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Hammock Parties 11-12-2022 10:47 PM

doc says he thinks it's a bad idea for him to play

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dr. Chao on Josh Allen’s week 10 status <a href="https://t.co/wb0qDzmcAy">pic.twitter.com/wb0qDzmcAy</a></p>&mdash; FantasyPros (@FantasyPros) <a href="https://twitter.com/FantasyPros/status/1591159488794759169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 11, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Simply Red 11-12-2022 10:49 PM

Buffalo should win without any worry against Minnesota - they have nothing to worry about - even if Keenum starts. They're solid enough to beat Minnesota - shouldn't be any problems for that elite squad. Buffalo 42 Minnesota 9

Jewish Rabbi 11-12-2022 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 16597409)
Buffalo should win without any worry against Minnesota - they have nothing to worry about - even if Keenum starts. They're solid enough to beat Minnesota - shouldn't be any problems for that elite squad. Buffalo 42 Minnesota 9

Plz message Case on FB and wish him luck from CP.com

Simply Red 11-12-2022 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16597407)
doc says he thinks it's a bad idea for him to play

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dr. Chao on Josh Allen’s week 10 status <a href="https://t.co/wb0qDzmcAy">pic.twitter.com/wb0qDzmcAy</a></p>&mdash; FantasyPros (@FantasyPros) <a href="https://twitter.com/FantasyPros/status/1591159488794759169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 11, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

he's a tough guy - won't be any issue for Josh. He's confident and ready.

mr. tegu 11-12-2022 11:55 PM

Vikings are just going to run it down their throats and hit the occasional big play and Bills fans will blame the two Allen picks on his elbow instead of the proper cause, his brain. Third place for the Bills coming tomorrow.

New World Order 11-12-2022 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16597208)
they're fighting tooth and nail with their division just to make the postseason

gonna laugh when they miss it...I told you guys

You think they're missing the postseason?

That's kinda crazy

Hammock Parties 11-12-2022 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16597479)
You think they're missing the postseason?

That's kinda crazy

if josh's arm is ****ed, 100 percent

if his arm is healthy, they're still fighting not to be a wild card, and then it gets dicey

i said it in preseason...don't care how they started, this squad hasn't proven shit after going 11-6 last year

so far they are trending the same path and now the injuries are piling up

Simply Red 11-13-2022 12:00 AM

I love Patrick Mahomes!

Hammock Parties 11-13-2022 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 16597477)
Vikings are just going to run it down their throats and hit the occasional big play and Bills fans will blame the two Allen picks on his elbow instead of the proper cause, his brain. Third place for the Bills coming tomorrow.

i said what i ****ing said

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16447858)
bills are a sleeper non-playoff team

that roster didn't get better


crayzkirk 11-13-2022 06:41 AM

Looking at the AFC, where are the expected playoff teams coming from? KC from the West, Baltimore/Cincinnati from the North, Tennessee from the South, and that leaves NY/Miami/Buffalo from the East. Risking the future of a great player seems really foolish just for a trophy.

UChieffyBugger 11-13-2022 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 16597409)
Buffalo should win without any worry against Minnesota - they have nothing to worry about - even if Keenum starts. They're solid enough to beat Minnesota - shouldn't be any problems for that elite squad. Buffalo 42 Minnesota 9

They couldn't beat the Jets last week with a more healthy squad but this week they should win without Allen? Just dumb logic smh ROFL

FlaChief58 11-13-2022 07:08 AM

The Chiefs will assume their rightful position all alone at the top of the conference by tonight.

RaidersOftheCellar 11-13-2022 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 16597610)
Looking at the AFC, where are the expected playoff teams coming from? KC from the West, Baltimore/Cincinnati from the North, Tennessee from the South, and that leaves NY/Miami/Buffalo from the East. Risking the future of a great player seems really foolish just for a trophy.

Chargers?

RedinTexas 11-13-2022 07:24 AM

I saw an article somewhere that said Allen's injury was just like the injury to Carson Wentz(I think.) Wentz said that he could make most of his throws, but about every third throw he made would just die about half way to the target. So, if all that is true, we should see Allen missing at least 1/3 of his passes because it just doesn't get there. We also know that he loves to throw long, so if those fall short, we might see some more interceptions too.

ETA - I have been informed that it was actually Carson Palmer.

Found the article : https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/j...h-injured-ucl/

KCUnited 11-13-2022 07:34 AM

Bills hanging onto their Super Bowl window like Joe Exotic's eyebrow ring

https://i.imgur.com/312AgPl.jpg

JustDíqLix 11-13-2022 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16597481)
i said it in preseason...don't care how they started, this squad hasn't proven shit after going 11-6 last year

This is what you said AFTER they went 11-6 last year.

https://i.ibb.co/H7sgqqG/9317-F02-A-...AAC192-CC6.jpg

JustDíqLix 11-13-2022 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 16597610)
Looking at the AFC, where are the expected playoff teams coming from? KC from the West, Baltimore/Cincinnati from the North, Tennessee from the South, and that leaves NY/Miami/Buffalo from the East. Risking the future of a great player seems really foolish just for a trophy.

Or, as pointed out by another poster in this thread, Allen was never really injured and the Bills have been playing coy all week.

JustDíqLix 11-13-2022 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 16597640)
I saw an article somewhere that said Allen's injury was just like the injury to Carson Wentz(I think.) Wentz said that he could make most of his throws, but about every third throw he made would just die about half way to the target. So, if all that is true, we should see Allen missing at least 1/3 of his passes because it just doesn't get there. We also know that he loves to throw long, so if those fall short, we might see some more interceptions too.

You’re thinking of Carson Palmer and the comparison is bad.

Carson tore 75% of his UCL, was told by doctors that he needed Tommy John surgery but refused, and said he couldn’t get it to receivers that were 10 yards from him. The pass would start to go and just fell out of the sky. Allen has a minor sprain and threw a 70 yard pass. Not even remotely similar in any way to Palmer.

JustDíqLix 11-13-2022 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 16597391)
So is Allen playing? If so, will he be any good?

I need to know if I should start Gabriel Davis or CeeDee Lamb.

I'm inclined to start Davis because Lamb is going up against a top notch Green Bay pass defense.

I would not start Davis.

BleedingRed 11-13-2022 07:47 AM

OMG SOMEONE SHUT HIM THE **** UP

RedinTexas 11-13-2022 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRyan (Post 16597659)
You’re thinking of Carson Palmer and the comparison is bad.

Carson tore 75% of his UCL, was told by doctors that he needed Tommy John surgery but refused, and said he couldn’t get it to receivers that were 10 yards from him. The pass would start to go and just fell out of the sky. Allen has a minor sprain and threw a 70 yard pass. Not even remotely similar in any way to Palmer.

Thanks on the correction. However, we don't really know whether it's the same thing or not. Do we? The Bills are being very circumspect on what they're saying. Maybe it's not the same thing and Allen will be just fine, but we sure as hell don't KNOW anything of the sort.

BigRedChief 11-13-2022 07:56 AM

If this was Mahomes, I wouldn't want him to start. No reason to risk it for a home playoff game. Prefer a fully healthy Mahomes on the road as compared to throwing ducks every once in a while in week 9 and then not being fully healed by the playoffs.

JustDíqLix 11-13-2022 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 16597668)
Thanks on the correction. However, we don't really know whether it's the same thing or not. Do we? The Bills are being very circumspect on what they're saying. Maybe it's not the same thing and Allen will be just fine, but we sure as hell don't KNOW anything of the sort.

I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t be playing today if it was 75% torn and needed Tommy John surgery. Carson was an idiot and he admitted as much and said we’ve learned a lot on the medical side in the last 15 years.

kysirsoze 11-13-2022 08:09 AM

He's starting.

RedinTexas 11-13-2022 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRyan (Post 16597681)
I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t be playing today if it was 75% torn and needed Tommy John surgery. Carson was an idiot and he admitted as much and said we’ve learned a lot on the medical side in the last 15 years.

Carson thought he could play. NFL players want to play. Players like Allen who have their team in a hot competition for playoff seeding want to play if they are capable and will play with pain and play through injuries.

None of us KNOWS what is wrong with Allen. None of us. We saw him hurt his elbow and we saw him dealing with pain. So, we think we know that he's hurt, but unless you're a doctor and you have personally examined Allen, I don't think your medical opinion carries any weight at all here.

Lzen 11-13-2022 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 16597627)
They couldn't beat the Jets last week with a more healthy squad but this week they should win without Allen? Just dumb logic smh ROFL

Jets are a decent team this year. And I think Minnesota is a little overrated. Add to that Cousins seems to always choke in big games. Last week was at Jets. This week is a home game for the Bills. Add up all of those factors and yeah, I can see his reasoning. I wouldn't predict a beat down, though. And if all of those injuries are that serious, they could. play a major factor, and then I could even see the Bills losing this one.

crayzkirk 11-13-2022 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16597631)
Chargers?

Perhaps... The Chargers seem to be running more towards the ER than the playoffs. If they lose against the 49ers, that will put them 2.5 down after the Chiefs win today.

Lzen 11-13-2022 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 16597692)
Perhaps... The Chargers seem to be running more towards the ER than the playoffs. If they lose against the 49ers, that will put them 2.5 down after the Chiefs win today.

Yeah, I don't think the Chargers are taking the division from the Chiefs. But he was asking about the 7 playoff teams from the AfC. They might be able to steal one of those by the time it's all said and done.

Chris Meck 11-13-2022 08:30 AM

no matter what you guys say, the fact that you are this infatuated with whether or not Josh Allen is totally fine or his arm is going to have to be amputated speaks volumes about who you fear in the play-offs.

JustDíqLix 11-13-2022 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 16597688)
Carson thought he could play. NFL players want to play. Players like Allen who have their team in a hot competition for playoff seeding want to play if they are capable and will play with pain and play through injuries.

None of us KNOWS what is wrong with Allen. None of us. We saw him hurt his elbow and we saw him dealing with pain. So, we think we know that he's hurt, but unless you're a doctor and you have personally examined Allen, I don't think your medical opinion carries any weight at all here.

You’re right probably right. His ligament is probably barely hanging onto the bone and they’re trotting him out there.

JustDíqLix 11-13-2022 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16597712)
no matter what you guys say, the fact that you are this infatuated with whether or not Josh Allen is totally fine or his arm is going to have to be amputated speaks volumes about who you fear in the play-offs.

Yep.

Simply Red 11-13-2022 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16597712)
no matter what you guys say, the fact that you are this infatuated with whether or not Josh Allen is totally fine or his arm is going to have to be amputated speaks volumes about who you fear in the play-offs.

True and the Bill's fan is so NOT WORRIED about KC that he's constantly here (on our 'KCs) board trying to defend his team.

Simply Red 11-13-2022 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRyan (Post 16597718)
Yep.

you just being here make you look worried and paranoid about your team.

MahomesMagic 11-13-2022 08:40 AM

No QB puts more strain on their arm due to throwing QB mechanics than Allen. If it pops he's out 2 years.

Rainbarrel 11-13-2022 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16597712)
no matter what you guys say, the fact that you are this infatuated with whether or not Josh Allen is totally fine or his arm is going to have to be amputated speaks volumes about who you fear in the play-offs.

Or breaking in a new Knomo

crayzkirk 11-13-2022 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16597712)
no matter what you guys say, the fact that you are this infatuated with whether or not Josh Allen is totally fine or his arm is going to have to be amputated speaks volumes about who you fear in the play-offs.

projection much?

I don't want anything bad to happen to anyone. It's a game (entertainment) to distract us from everyday problems and watch some really good athletes earn a bunch of money to run really fast, chase a funny shaped ball and run into each other.

It's just odd that with this injury, there is a lot of conflicting information out there and we all just love to speculate about things we don't know about.

tredadda 11-13-2022 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRyan (Post 16597656)
Or, as pointed out by another poster in this thread, Allen was never really injured and the Bills have been playing coy all week.

That doesn’t make any sense though.

tredadda 11-13-2022 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 16597691)
Jets are a decent team this year. And I think Minnesota is a little overrated. Add to that Cousins seems to always choke in big games. Last week was at Jets. This week is a home game for the Bills. Add up all of those factors and yeah, I can see his reasoning. I wouldn't predict a beat down, though. And if all of those injuries are that serious, they could. play a major factor, and then I could even see the Bills losing this one.

Minnesota is a pretty good team but I will say that their record is smoke and mirrors. Their biggest win this year has been beating Miami without Tua. Even then the score was close. They have yet to blow anyone out all year. All their wins are close.

KChiefs1 11-13-2022 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 16597687)
He's starting.


I figured he would but I also expect a lot more running than passing.

JustDíqLix 11-13-2022 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 16597721)
you just being here make you look worried and paranoid about your team.

I am worried and paranoid about my team.

I don’t hide that lol.

JustDíqLix 11-13-2022 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16597771)
Minnesota is a pretty good team but I will say that their record is smoke and mirrors. Their biggest win this year has been beating Miami without Tua. Even then the score was close. They have yet to blow anyone out all year. All their wins are close.

Bills have a lot of injuries right now so I expect this game to be close too.

JustDíqLix 11-13-2022 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16597768)
That doesn’t make any sense though.

How does it not? Forcing an opponent to prepare for two completely different style of QB’s is definitely a thing.

Rausch 11-13-2022 09:25 AM

....they say freak....when you're singled out.....the red....it pushes through....

Chris Meck 11-13-2022 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 16597753)
projection much?

I don't want anything bad to happen to anyone. It's a game (entertainment) to distract us from everyday problems and watch some really good athletes earn a bunch of money to run really fast, chase a funny shaped ball and run into each other.

It's just odd that with this injury, there is a lot of conflicting information out there and we all just love to speculate about things we don't know about.

Projection? I don't think that's the correct usage of the word.

It's not odd at all that The Bills aren't giving information, neither would KC in the same situation. Why would they?

Keeping opponents guessing is a big part of the game.

I'm concerned only with KC playing to the best of their abilities. If they do, they'll be champions. If they don't, it won't take Josh Allen to beat them.

Rainbarrel 11-13-2022 09:30 AM

The fumbles and INTs never happened before injury
NEVER HAPPENED

Rausch 11-13-2022 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 16597822)
The fumbles and INTs never happened before injury
NEVER HAPPENED

His first two years were full of INT's and stray bullets...

RaidersOftheCellar 11-13-2022 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 16597834)
His first two years were full of INT's and stray bullets...

He has 15 INTs/fumbles in 8 games this year and a bunch more going back to mid-last season.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-13-2022 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRyan (Post 16597659)
You’re thinking of Carson Palmer and the comparison is bad.

Carson tore 75% of his UCL, was told by doctors that he needed Tommy John surgery but refused, and said he couldn’t get it to receivers that were 10 yards from him. The pass would start to go and just fell out of the sky. Allen has a minor sprain and threw a 70 yard pass. Not even remotely similar in any way to Palmer.

Bullshit. From what I'm hearing it's exactly the same. Ask Denver fans if you doubt what i say...

Pasta Little Brioni 11-13-2022 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16597843)
He has 15 INTs/fumbles in 8 games this year and a bunch more going back to mid-last season.

It's that elbow getting worse and the hits as the season wears on...

Eleazar 11-13-2022 10:18 AM

Why does either fan base need to be scared of the other? Sometimes we get them. Sometimes they get us. So far we get them when it matters. Probably won’t always be that way. Seems people are trying to make this more than it is… which is two good teams that are pretty close in quality and have a lot of mutual respect.

JustDíqLix 11-13-2022 10:29 AM

“The Allen news shows either that the S.S. McDermott includes some loose-lipped crew members — or that they’ve pulled off the ultimate act of quarterback subterfuge.”

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...len-will-play/

JustDíqLix 11-13-2022 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16597843)
He has 15 INTs/fumbles in 8 games this year and a bunch more going back to mid-last season.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The past 3 seasons (start of 2020)…<br><br>Josh Allen: 66%, 111 TD’s, 33 INT, 18 lost fumbles<br>Pat Mahomes: 66%, 101 TD’s, 25 INT, 11 lost fumbles<br><br>Allen is +60 in Net TD’s (touchdown minus turnovers). Mahomes is +65 in Net TD’s.<br><br>The numbers are as close to equal as you can get.</p>&mdash; Bills Stats &amp; More (@Tickets_Buffalo) <a href="https://twitter.com/Tickets_Buffalo/status/1591833816947396608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 13, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

FlaChief58 11-13-2022 10:51 AM

Allen is clearly the inferior qb

JustDíqLix 11-13-2022 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 16597874)
Bullshit. From what I'm hearing it's exactly the same. Ask Denver fans if you doubt what i say...

No offense but I don’t take anything you write seriously. You have shown zero ability to be objective about anything.

Bearcat 11-13-2022 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16597907)
Why does either fan base need to be scared of the other? Sometimes we get them. Sometimes they get us. So far we get them when it matters. Probably won’t always be that way. Seems people are trying to make this more than it is… which is two good teams that are pretty close in quality and have a lot of mutual respect.

Yeah, it's just dumb fan narratives (both "dumb fan" narrative and dumb "fan narrative"). The Bills have done what every other team trying to beat the Chiefs has attempted... pass rushers who can get to Mahomes without needing to blitz, offensive speed and the ability to outscore the Chiefs and do so quickly (as opposed to the antiquated time of possession theory), and of course a franchise QB.

Saying they're scared of the Chiefs is kind of like saying they thought it would be a cakewalk to win Super Bowls, but oh noes, we didn't expect such a challenge!

Everyone involved has been involved in football for decades... yeah, there's pressure to win and of course pressure to beat the Chiefs, but it's not like anyone in either organization was born yesterday.

(and of course, this is also mostly a trolling thread, too)

Spott 11-13-2022 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRyan (Post 16597980)
No offense but I don’t take anything you write seriously. You have shown zero ability to be objective about anything.

No offense, but nobody here gives a shit what you think. You’re just some dipshit troll that’s too tired of sucking Allen’s dick on your own message board, so now you’re sucking it over here.

RaidersOftheCellar 11-13-2022 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRyan (Post 16597956)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The past 3 seasons (start of 2020)…<br><br>Josh Allen: 66%, 111 TD’s, 33 INT, 18 lost fumbles<br>Pat Mahomes: 66%, 101 TD’s, 25 INT, 11 lost fumbles<br><br>Allen is +60 in Net TD’s (touchdown minus turnovers). Mahomes is +65 in Net TD’s.<br><br>The numbers are as close to equal as you can get.</p>&mdash; Bills Stats &amp; More (@Tickets_Buffalo) <a href="https://twitter.com/Tickets_Buffalo/status/1591833816947396608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 13, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So 15 more turnovers in your cherry-picked timeframe (and doesn't even take into account the recovered fumbles).

And?

JustDíqLix 11-13-2022 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16597994)
So 15 more turnovers in your cherry-picked timeframe (and doesn't even take into account the recovered fumbles).

And?

3 years is a pretty long sample size. Do you want to go back to his rookie year just to cherry pick that time frame? No one is arguing Allen was good in his rookie season.

Allen scores more TD’s but he also has more turnovers. That’s who he is. At the end of the day, over a 3 year span, the difference between Allen and Mahomes (statistically speaking) is 5 net TD’s. Over 3 years. That’s a fairly small difference.

Mahomes is better right now (as the +5 TD’s show) and may always be better. I am okay with having the 2nd best QB in the NFL. You can win a lot of games and Super Bowls with the 2nd best QB in the NFL. Mahomes being great doesn’t diminish Allen at all.

You’re just very insecure about Mahomes and Allen.

The recovered fumbles mean very little to me, as a lot of the time that’s Allen diving toward the Pylon or first down marker and fumbling it out of bounds. I care about the ones that are actually turnovers.

Chris Meck 11-13-2022 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRyan (Post 16597956)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The past 3 seasons (start of 2020)…<br><br>Josh Allen: 66%, 111 TD’s, 33 INT, 18 lost fumbles<br>Pat Mahomes: 66%, 101 TD’s, 25 INT, 11 lost fumbles<br><br>Allen is +60 in Net TD’s (touchdown minus turnovers). Mahomes is +65 in Net TD’s.<br><br>The numbers are as close to equal as you can get.</p>&mdash; Bills Stats &amp; More (@Tickets_Buffalo) <a href="https://twitter.com/Tickets_Buffalo/status/1591833816947396608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 13, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The reason to start the comparison there is so that nobody can talk about MVP's, Play-off wins, SB wins, and SB MVP's. How clever.

JimNasium 11-13-2022 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRyan (Post 16597956)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The past 3 seasons (start of 2020)…<br><br>Josh Allen: 66%, 111 TD’s, 33 INT, 18 lost fumbles<br>Pat Mahomes: 66%, 101 TD’s, 25 INT, 11 lost fumbles<br><br>Allen is +60 in Net TD’s (touchdown minus turnovers). Mahomes is +65 in Net TD’s.<br><br>The numbers are as close to equal as you can get.</p>&mdash; Bills Stats &amp; More (@Tickets_Buffalo) <a href="https://twitter.com/Tickets_Buffalo/status/1591833816947396608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 13, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

No mention of their head-to-head playoff record?

Sofa King 11-13-2022 11:23 AM

I wonder what Pat's stats would look like with Allen's defense and vice versa. I'm betting the gap would shock people.

Imon Yourside 11-13-2022 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 16598070)
I wonder what Pat's stats would look like with Allen's defense and vice versa. I'm betting the gap would shock people.

Fo Sho

RaidersOftheCellar 11-13-2022 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRyan (Post 16597998)
3 years is a pretty long sample size. Do you want to go back to his rookie year just to cherry pick that time frame? No one is arguing Allen was good in his rookie season.

Allen scores more TD’s but he also has more turnovers. That’s who he is. At the end of the day, over a 3 year span, the difference between Allen and Mahomes (statistically speaking) is 5 net TD’s. Over 3 years. That’s a fairly small difference.

Mahomes is better right now (as the +5 TD’s show) and may always be better. I am okay with having the 2nd best QB in the NFL. You can win a lot of games and Super Bowls with the 2nd best QB in the NFL. Mahomes being great doesn’t diminish Allen at all.

You’re just very insecure about Mahomes and Allen.

The recovered fumbles mean very little to me, as a lot of the time that’s Allen diving toward the Pylon or first down marker and fumbling it out of bounds. I care about the ones that are actually turnovers.

I was responding to someone who brought up the INTs/fumbles in Allen's first two seasons, to show that he hasn't exactly cleaned it up in that dept. Within minutes, you arrived to defend his honor by posting irrelevant info, yet I'm the insecure one?
:LOL:

TDs have nothing to do with the topic. Clearly you're just too insecure to say "yes, he fumbles and throws the ball to opponents fairly often."

Also, it's pretty convenient to slice off Allen's worst two years and Mahomes' 50 TD MVP season, while including Mahomes' worst year (a year in which receivers were repeatedly bobbling solid throws into the hands of DBs).

JustDíqLix 11-13-2022 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16598033)
The reason to start the comparison there is so that nobody can talk about MVP's, Play-off wins, SB wins, and SB MVP's. How clever.

2020 is when Allen got good. I don’t think there is anyone in the world arguing that 2018 or 2019 Josh Allen is in the same stratosphere as Mahomes.

JustDíqLix 11-13-2022 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16598113)
TDs have nothing to do with the topic. Clearly you're just too insecure to say "yes, he fumbles and throws the ball to opponents fairly often."

I actually said that exact thing in the post you quoted.

JustDíqLix 11-13-2022 11:46 AM

Allen just ran onto the field.

Doesn’t even have a brace on the elbow.

The Bills just hoodwinked the league for an entire week.

MahomesKnows 11-13-2022 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRyan (Post 16597807)
How does it not? Forcing an opponent to prepare for two completely different style of QB’s is definitely a thing.

What preparation does a team do for Keenum? Lol he's a bum. You can bet the Vikings we're expecting Allen to play.

Bearcat 11-13-2022 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRyan (Post 16598123)
Allen just ran onto the field.

Doesn’t even have a brace on the elbow.

The Bills just hoodwinked <strike>the league</strike> Bills fans for an entire week.

Anyone who wasn't born yesterday knows how that works.... they want the Vikings to wonder if they're game planning against Allen or backup (which is kind of dumb, because you're going to game plan like you're playing Allen).

Some teams are more secretive than others, but it happens all the time.

Peter Gibbons 11-13-2022 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRyan (Post 16597656)
Or, as pointed out by another poster in this thread, Allen was never really injured and the Bills have been playing coy all week.

I am not a lawyer, but I have stayed in a Holiday Inn Express before……
Wouldn’t that mean they’ve been lying on their injury reports? I believe that can result in very serious consequences from the NFL including fines and loss of draft picks. Do you care to revise and extend your remarks, Senator?

Pepe Silvia 11-13-2022 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter Gibbons (Post 16598135)
I am not a lawyer, but I have stayed in a Holiday Inn Express before……
Wouldn’t that mean they’ve been lying on their injury reports? I believe that can result in very serious consequences from the NFL including fines and loss of draft picks. Do you care to revise and extend your remarks, Senator?

You serious? This is Josh Allen and the Bills. Josh Allen/Bills=Blind Eye Turned.

RaidersOftheCellar 11-13-2022 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRyan (Post 16598118)
I actually said that exact thing in the post you quoted.

Nope...you just admitted that he has more TOs than Mahomes in that span, while downplaying the fumble total, and then pivoted to bragging about his TD numbers.

JustDíqLix 11-13-2022 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16598131)
Anyone who wasn't born yesterday knows how that works.... they want the Vikings to wonder if they're game planning against Allen or backup (which is kind of dumb, because you're going to game plan like you're playing Allen).

Some teams are more secretive than others, but it happens all the time.

This thread is 60+ pages because of Bills fans?

I read Chiefs fans all week saying Allen wouldn’t play.

Bearcat 11-13-2022 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JustRyan (Post 16598182)
This thread is 60+ pages because of Bills fans?

Is that a real question? The next 3 posters combined don't equal your total in this thread, and #3 is our resident troll who's only here to waste your time (and most of us are doing that, too).

User Name Posts
JustRyan 117
Detoxing 41
Pasta Little Brother 39
DRM08 32

T-post Tom 11-13-2022 12:40 PM

LET’S GO VIKINGS!

RollChiefsRoll 11-13-2022 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JustRyan (Post 16598182)
This thread is 60+ pages because of Bills fans?

I read Chiefs fans all week saying Allen wouldn’t play.

12 pages for me. Change your settings, noob.

JustDíqLix 11-13-2022 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16598224)
Is that a real question? The next 3 posters combined don't equal your total in this thread, and #3 is our resident troll who's only here to waste your time (and most of us are doing that, too).

User Name Posts
JustRyan 117
Detoxing 41
Pasta Little Brother 39
DRM08 32

Guess you’re right. My fault.

DRM08 11-13-2022 12:56 PM

Josh looks good so far. No signs of any problems with the elbow.

KChiefs1 11-13-2022 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16598762)
Josh looks good so far. No signs of any problems with the elbow.


Can’t even tell he’s hurt.

Pepe Silvia 11-13-2022 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 16598829)
Can’t even tell he’s hurt.

He never was.

St. Patty's Fire 11-13-2022 01:21 PM

yea he looks fine


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