Pro Football Network's Tony Pauline reports the Saints "like" TCU WR Jalen Reagor and "would consider" him at No. 24 overall.

You can’t take both. One or the other.

Hell, our defense pretty much had our division's offenses under control after the Titans game.

Add Chase Young to that? Against rebuilding offensive lines in Denver and LA? And a confused, ineffective QB/coach in Vegas?

That's what makes the idea of drafting a DE so intriguing. I know Chase Young is in a class by himself, but it's not uncommon to find grand slam picks in all areas of the draft, where you least expect them.

Sure I can... My answer is "both" of them keep coordinators up late at night.

Ruiz, or Dobbins

Young is the modern day version of Lawrence Taylor IMHO.

Problem with Chase Young is that in the biggest games he was just average

Was he getting double and triple teamed ??

Here's a wacky idea, what if Damien Williams is on the trading block for more draft capital

Some talk that Logan Wilson May sneak into the first round

That seems like it would be a very serious reach.

Apparently the nfl holds him in high regard

Riddick said one gm said he’s a better prospect than Vander Esch

I don't think he has that kind of speed or cover ability, I see him as a pure strong side guy that plays the run well but is a bit limited.

I really want to see us end up with Antonio Gibson. Would be a lot of fun!

Nah if you are picking 1 player, its Henry Ruggs, that would be the equivalent of playing Madden with your buds in a franchise and they're like....why are you taking another WR, "players ratings pop up after the draft" oh you ****ing dick another 99 speed? are you kidding me?

I’m a huge Logan Wilson fan and even I think that’s a reach....

he's creeping into the third in the consensus mock drafts, but yeah.

This I definitely don’t agree with. He’s rock solid in coverage and has a knack for getting his hands on the ball.

However, the 1st is too early for him IMO.

If I’m picking one player regardless of draft slot.....it’s ****ing Chase Young.

Young - Jones - Nnadi - Clark

That rivals the 49ers defensive line from last year.

I’d be happy with him in the third if we miss out on Murray, Queen or Gay.

I think he's a good player, like I could see him being a little bit better than Damian Wilson was for us last year, but he isn't a guy that moves with the fluidity and start and stop skills as some of the other backers.

We should just use our first 2 picks on Queen and Gay because nothing would be funnier than having a Gay Queen on defense.

Can I again speak to this "The Chiefs need more draft picks!!" narrative?

Again - the Chiefs have a pick in each round through the first 5. The 49ers, by contrast, have no picks in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th rounds. They have 2 5s, a six and 2 7s.

Those are throwaway picks for a SB organization w/ a deep roster. They have 5 picks on day 3 that flat out don't !#@#ing matter for a good team because 3rd day picks are going to struggle like crazy to make the roster.

The Rams and Steelers and Texans and Bears all have more picks than the Chiefs and their picks mostly suck. This idea that we have less capital than the Bills because the Bills have 7 picks is silly.

The Chiefs aren't in an amazing draft position, no. They aren't the Dolphins or anything crazy like that. But they also returned almost an entire SB roster and had a great rookie class last year. The idea that they need to just go get as many picks as they can is folly. They need as many good players as they can get and adding 3rd day picks to move down 10-12 spots isn't going to do that.

If you can snag a pick in the 3rd round to trade back a handful of spaces - go ahead and do that. But anything in the 5th or later is worthless to this roster and this team. Those are wild cards and you can use UDFA and street FAs to fill those roster spots just as effectively.

If there's a surplus of teams looking to move down and the 'value' is being suppressed because of it, take advantage of that. Look to move UP at that point. But don't just fall prey to this idea that more = better. If the value isn't there, don't move back and end up drafting Spithood instead of Olshanski so you can get some late round pick that turns into Samie Parker.

The only reason that I could see us needing more picks is because Veach likes to move around. And that’s harder to do when you only have 5 picks. Now maybe he only comes out of this draft with 4 players because he trades away a 4th or 5th to move up for a player.

There are going to be UDFA's that have better careers than the 6th and 7th round picks so I'm not worried.

I think you’re selling him short. Dude is a former safety and is much more of a natural in coverage than any LB we had playing significant snaps last year.

Always.

The limiting factor for this team is ultimately going to be roster spots. It's a championship team that made it a point to bring back as many key contributors as possible.

If you try to squeeze guys like Washington and Ta'amu on this roster, we're talking about maybe 5 'open' roster spots. And sure, there are always a few surprise cuts of veteran players but those were contributors last year - they're not gonna be replaced by some 5th round pick. That's where you backfill from your 1st and 2nd day picks to create some cap space.

The back of this roster is just gonna be awfully tight and when you consider guys on future deals we had last year, practice squad stashes we've forgotten about (Fortson, Senat), IR guys we squirreled away like Lovett (and Speaks) - well there just isn't a shitload of room.

If you take 3 or 4 players on the 3rd day, the odds of them being any more likely to matter long-term than guys we squirreled away on the PS last year or can sign as priority UDFAs this year are just damn remote.

We're fine. Are there consequences of having fewer late picks? Sure - but The Franchise got the key one; Veach is just more limited on his trade-ups. That isn't a consequence that's alleviated by taking whatever you can get to move down from 32, risking your return and punting a cheap 5th year all in the name of trying to scoop up back of the roster chaff.

I believe because of the new CBA, you get 55 spots now.

Yep. And two more active players on game day. Plus larger practice squads too.

Flip down Spotrac and tell me how many clear spots you see up for grabs.

First 4 picks are gonna make the team. So you can probably turf guys like Ryan Hunter.

But even at 55, roster spots will be at a premium unless/until you start getting into moving on from guys who have disappointed like DoD. And are you really gonna be excited about cutting DoD in favor of some 6th round pick?

It's just shuffling deck chairs at that point. Ultimately I just don't understand the utility of devaluing your best asset in the name of acquiring redundant and/or superfluous ones.

Nah I agree with you, I assume one of those spots is given to Taamu as the 3rd QB.

Where I think we could see change...I expect a RB to be drafted and with all the RBs, I think that is a wide open spot I think we could see Damian Williams and the rest of the group as all new guys. Darrell Williams Darwin Thompson they haven't earned anything at this point.

Lovett probably has a shot at Yelders spot, the 6th WR spot, backup OL per usual...LB's kinda open but there isn't a ton that's for sure.

Kemp's rehab must have gone poorly. He was a cinch to make the roster last year and then they didn't even extend him an ERFA tender (which would've been minimum). There's gotta be a developmental WR added to the roster somehow, even if it's just Fortson. And yeah, there's gonna be some RB turnover.

But at a point they're all pretty damn fungible.

People worried about Veach’s ability to move around, don’t forget that they anticipate having a couple compensatory picks next year. The Chiefs will likely be drafting at the bottom of rounds for the foreseeable future, so dangling a future pick or two as ammunition to move up a few spots to get a guy they want in any given round this draft can be something I expect the Chiefs to do if one of “their guys” is within reach.

Except teams know that they’re going to be picking at the end of each round.....so the value of those picks are going to be less.

Here's what I think about the best linebackers in the draft: they are all too small to play linebacker.

Like I said earlier, Logan Wilson is very underrated in coverage. Dude is a former safety with ballhawking ability.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EV44tkNW...g&name=900x900

So 6'3 and a half and 238 is to small to play LB uh ok.....there are a ton of high level LB's smaller than him.

They’re all too small to play LB?

I hope that’s a joke...

If he really thinks that he isn't aware of how the game is played today, there aren't 260lb LB's anymore.

It’s like they expect all LBs to be bigger than 250. This isn’t the NFL in the 80s.

Yea I wanna see a team get big ass LB's like that, they'd get roasted by RBs and TEs in the pass game all ****ing day.

Yeah but there are still limits.

I kinda think you need to be at 240 or above to be a true 4-3 Mike. And I think you need to be at 225 to be a Will.

Obviously that's a rough guideline but it's not a bad proxy for functional strength.

In my attempts to justify why I continued to prefer Queen to Murray I've decided I don't anymore. They're just different players and I like 'em both equally. If they're both there I think I'd probably lean towards Murray at this point because I think he is a little more versatile.

See we differ, I value Queens coverage ability above anything Murray does. Like I think Murray could be similar to DeMario Davis who was an all pro so it's not like I'm knocking him or anything.

I like Murray because it would move Hitchens to WLB and Wilson to SLB.

Queen would be great but I think you’d be running to WLBs at that point. It’d work in the nickel. Not sure about the base 4-3.

How often are you even in base these days.

I get that. But Murray can cover the base and nickel.

It’s not say Queen couldn’t. I’m like DJ....I’d take either one in the 1st and let Spags figure it out.

My post is a joke about Bob McGinn, his writeup is all about how small everyone is

I'd kill for Simmons on the Chiefs.

I wish someone would post his writeups for us, the athletic is free right now anyway.

Which position group do you want

LB or CB

DB, RB, EDGE, IOL please!!!

I'm sure it's already been mentioned...but one thing that's nice about being done in the 5th round (if that's going to be the case) is that we can start executing the UDFA strategy earlier than other teams still drafting.

Unless someone just blows you away with an offer at 1.32, I'm just taking BPA and moving on.

The only one I've seen is the WR/TE one, me and staylor are junkies for that shit.

Not a lot, but being able to be and still stop the pass would be hugely beneficial.

Like how the 9ers used to be able to somewhat do with Willis and Bowman etc.

More picks allows more flexibility in the draft. Also, more picks puts less pressure on the GM to get each selection "right". It's okay to miss on a late 3rd or 4th rounder when you hit on a 6th, which the Chiefs have done several times since Reid became the HC.

Take away those two picks and it's much more difficult to fill out your draft class.

Fenton, LDT and Fulton were all 6th rounders and while Fenton performed well during his rookie season and the book is yet to be written on his career, Fulton and LDT were most certainly hits.

As I've been saying for the past month, the UDFA market is going to be absolutely insane because teams weren't allowed facility visits nor were they allowed medical exams and physicals. There will be an enormous amount of talent but there will be questions surrounding most of those players, mainly due health. It wouldn't surprise me at all if many UDFA's end up getting larger contracts than many 6th and 7th rounders.

In case you missed it, Veach addressed it with Peter King, which was featured in his interview yesterday but hasn't seen any traction around here, for whatever reason:

“You hit the real story behind the draft,” Chiefs GM Brett Veach said last week. “The biggest challenge for most staffs this year will not be in the draft, but [in undrafted] free agency . . . It’ll certainly be a story for years to come for all draft rooms, how it all went down.”

Here’s my prediction:

In the first round of the 2020 NFL Draft, the Kansas City Chiefs will select...A 2021 SUPER BOWL ****ING CHAMPION!!!!!!!!!

I think Queen shows want to in the run game so I think there's a good chance he becomes a complete player, he's 20.

LB

EDGE / DE

RB

Guards and centers:

WR / TE:

The more I read about him, Swift would be a damn nice piece in this offense.

Re: Bob McGinn article on the LB’s.

Like I said, I don’t see a lot of later round guys starting. Wanna get a guy who can start early 3 downs? Gotta probably take that player with one of the first 2 picks.

Probably spoiler tag those to make them easier to read/scroll through.

Antonio Gibson has become my 4th round draft crush.

I don't think Veach would take him in the 3rd but man he presents some fascinating wrinkles for Reid to work with.

So if Murray, Queen and Delpit are there at 32. Who are you taking?

He sounds like the perfect RB for this offense.

1. Grant Delpit, S
2. Robert Hunt, OG
3. Logan Wilson, LB
Use your 5th to trade up in the 4th.
4. Antonio Gibson, RB/WR

Fill in with some UDFAs and run that shit back.

I heard that Gibson is getting a lot of hype from inside the league and has propelled himself from 3rd rd to late 2nd. I’ll have to find the tweet, but it said everybody loves this kid.

Maybe that could be our guy at 63? Just don’t see him being there at our pick in the 3rd.

Bob McGinn likes Zach Baun but not in the first.

The fact that we go 32 makes the pick in the Bleacher Report mock make more sense though.



edit: lol he says again that he is borderline too small

CB isn't out yet that I can see

DON'T MAKE ME CHOOSE!!!!!

Honestly, if I were actually in the room and it's my job, reputation and livelihood on the line, I'd probably chicken out and go with the super high character guy w/ the high floor and obvious position.

So I'd go Murray.

I'd probably hate myself for it because I think there's a real chance that Delpit could be the bigger difference maker. Queen is the same story but w/ a more obvious starting role at the Will.

But everything about Murray just seems to lock into place so well. Leadership, coachability, size, athleticism, versatility (both positional and tools) - He may not check every box the boldest, but he checks EVERY box.

I find myself in a very odd spot in this draft - I almost always favor upside, especially early in rounds. But for whatever reason in virtually all these analysis, I've been leaning towards the higher floors.

I would probably take Queen, love the upside, youngest player in the draft with a ton of tools and I trust our coaching staff to get the most from him.

Murray isn't some bum, his peak is DeMario Davis, that dude is an all pro.

Well it makes sense, we just won the SB, we don't need a lottery ticket with high upside in this draft we just need to not miss.

The thing with Murray is that he could be the potential 8 year anchor in the middle of your defense ala Luke Kuechly.

I mean I highly doubt Murray will fall to us but if he did I think I'd want him too

Wonder if Veach will trade up for Murray or Queen if they’re there in the 24-26 range.

Probably take next year's 2 to get any meaningful traction. I'd rather keep this year's 2 and 3 given the depth of the class.

I'd probably just spin the wheel and take my chances, though. With so many good CB options and even possible DE guys that could slip, your consolation prize is likely to be pretty good.