texans safeties nervous as hell.

Reid's play book this year has been really tame, Open up your novel from last year Andy and give us the "best of" plays.

mlyonsd 01-08-2020 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14705163)

I'm digging the old school helmet on the 50.

The Franchise 01-08-2020 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14705163)

**** yes.

The Franchise 01-08-2020 12:28 PM

The Chiefs, Seahawks, Titans and Packers each have good enough offenses to feasibly make a run. Still, there's a general lack of defensive fortitude among these groups. I'd feel the most confident about the Chiefs potentially figuring things out enough on that side of the ball to win the whole thing. Kansas City has allowed just 9, 16, 3, 3 and 21 points in five games since their Week 12 bye.

As for the Texans: sheesh. They're attempting to become the first team since the 2002 realignment to win the Super Bowl despite not boasting an above-average offense or defense. The 2012 Ravens (No. 13 in offense, No. 19 in defense) and 2007 Giants (No. 18 in offense, No. 13 in defense) are the only real champions that were as bad as the Texans during the regular season. They'll need Deshaun Watson to continue to put the team on his back in order to pull off the impossible.

tk13 01-08-2020 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14705306)
The Chiefs, Seahawks, Titans and Packers each have good enough offenses to feasibly make a run. Still, there's a general lack of defensive fortitude among these groups. I'd feel the most confident about the Chiefs potentially figuring things out enough on that side of the ball to win the whole thing. Kansas City has allowed just 9, 16, 3, 3 and 21 points in five games since their Week 12 bye.

As for the Texans: sheesh. They're attempting to become the first team since the 2002 realignment to win the Super Bowl despite not boasting an above-average offense or defense. The 2012 Ravens (No. 13 in offense, No. 19 in defense) and 2007 Giants (No. 18 in offense, No. 13 in defense) are the only real champions that were as bad as the Texans during the regular season. They'll need Deshaun Watson to continue to put the team on his back in order to pull off the impossible.

The Niners averaged like 30 a game. It seems like the entire board is discounting them but I think they're probably the most talented team. We just don't know what playoff Jimmy G is going to look like, which is fair.

The Franchise 01-08-2020 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 14705320)
The Niners averaged like 30 a game. It seems like the entire board is discounting them but I think they're probably the most talented team. We just don't know what playoff Jimmy G is going to look like, which is fair.

I cut off the portion about the Ravens, 49ers and Vikings.

Kiimo 01-08-2020 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 14705132)
Those Texans fans on that board are out of control. Mahomes and Watson are equal on their best days with a slight edge to Watson being more dangerous?? What the ****??

I must have missed this board, have a link?

Lilmrp117 01-08-2020 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 14705320)
The Niners averaged like 30 a game. It seems like the entire board is discounting them but I think they're probably the most talented team. We just don't know what playoff Jimmy G is going to look like, which is fair.

Yes. Despite not being a believer in Jimmy G, I do not want to face the 49ers. They have a nice combo of strong D and some nice offensive weapons. I'd rather face any other NFC team if we get to the bowl.

Coochie liquor 01-08-2020 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 14705345)
I must have missed this board, have a link?

https://www.texanstalk.com/threads/t....114884/page-2

FloridaMan88 01-08-2020 01:32 PM

Better be one heck of a “personal reason” not to practice the week of a playoff game and after a bye week...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">CB Morris Claiborne won’t practice today (non-injury), per Andy Reid.</p>&mdash; BJ Kissel (@ChiefsReporter) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsReporter/status/1214967678932271104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BigRock 01-08-2020 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 14705371)

Those posts where they're doubting the Chiefs defense is for real based on the schedule, someone remind them that Denver came to KC and scored 3 points a week after putting 38 on them in their own house.

staylor26 01-08-2020 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 14705392)
Better be one heck of a “personal reason” not to practice the week of a playoff game and after a bye week...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">CB Morris Claiborne won’t practice today (non-injury), per Andy Reid.</p>&mdash; BJ Kissel (@ChiefsReporter) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsReporter/status/1214967678932271104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is why he didn’t play week 17. There’s clearly something going on in his personal life.

RunKC 01-08-2020 02:26 PM

I actually think that Sammy Watkins is the under the radar guy this week. Texans will be in cover 2 and dime all day trying to defend deep.

Kelce and Sammy will eat in the middle of the field

staylor26 01-08-2020 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14705474)
I actually think that Sammy Watkins is the under the radar guy this week. Texans will be in cover 2 and dime all day trying to defend deep.

Kelce and Sammy will eat in the middle of the field

Sammy’s been so ****ing quiet since that week 1 explosion. He definitely needs to step up.

Sassy Squatch 01-08-2020 02:46 PM

We're the only team from the divisional round last year to make it to this year. ****ing nuts.

2019
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2020
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pugsnotdrugs19 01-08-2020 02:49 PM

I watched our last few games on Game pass and I think one of the biggest things that holds Sammy back is unless he’s the 1st read, he just isn’t getting targeted.

The vast majority of plays you have Mahomes hitting Kelce or Hill within his first 2 reads, throwing a screen pass, or getting it out quick in the flats to a RB. There just isn’t much pie to go around for a guy like Watkins.

That said, if you’re getting a lot of 2-high coverage Sunday, I’d look his way often because they don’t have a corner who can cover him consistently and win in contested situations. It’d be nice to scare BAL/TENN with Watkins this week so they might think twice about doubling Hill all the time..

BigRedChief 01-08-2020 02:50 PM

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The Franchise 01-08-2020 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14705477)
Sammy’s been so ****ing quiet since that week 1 explosion. He definitely needs to step up.

Hopefully no dumb dropped passes from him. I want to see the Sammy from Week 1.

Mecca 01-08-2020 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14705513)
I watched our last few games on Game pass and I think one of the biggest things that holds Sammy back is unless he’s the 1st read, he just isn’t getting targeted.

The vast majority of plays you have Mahomes hitting Kelce or Hill within his first 2 reads, throwing a screen pass, or getting it out quick in the flats to a RB. There just isn’t much pie to go around for a guy like Watkins.

That said, if you’re getting a lot of 2-high coverage Sunday, I’d look his way often because they don’t have a corner who can cover him consistently and win in contested situations. It’d be nice to scare BAL/TENN with Watkins this week so they might think twice about doubling Hill all the time..

Everyone is going to be afraid of Hill and Kelce no matter what so those guys are going to draw attention. I wouldn't say it's been done on purpose but the lack of use guys like Watkins and Hardman have seen could lull some teams into a false sense of security about how to play defense.

Megatron96 01-08-2020 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14705477)
Sammy’s been so ****ing quiet since that week 1 explosion. He definitely needs to step up.

Sammy's actually had some big plays in most of the games he's played in this year. He just hasn't had a complete game where's he's neared the numbers we saw in week 1.

But he's come up with some big time catches for first downs, receptions that have made 3rd down more manageable, and at least one 2-point conversion, throughout the season.

Albeit he has had some inexplicable drops as well. And his overall target/catch ratio hasn't been great, IIRC, something like 60%.

St. Patty's Fire 01-08-2020 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14705513)
I watched our last few games on Game pass and I think one of the biggest things that holds Sammy back is unless he’s the 1st read, he just isn’t getting targeted.

The vast majority of plays you have Mahomes hitting Kelce or Hill within his first 2 reads, throwing a screen pass, or getting it out quick in the flats to a RB. There just isn’t much pie to go around for a guy like Watkins.

That said, if you’re getting a lot of 2-high coverage Sunday, I’d look his way often because they don’t have a corner who can cover him consistently and win in contested situations. It’d be nice to scare BAL/TENN with Watkins this week so they might think twice about doubling Hill all the time..

I think Hardman is going to scare teams away from doubling Kelce and Hill consistently

That or he’s going to roast corners in single coverage

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 01-08-2020 03:21 PM

Chiefs signs RB Mike Weber to the practice squad

ptlyon 01-08-2020 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14705565)
Chiefs signs RB Mike Weber to the practice squad

Why the **** didn't you put this in the Tom Brady thread?

FloridaMan88 01-08-2020 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14705513)
I watched our last few games on Game pass and I think one of the biggest things that holds Sammy back is unless he’s the 1st read, he just isn’t getting targeted.

The vast majority of plays you have Mahomes hitting Kelce or Hill within his first 2 reads, throwing a screen pass, or getting it out quick in the flats to a RB. There just isn’t much pie to go around for a guy like Watkins.

That said, if you’re getting a lot of 2-high coverage Sunday, I’d look his way often because they don’t have a corner who can cover him consistently and win in contested situations. It’d be nice to scare BAL/TENN with Watkins this week so they might think twice about doubling Hill all the time..

Agreed.

Seems like intermediate passing plays to WR's in general (even including Tyreek) are not being utilized enough in this year's offense.

Especially if opposing defenses are taking away the deep passing game, get the ball more consistently to Tyreek, Hardman, Watkins, etc. on short passes in open space.

TEX 01-08-2020 03:26 PM

Local Houston media is talking all kinds of noise saying the Chiefs dont respect the Texans and they're looking past them. They're playing the "No Respect" card pretty hard. Bill Maas was on Sports Talk 610am this afternoon, and the local guys were trying to bait him into saying as much. He didn't bite. He said maybe they (National Media & Houston Media) feel that way, but the players know they have a tough opponent coming to town Sunday and will have to play their best to win. He picked the CHIEFS to win, but said it will be hard earned. Said out of the players who missed last game that Chris Jones would have the biggest impact.

The Franchise 01-08-2020 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 14705580)
Local Houston media is talking all kinds of noise saying the Chiefs dont respect the Texans and theythey're looking past them. They're playing the "No Respect" card pretty hard. Bill Maas was on Sports Talk 610am this afternoon, and the local guys were trying to bait him into saying as much. He didn't bite. He said maybe they (National Media & Houston Media) feel that way, but the players know they have a tough opponent coming to town Sunday and will have to play their best to win. He picked the CHIEFS to win, but said it will be hard earned. Said out of the players who missed last game that Chris Jones would have the biggest impact.

Pretty sure this team isn’t looking past anybody after that Titans game. It’s one game at a time until the offseason.

Megatron96 01-08-2020 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14705643)
Pretty sure this team isn’t looking past anybody after that Titans game. It’s one game at a time until the offseason.

^^^^
This.

The Chiefs have gone undefeated since the Titans game, and in every "tarp game" (int. CP misspelling) the Chiefs have dominated.

The Chiefs aren't looking past anyone. Something I've talked about in other threads over the last month, so i won't go into it again here, but bottom line, they are not that kind of team anymore.

Halfcan 01-08-2020 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14705565)
Chiefs signs RB Mike Weber to the practice squad

I enjoy cooking on his grills.

Toad 01-08-2020 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 14705580)
Local Houston media is talking all kinds of noise saying the Chiefs dont respect the Texans and theythey're looking past them. They're playing the "No Respect" card pretty hard. Bill Maas was on Sports Talk 610am this afternoon, and the local guys were trying to bait him into saying as much. He didn't bite. He said maybe they (National Media & Houston Media) feel that way, but the players know they have a tough opponent coming to town Sunday and will have to play their best to win. He picked the CHIEFS to win, but said it will be hard earned. Said out of the players who missed last game that Chris Jones would have the biggest impact.

I gotta fever...
The prescription is NOT more cowbell baby! It’s more Chris Jones!

jallmon 01-08-2020 04:13 PM

Ed Bouchette (Stealers beat writer for Pitt Post-Gazette) was on 93.7 The Fan today. He picked the Chiefs without hesitation. Said the Texans should've lost their last game and couldn't beat KC, with a conviction and certitude that surprised me coming from such a straight-shooter. Made the rest of the work day go better!

Halfcan 01-08-2020 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jallmon (Post 14705694)
Ed Bouchette (Stealers beat writer for Pitt Post-Gazette) was on 93.7 The Fan today. He picked the Chiefs without hesitation. Said the Texans should've lost their last game and couldn't beat KC with a conviction and certitude that surprised me coming from such a straight-shooter. Made the rest of the work day go better!

His son Bobby was a great linebacker.

Lilmrp117 01-08-2020 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14705513)
I watched our last few games on Game pass and I think one of the biggest things that holds Sammy back is unless he’s the 1st read, he just isn’t getting targeted.

The vast majority of plays you have Mahomes hitting Kelce or Hill within his first 2 reads, throwing a screen pass, or getting it out quick in the flats to a RB. There just isn’t much pie to go around for a guy like Watkins.

That said, if you’re getting a lot of 2-high coverage Sunday, I’d look his way often because they don’t have a corner who can cover him consistently and win in contested situations. It’d be nice to scare BAL/TENN with Watkins this week so they might think twice about doubling Hill all the time..

This could be part of what's holding sammy back, but what about when hill was out and sammy was our number 1 for a few weeks? I think there's a problem with sammy, whether it be lack of focus or giving up on plays or something, that holds him back. We all know he has all the potential in the world to be a great WR, but for some reason he can't get it done.

Imon Yourside 01-08-2020 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 14705677)
I enjoy cooking on his grills.

I remember when grillin with weber was a bad thing.

KChiefs1 01-08-2020 04:30 PM

Chiefs/Texans postgame.

https://youtu.be/ovXTv2o4Cw0

AndChiefs 01-08-2020 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 14705580)
Local Houston media is talking all kinds of noise saying the Chiefs dont respect the Texans and they're looking past them. They're playing the "No Respect" card pretty hard. Bill Maas was on Sports Talk 610am this afternoon, and the local guys were trying to bait him into saying as much. He didn't bite. He said maybe they (National Media & Houston Media) feel that way, but the players know they have a tough opponent coming to town Sunday and will have to play their best to win. He picked the CHIEFS to win, but said it will be hard earned. Said out of the players who missed last game that Chris Jones would have the biggest impact.

I was listening on my way home from work. Said our rosters were basically comparable and our defense is only ranked higher because of our “weak” schedule.

Hammock Parties 01-08-2020 05:17 PM

Texans radio guys were quivering in fear over Hardman and Hill about 30 minutes ago on 610.

We're going to smoke these clowns.


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