Dude, you you ever read yourself, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!

Sit down half pint and shut the **** up, ok?

The second leading receiver on the Colts in 2019 was a RB, he caught 44, more than any Chiefs RB.

Our RB's were a revolving door last year. D Will got hurt, Darrel Williams went to IR, McCoy got benched, and Darwin got touches later in the year. Shoot, we were so depleted at one point we signed Spencer Ware off the street and he was getting reps. Then he got hurt. So that might of had something to do with it.

How bout we wait a few years and see how their careers pan out before we start patting ourself on the back?

Just a suggestion . . . . .

i know so what do we need, how about a guy who never gets hurt, can haul a heavy load, and has proven to be a total stud since day one.

CEH has had injuries problems. And all that shuckin' and jivin' won't work at the NFL level, we need a cut and go and .....gone. CEH will get ran down.

Take this...

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Did you even watch that?

Dude, he's pretty high on Taylor.

Here ya go...


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A knock on on JT was his heavy work load in college, lotta milage. On the flip side, CEH wasn't used near as much. That bolds well for longevity.

JT cant cut his routes like CEH. You know that's true.

Simms was gushing over CEH just today and said he's the best back in the draft. So there you go.

Stephen A isnt a football guy. You know that.

Clydro is a modern rb with low mileage on a cap friendly deal. Its not hard to undersatand.

I'm off to bed. Good night CP brethren! God bless you all.

But I am, have seen them all since Jim Brown, in Taylor we have that size/speed combo like a Herschel Walker, Bo Jackson, Marcus Dupree. The guy has never missed a game.

And you pass on that, WHAT????????????

Dude.....22.....year old kids here, what work load? I could play the game party all night, get maybe two hours sleep and hit it again ......work load???????

So many of you here simply don't get this at all.

I'm getting a headach trying to bring some reality into this.

I guess it will take,....damn Taylor is tearing it up and we could have had him....before ya figure it out.


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poster...what the hell is wrong with you Ubeja ya dumb ****, so what if the guy is 228 pounds, runs a 4,3, a Doak Walker winner twice, can he do the spin move?
Ubeja....ha!

Andy Reid does not at all run the offense as the offense the backs you listed were a part of - the game has changed since their eras, and Andy's offense is a big reason for that. In many ways, this decision isn't CEH or Taylor, but Mahomes or Taylor - and Andy's going to prioritize everything by what's best for his quarterback.

I'm okay with that.

The game hasn't changed at all, just ask the SB Niners who ran ran and ran.

Facts


The best running teams are winning far more often this season and the most prolific passing teams are losing much more.

Baltimore (11-2), San Francisco (11-2), Seattle (10-3), Minnesota (9-4) and Buffalo (9-4) are ranked Nos. 1-5 in average yards rushing per game. Their combined record is 50-15.

Wait, who was it that won the Super Bowl and what kind of offense did they run? Their offense is a little different than previous eras, huh? I'm guessing they want to find players who can best work in that offense.

A 5-11 228 pound 4,3 burner can't catch a pass? Really?

Taylor gets a step, he's gone, that can't be said about CEH.

Look, I liked Taylor myself and would have been happy with him, Dobbins and to a lesser extent Swift. BUT, Clyde is special man. Clyde has genuine receiver skills and his agility and spin/stop-start moves are unmatched in this draft. Taylor is a back that needs carries and punishes the defense...Clyde is a finesse type of back who can create for himself and also be a nightmare in the passing game. Taylor is an intriguing talent but he had a thousand carries in college, isn't a great catcher of the ball and had bad fumble issues...those are the facts at the end of the day.

One of the better posts here!

CEH had 3 catchs as a frosh
11 as a soph

So he must not be able to catch the ball.

We don't know if Taylor can catch until like CEH they start throwing to him, I bet he can.

And you get a 228 pound 4.3 guy out in space he is one step from.....see ya!


Will be interesting watching how these two do nexr season and for a career.

I will call it wrap with a guy who nailed it. Take notes, no foaming at the mouth, no name calling, yep......class!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah we'll see if Taylor can improve his receiving skills but I think the Colts are likely to use him as a downhill runner like he was in college. Clyde's receiving skills come from him actually playing WR in highschool as he was in the same team as Darius Guice who obviously was a top rated back and got drafted high by Washington not too long ago. So that;s why Clyde is such a good receiver because he actually played the position before.

Look at the performance against Bama. Holy Shit!


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Maybe. I just know Reid said CEH could be a better Westbrook and as others have pointed out Westbrook in his prime caught 73,61,77,90, and 54 passes.

In regards to Taylor he maybe end up great but I am wondering if he has the stigma that alot of supposedly great Wisconsin RB's have had and that once they get to the NFL they aren't very good because in most cases Wisconsin's OLine dominates teams. James White and Melvin Gordon are good backs just not great ones.

Also I like to look to see how players performed in the biggest games and there is no question CEH performed better in 2019 and did it against NFL type talent and teams.

Taylor:
vs Michigan 203 yds and 2 TD's
vs OSU 52 yds
vs Iowa 250 yds
vs OSU 148 yds 1 TD
vs Oregon 94 yds

CEH:
vs Florida 134 yds 2 TD's
vs Auburn 136 yds 1 TD
vs Alabama 103 yds 3 TD's and 1 Receiving TD
vs Georgia 57 yds
vs Oklahoma 2 carries 14 yds in an absolute blowout
vs Clemson in NC game 110 yds

Well, ignore doesn't work if y'all keep trying to talk sense into this chucklehead.

How about the mods remove him from this thread?

If he wants to pine for the Colts running back he can start a new thread.

I'd like to pop in here and talk about Clyde, the Fresh Prince of Helaire.

Under Reid, the Chiefs have already drafted a 5'11, 227 lb back with 4.37 speed and notorius fumbling problems in college...Knile Davis. Im guessing Reid didn't want to revisit that well.

Clydro DESTROYED Diggs this game. This game may have dropped Diggs out of the 1st round all together. So happy happy we picked up Clydro, STUD!

LMAO You realize that was a joke right. Taylor had a serious fumbling problem in college... There's no way Andy was going to draft him after sitting Shady for those issues...

This.

A certain poster is going to look very stupid after 2-3 years.

No one has reported him, and we don't read every post. :shrug:

Can we romper this turd again? Idk if we can handle the idiocy of this fool and No Show at the same time.

Looks stupid now, never mind the future

5 foot 8 207lbs and he runs through people and often doesn’t even go down, he looks like a cross between Sproles and ironhead Hayward , he made that def his bitch

It is interesting choosing Jonathan Taylor as the sword to die on. 18 fumbles in 41 career games probably dropped him below Swift, Dobbins and possibly Akers and Moss for KC.

926 rushes compared to only 42 receptions in college make it pretty simple why he isn't in KC. CEH >>> JT.

And his fumble in the divisional round (NE) essentially swung momentum when KC was in Patriot territory.

You would think Chiefs fans would recognize the value between a Charles type talent and what KC has trotted out the last season and a half.

I like Williams...but the system helps him...not the other way around. JC raked up 5.0 YPC when teams knew he was getting the ball...

I'd rather we just had him put down.

Falling absolutely in love with this pick! At the time I wanted Swift, but it's clear to me we made the right choice now.

Swift is a great all-around back, will probably be a feature back, but there's nothing eye-popping or unique about his game. He's very good.

Clyde, on the other hand, is 5'7 and ~210 lbs!!! With his change of direction skills, instincts, and short-strided shiftiness in that frame, he's going to be very difficult to reconcile. Not too mention his catching ability in Andy's offense and the pairing with Mahomes...Because he's so unique, he will cause defenses fits!

not sure if previously posted but here's a great video on CEH:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO9KlH09PC4

Honestly that one game against the best program in football is all any sane person should need to see. Just wow. Those hands.

He had a pretty good knack for getting Burrow out of trouble. When Mahomes and CEH get on that much of the same page it'll be devastating.

Kollman is the shit. I could watch his stuff all day.

Definitely must watch stuff.

Kollman actually ruined a couple of the Chiefs podcasts I follow. I still like the guys, but from an analysis POV I realized they don't know jack shit. With Kollman I feel like we're almost getting to the level that active NFL coaches talk about plays and players. Either that or he's just way way better at sounding smart than my podcast guys.

Any more recommendations of guys like Kollman out there are appreciated.

Thats what I love about CEH...he can create when things break down. He's not the track star Charles was but he is able to make people miss in tight spaces.

That's crucial if/when the Chiefs Oline is hit with a key injury or two and/or is facing a formidable defensive front (likely the case throughout the playoffs and SB).

Basically, no matter what the variables are, CEH looks like a guy that make a big play for you when you need it most. I didnt see that intangible with the other top RB prospects, especially Taylor.

His crap should NOT be in this thread. Period.

I love that HEC will be lining up next to Mahomes this year. With that said the grumblings from the pundits about picking a RB over a DB grab my attention. It begs the question of what do they think of Breeland and Ward? Those guys played really well down the stretch.

In conclusion, I just have to wonder if their real concern is the fact that Mahomes not only has the best TE and WR's in football, but also a star in the making running routes and shaking-baking out of the backfield. I smell fear. Just a thought.

CEH's spin is stupid good.

At just over 200 lbs he is light. He is the same size as Darwin Thompson. He will have to bulk up to handle being a 3 down back. If any RB is not a 3 down back they are not worth a 1st round pick.

He played against NFL defenders all season long and into the post-season. Not sure what the worry is here.

Was Marshall Faulk not a 3-down back?

:facepalm:

Bulk up? Dude has more muscle than McCaffrey and Kamara and they’re all about the same weight give or take a few pounds.

This a joke right? Dude squatted more than Saquon Barkley. Remember Maurice Jones Drew and how yoked he was, yea CEH is 1 pound heavier than him. They are identical in height as well. So please quit your bitching

Jamaal Charles was 199 lbs.
Christian Mccaffrey is 205 lbs.
CEH is 210.

Kollmann actually started a podcast but I haven’t listened to it yet.

Barry Sanders was 5'8 and 200 lbs when he played aswell.

That spin move is a very rare trait. To spin and not lose momentum or balance is really something. Best I ever seen was Marshall Faulk and I say Clyde's spin move is in that conversation. And he leaps over the pile like Priest Holmes. He's kind of a mixed bag of great players and that's what makes him his own.

I imagine you're extremely pleased!

I am too. We got a great football player. And a promising fatty later.

This is why it makes sense to draft a guy like CEH. From our own GM's mouth.


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With Clyde Edwards-Helaire every play Chiefs run has potential to be a Touchdown. Not that it wasn't before but still this is the most potent offense in Football history. He can gash teams up the middle and around the corner I mean to say ****ing A.

Im gonna listen to Andy Reid, Eric Bieniemy, and Brett Veach on rbs, over a guy that isn't even the triva king of chiefsplanet!

Hahaha!!

Does Andy actually like a committe? He didn't with JC and Hunt.

I think it may have more to do with the fact that most of them think we lost Fuller who was a starting CB, which he wasn't.

They also have to follow their own arbitrary rules they made up when the Giants took Barkley over franchise QBs. The jury is still out on those QBs other than Lamar but when you pound the table about RBs in this day and age you make all these hard lines in the sand and then freak when people cross them.

The fact is you shouldn't look at rounds at all, you should view the drafts like tiers.

Also draft grades are hilarious for a variety of reasons but one of the least talked about is how somebody should be graded for who they choose over which players and at what position.

Far too many times some moron will give all the teams that draft high higher grades than teams who draft late. Like, duh, of course they get more talented players.

But getting the top RB on your board at 32 is a ****ing STEAL and admitting that would look like backpedaling and these idiots make a living on being right.

Unless you're wrong enough that nobody listens to you anymore, like Cian Fahey or the PFF guys very very soon.

I'm not sure if Steve Palazzolo will ever recover after that absolute ABORTION of a mock draft that he then doubled down on on Twitter

I think it's more that most people aren't Chiefs fans and don't follow them as in depth as we do. Most pundits simply lack in depth information and just go with common narratives.

Charvarious Ward isn't a household name. He graded at well and performed admirably for us, but he's a nobody on the national level.

Bashaud Breeland is viewed as a journeyman. So even though he played well for us, no one really knows who he is either.

And Rashad Fenton might as well not even exist even though i think he really came on for us late last season and made Fuller expendable. He's going to be a good player for us.

So when you don't know dick about the team aside from Mahomes is God and Tyreek is freaky fast it's easy to look at corner and claim it's a need. No one has heard of Ward or Fenton and those who know Breeland's name probably dont have a high opinion of him.

Pretty much everyone I've seen breaking down the draft in depth says we panicked and took Helaire because Gladney was our guy and Zimmer sniped him, that is basically the perspective everywhere else.

Gladney is 5'10 and plays a lot slower than he times. He'd be our #3 corner at best but instead we got a 5 year starter and rookie of the year candidate.

which is reeruned because they knew it was gonna happen and the Chiefs weren't interested in parting with a 5th round pick to leap in front

I think everyone else thinks the Chiefs need a CB way worse than they do, also it's become pretty obvious that with Spags and Sam Madison they like these guys with peak athletic traits that they can work with.

Idiots. If they really wanted Gladney that bad they would’ve made a move for him. The Vikings taking him after going WR at 22 was about as oblivious as it gets.

I absolutely love that they hedged their bets grabbing both Sneed and BoPete. That’s a great way to handle it after missing out on days 1 and 2 at the position. One of those guys should work out IMO.

I never saw it with Gladney. Don't think they needed a slot corner.

Sneeds jump off the field athletic traits mixed with his experience at both secondary spots made him a guy I thought would be high on the Chiefs board.

I know absolutely nothing about BoPete, other than Jim Nagy saying he thinks he's better than Charvarious Ward was when he saw each of them down there.

Lol yep I'm very happy indeed :evil: . We had our battles when it came to thoughts on rb's and the line, but i'm happy Veach and co addressed both areas of the team. What excites me most about CEH is he is way more than just a pass catching back...he's got genuine wr skills having played that position in highschool and his agility is on Barry Sanders/Marshall Faulk level so it's gonna be interesting to see how defenses cope with this kid.

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People wanted us to draft that guy too. I'd rather have the guy that embarrassed him.

Gonna be hilarious when CEH and Gay are stand out rookies putting up good numbers. I seriously think these 2 are going to look really good this year. They’ll both start and be utilized by excellent creative coaches.

Can’t wait

Gay is going to be a situational missile to start and I can't wait.

A friend of mine told me that the Gay pick sucks because "he didn't play in any games and he's an asshole"

Why are people so caught up in that? Of course this is the same dude that doesn't like Tyreek and repeatedly will say I don't cheer for him and can't wait till he's not here anymore.

Considering Veach said they knew CEH was their target an hour before the draft started, that's a stupid ****ing take.

That's when you say I can't wait till you aren't here anymore, you dumb bitch.

i do hope they use the kid right, not a fan of line banging for him. Get him on the edges, out in space.

Kid has some serious quicks, use that talent, Williams can bang for 3.

We hope that someone leaves Ubeja Vontell at the firestation.