That's not a goose...

That's the convenient tap dance the media does. If Brady does poorly it's because of a lack of weapons. If he does well, it's all Brady.

There's a song in there

It’s definitely a song, one of the greatest of all time.

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And the national media claims to be objective. ROFL

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When your boy is getting shut out in an important game and all you can bring up is that he’s thrown a couple far passes to no body. <a href="https://t.co/qIrvjbPaOm">pic.twitter.com/qIrvjbPaOm</a></p>&mdash; Steve Kelly (@karbala502) <a href="https://twitter.com/karbala502/status/1472780661551476737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Brady says "Go F@#$ yourself" to Saints bench, classy:

https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/s...1_c10&ref_url=

Half of Brady's rings or more are a product of his defense and not him. He benefits from that and is labeled the GOAT. I would love to see him lead a Jets, Jags, or Lions team to a SB, but that will never happen. He went to a loaded team and won a SB because his defense bailed him out all playoffs. But he's the "GOAT".

This press conference is great!

Belichick got tired of that. His great defense & strong OL never seemed to get any credit.

What an embarrassing loss for Brady. He still had his all time favorite weapon, Gronk, and couldn’t muster a single point?

Jesus Christ. ****ing Savage.

Sportscenter spinning excuses for Tom.

Shocking. No weapons right?

Turn that trash off.

You watching it is literally giving money to those lame ass pieces of ****ing dogballs.

I will never watch ESPN morning episodes for as long as that trash Stephen A. is still employed there.

Boo hoo! Brady got shut out!
 

Brady got shut out! LOL! Tossing pad!

He is the BEST when Cowgirls LOSE! :LOL:

I was waiting for the press conference.

It is off now.

"Go **** yourself, bitch".

Part of me doesn't wanna play them again because I know the refs will throw the game for them, but part of me wants to just to watch Chris Jones sit on Brady's face and watch him cry like he did tonight.

Saints SHUT OUT TB! **** you Tom Brady!

Only win this week was Buffalo - feeling great right now! GEAUX CHIEFS! :thumb:

Oh and MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU ALL! Love the Chiefs Kingdom and you crazy ****ers!

What a ****ing awesome day of football!

Brady loses and looks like a chump. Ravens go down AGAIN on a failed 2 pt. conversion. �� Titans have a game against the suck ass Steelers locked down at halftime and proceed to shit their pants in epic fashion in the second half and cough it up. Chiefs move into the 1 seed. Just complete awesomeness.

Between today, Pats getting bitch slapped by the Colts last night and Thursday nights epic OT win while short handed . . . . . . . just a great ****ing week of football all around!


More weekends like this please . . . . .

That's crazy... we watched Spider Man, came out and swear I thought ESPN app was frozen.

Don't know what it is but the Saints have completely shut down the Packers and Bucs this season. Hopefully they can sneak into the playoffs and do the same thing there.

They’re able to get significant pressure on the QB without having to blitz. I’m guessing their coverage is also quite good as well if Brady is not able to find anybody open as quickly as he usually does (probably why Brady was bitching and asking for holding calls all game).

I would love to see them in the playoffs. If they play Brady, they’ll likely still have the game called against them but at least they’ll get a few shots in along the way.

This is likely... :cuss:

Saints have a good defense that matches up well against the Bucs given they have someone that has usually given Mike Evans problems but Packers game was first game of the season with Rodgers having short preseason so tougher to draw conclusions from that game.

In first Bucs-Saints game of the season, Brady threw for 4 touchdowns/2 ints and 375 yards with Gronk barely playing in the game at all due to injury. So, not shutdown in that game but Bucs defense wasn't as good then.

This game Tampa was obviously shutdown even though without the key Brady fumble and a missed FG and Gronk missing some makable catches, they would have at least kept it close.

In this game Tampa ended up playing without arguably their 4 or even 5 best receivers if one considers Fournette a receiver. But not just Fournette out but one of his backups. Now to be fair to the Saints, they were also without key players including their starting QB who is out for the season. And even when Bucs had Evans/Godwin in this game, they didn't complete drives.

If Bucs are without 2 of their key skill position players(Godwin, Antonio Brown, Evans, Gronk), they become very beatable by any team with a good defense. Tampa has a "top heavy" roster.

The Saints do a good job with being physical on defense/playing tight coverages. Sometimes they hold/pass interfere but they usually don't in an egregious fashion so they may not have that reputation.

Chiefs having to play Saints in week 15 last year may have cost the Chiefs the Super Bowl.

Saints needed a win to be #1 seed in NFC and played real physical and Chiefs lost several players. Trey Hendrickson was a beast. He is at Bengals now, but Saints D-line handled Tampa Bay's way above average O-line last night without Hendrickson.

I think if you asked Brett Veach and Andy Reid about week 15 against Saints last year as a factor in not winning the Super Bowl, both would say that game did have an effect.

Seems like week 15 against Saints could have a similar effect on Tampa Bay this year, Bucs lost a few great players to injury last night.

I will never forgive Jared Cook.

If that piece of shit doesn't fumble the ball, they most likely go on to continue dominating the Bucs in that playoff matchup last year.

Would have changed everything.

This is the NFL's golden boy

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Looks like Tom Brady goes to the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Saints?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Saints</a> sideline and says: &quot;Go f*** yourself.&quot; <a href="https://t.co/CA2tDakqXn">pic.twitter.com/CA2tDakqXn</a></p>&mdash; Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1472781027936505859?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I'm glad Mahomes isn't a ****ing douchebag.

I hope the media calls Brady out for that nonsense last night. I’ve seen QBs act unprofessional, but last night was the worst. Just uncalled for. Dude is acting entitled and like he’s never won anything before.

There is this Raiders fan on the Raiders board I belong to who blamed Cook for all the Raiders losses during his tenure with us.

He had a field day after that fumble. :LOL:

Brady threw that poor innocent iPad.

#iPadLivesMatter

At least not legitimately.

:rolleyes: As if that “are the Patriots back” thread didn’t scream “I don’t know shit about football”, you making statements like this just make it very clear. Fournette may be one of the worst receiving backs in the league. LMAO

Still think the Pats make the playoffs by the way? Looks like Bill may not be able to mask the issue of having nothing more than a game manager at QB.

Top heavy roster? Tampa is pretty loaded with talent on both sides of the ball. They have four guys that would be #1 receiving options for other teams. They have 2 guys that are good enough to be starting RB’s for other teams. By comparison, KC has two great receivers (with a bunch of scrub receivers) and no RB’s worth a damn.

The BUCS claiming to own the blueprint to beat the Chiefs offense. Gets stronger on offense and weaker on defense. Is pretty ****ing hilarious

The Bucs OL got punched in the mouth and never bothered fighting back. Going to be a long week in the film room for them. The Saints tried to end Godwins season, and they did at least the regular season.

Are we sure that's what he said? :spock:

I dream of seeing him melt down during a SB blowout, after Chris Jones and Ingram take turns sacking him about four times each.

I would love to see that. The thing is that I don't like the prospect of seeing Brady in the SB because the refs always seem to give him a boost.

I’ve heard Tampa fans complaining about the hit on Godwin, but didn’t hear a peep out of them for the bullshit horse collar tackle on Winston that ended his season and likely gifted Brady his first NFC south division title. Judging by how Semen and the running back Hill swept him, I don’t think they come close to winning that division without that bush league horse collar by White to force the Saints to play the rest of the season without a QB.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Bucs are optimistic that Chris Godwin, their receptions leader — 98 catches for 1,103 yards and five touchdowns — will return for the playoffs. <a href="https://t.co/r0WhQ8xVC7">https://t.co/r0WhQ8xVC7</a></p>&mdash; Tampa Bay Times (@TB_Times) <a href="https://twitter.com/TB_Times/status/1472978112833069058?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pad Brady's stats!

Don’t see any issues with his behavior to be honest. It amazes me that he still cannot get enough, winning means everything to him and that‘s the kind of behavior the GOATs of any sport have. MJ, Federer, Schumacher, Messi, Tiger and others. Brady was on the path securing his 4th MVP trophy easily, and paired with the possibility of winning another SB and SB MVP, that would be the coronation of possible the greatest sporting career of all time. Things got a bit complicated for him now.

Classic case of 'Roid rage.

Looked like he said "I'd like to kiss your son on the mouth!"

Being a sore loser doesn’t really equate to the whole winning mentality thing I think you’re trying to elude to. If he wanted to show he can’t get enough winning he could have went out and put some points on the board during the game instead of losing to a 3rd string gadget QB who lead his team to 3 field goals.

He’s an entitled prick. He has an overinflated opinion of himself and his popularity. Nobody outside of New England and fair weather Tampa fans like him.

He’s certainly no Jordan, Messi or Tiger as far as fan popularity.

That is true, but that not solely Brady’s fault.

The league will step-in to assist him with his goals. They seemingly always do (for him).

Stay. Down. Bitch.

There was a play last night were Brady seemed to try to kick the guy that sacked him or tackled him after the throw. The Saints player may have been standing over him but not in a way that would normally draw a penalty.

The broadcast did not address it, but it seemed like that not every QB would be able to do that and not get a penalty flag. Referee John Hussey seemed like he was mad at Brady and said something, but he did not throw the flag.

Chris Godwin tore his ACL and is done for the year pee Schefter. That’s a damn big blow for that team

To be fair, I remember playing the Saints, and they were dirty as ****.

Dang. He's on the franchise tag as well. Wonder what the injury does for him in the free agent market. Bucs might get him re-signed at a cheap rate.

That’s a big blow

Nahh he grabbed Winston by the sleeve. The NFL just wanted to protect their bullshit call, ohh and PJ Williams did what he intended to do and that was end Godwins season.

White was literally flagged for a horse collar tackle when he tore Winston's ACL, was he not?

The **** it isn't.

Asshole. Kisses boys. Wears Uggs.

Yeah, people hate him because he is who he is. It's completely his fault.

Yup.

They still have Evans, Gronk, Brown. Fournette and Jones. Hardly crappy. Still a super team that can mask Brady's faults and they play 3 total losers to end the season. They can still get the one seed. Dallas and GB have better teams to play by far.

And a strong OL. Strong defense, especially Front 7.

Devin White is the worst form tackler in the league because he grew up playing running back so he never learned the proper tackling form. There is a reason he is probably one of the most fined LB’s in the league. There is a reason he was fined for that bush league horse collar tackle. Watch the video again idiot, he grabs Winston right below the horse collar and drags him down. It is by rule an illegal hit. Comparing White’s illegal hit against a starting QB to PJ Williams completely legal hit makes you seem like a hypocritical idiot.

The NFL was protecting their BS QB from the embarrassment of never being able to even win his soft NFC division. There’s no way they win the south without that injury. Do you at least admit to that?

If he was trying to end someone's season, he picked the wrong one.

That does suck. Godwin seems like a great person.

Before Godwin injury, healthy Bucs were the best team in the NFL. Team had been 10-3 with Gronk and Brown missing plenty of games.... Godwin wasn't their best pass catcher. Antonio Brown when healthy was better but given his very good run blocking -- Brown is weak at blocking -- and ability to even run for some first downs, he was their best overall receiver since he was so versatile.

With all of their receivers/tight ends healthy, Bucs had best receiving core in the NFL even if they may not have had a true top 10 receiver. I doubt they have the best overall receiver/tight end core in the NFL but should still be top 5 but counting on Brown/Evans/Gronk to stay healthy may be a tall order.

I no longer think Bucs deserve to be favorites to win it all since I don't have confidence at all in most of the Bucs backup receivers and chances are someone among Brown/Evans/Gronk misses is injured at a key point in the playoffs. If the key remaining pieces for Bucs are healthy, they will be a tough out but I doubt they will all stay healthy given the ages and wear on Gronk/Brown... even Evans has been injured more and more.

They are a bush league tackle from being in second place in one of the worst divisions in football.

Still think the Pats make the playoffs? Just want to get you on record before the collapse.

Sucks he not only tore his ACL, but also tore his MCL.

Remember when Al Bundy wasn’t a smug bitch? Pretty sure he became entitled about 1 second after Brady became a Buc. Will be entertaining to watch him turn back into a bumpkin when Brady retires.

Not a super team since Gronk is no longer elite. Evans is a top 10 red zone target at receiver but he isn't elite at gaining separation/moving the chains.
Brown is the best receiver they got but he is a fairly old receiver coming off an injury and suspension.

Bucs have a small chance at #1 seed since Green Bay plays Cleveland, Vikings and Detroit. I just don't see that happening given Packers own the tiebreaker and have the one game lead.

Yes, I believe Patriots make the playoffs. They have a better shot at #1 seed then missing the playoffs.

To miss the playoffs, they would probably need to lose all 3 remaining games. If they just win the Jacksonville game that is probably enough to make the playoffs.

Losing to both the Bills and Dolphins wouldn't surprise me but also losing to the Jags would.

The Bucs had weirdly good luck last year during their Super Bowl run staying healthy. If I remember, they were the healthiest team throughout the season by a good margin.

I'm still pissed we had to play them with our offensive line completely decimated. They could lose Godwin, Brown, Gronk, and Evans and they might have an argument for having as impactful a string of injuries we had last year.

You may be right. If the game was at Jacksonville, it would obviously be a toss up with how Jones has been playing, but I’m sure the refs will bail the Pats out at home like they always have. I love that you started it with “better chance at the 1 seed”…that was the kind of laugh I was looking for from your statement. They better hope Damien Harris makes it back for the Jags game or it really does become a toss-up…

Still don’t think it would be the same as losing the entire OL basically. Take away Brady’s starting linemen and make him make plays with his “athleticism” to expose him to the world.

Brady has a persecution complex. Injuries are part of the game when they happen to other teams, but they impact him personally, that's a sign the rules need changed. What a bitch.

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