That’s like bitching about a college basketball team that scored 90, but only 20 in the first half.

They average 32 PPG in the 4 championship games man come on LMAO

Superturdle

Belichick is the GOAT defensive coach. It’s impressive they managed to score 31 on him in the 2nd half. In your home stadium, 31 should have been enough to win.

Eh, the Patriots were kind enough to help out with a couple short fields off picks and turnovers on downs.

They got one TD on a short field. They got 2 TD drives that both went 74+ yards and another TD drive that went 68 yards. They went 48 yards in about 30 seconds to setup a field goal at the very end of regulation.

Dee Ford :#

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The Bengals offensive gameplan with 3 backups on the o-line playing one of the best pass-rushing teams in the league:

1. Quick throws
2. Run the ball

I think this defense can do both. Pass rushers might want to focus on batting down balls rather than screaming upfield on neutral downs. We need our linebackers to play the run and tackle better than they did against Jacksonville.

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jesus this guy

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LMAO How many times have we heard how bad Cincys OL is only for the DL to do jack shit.

Cincy might want to look at the cautionary tale of the Las Vegas Raiders before continuing to go all in with the Burrowhead smack.

The Raiders did a victory joy ride with their team bus around Arrowhead after a win, and then proceeded to get trampled to death by the Chiefs every game since then.

They are a significantly better team though. Much better QB, much better weapons, much better defense than the Raiders.

It's a team sport so everyone shoulders some blame in a loss, but our defense gave up 37 points at home to the Patriots in that 2018 AFCCG. Game-sealing INT wiped out by a monumentally stupid penalty. We allowed three 3rd and long conversions on their final drive.

The defense has to carry the lion's share of that 2018 AFCCG.

I'll place most of the blame for the 2021 AFCCG on Pat, though. If we simply swap him with Henne at half, we probably win that game. It's like Mahomes completely forgot how to play football. It was unreal.

Of course they are a better team, but they have given the Chiefs the underdog/disrespect card that Cincy has been using during their past two postseasons... especially last week in Buffalo.

True, but I think this game is less about the pass rush and more about defending the run and forcing them away from quick throws, just based on how the Bengals are likely to play it with their backups on the line. Those first two things have to happen before the pass rush even matters.

I don’t think trash talk is a good strategy for anyone. But it has worked for the Bengals. They talk trash while simultaneously complaining that nobody respects them. Playing both sides of the coin has led to a lot of success for them. We’ll see if it works for them again this weekend.

It's amazing how many blatant offsides I've seen let go this postseason and over the years, running starts even, missed false starts, and other obvious shit let go....and that one got called....infuriating

If you look back at film of that AFCCG, it's not like Patrick didn't have options that were open. He just didn't play particularly well.

Hardman was wide open on the final drive for a game winning TD :(

So which of your Bengals jerseys will you be wearing? :hmmm:

Yep. He was stubbornly NOT taking what was there.

Orlovsky makes a valid point. The Bengals' make-shit offensive line may hold up, or it may not. The assumption that it will is misplaced.

1st and goal, nearly fumbles the game away forcing to settle for a long FG to tie. Just absolutely maddening how we lost the 2 AFCC games.

Kelce has 7 straight 1,000 yard seasons, posted career numbers this year without Tyreek, and is one of the all time leaders in playoff receiving yards and playoff TDs. If there was a “formula” for stopping him, DCs would have figured it out by now. Just nonsense talk from Edelman here.

I don’t wear sports jerseys. Only little kids should be doing that. I’ll be rooting hard for the Chiefs to win. They have an uphill battle to do it, especially with Patrick’s injury.

A head case, a steroid cheat and a murderer walk into a bar...

Sometimes you need experiences like that to not let your head get too big. It seemed like we tried to switch up who we were, bringing that mentality of the Alex Smith days back where we would get up big then just protect the lead. I really was baffled too, when they said dropping 8 was the key to beating Mahomes, I'm like "Really?" With his arm talent and low amount of interceptions he can't work it down the field with screens and dink and dunks to run clock just because of more defenders dropping back? That's the best thing about Patty though, his mistakes seemingly piss him off. I'm glad it happened early in Mahomes' career, during his cocky prime where the world bowed down to him. Humbled and focused, tempered by fire.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Travis Kelce led all tight ends in receptions, receiving yards &amp; receiving yards over expected from the slot in 2022.<br><br>The Bengals allowed the most targets (71), completions (47) &amp; receiving yards (495) to tight ends aligned in the slot this season.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CINvsKC?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CINvsKC</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/SgqXqC9QYP">pic.twitter.com/SgqXqC9QYP</a></p>&mdash; Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) <a href="https://twitter.com/NextGenStats/status/1617999130328174592?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

True, but regardless Ford has probably been playing football most of his life and should have known where to line up and backed up 6-8 inches. That’s one of those penalties that frustrates me so much as it’s pre snap and completely avoidable. I get heat of the moment penalties, not pre snap (outside of false starts).

Now are the refs uneven on enforcement of calls like that? Sure. Look at Washington vs NYG this year. Regardless of the uneven enforcement, don’t make dumb mistakes and leave it in the hands of the refs.

Eh it's honestly a crap shoot what they call with no rhyme or reason. There's a penalty or 2 on every play.

Hopefully Q gives this POS a tour of the George Brett statue

Right? What a moronic take. Chiefs scored 30 or so in that game, as I recall. If you score that many points, you should win. Just like the Rams game that season. They scored over 50 and still lost. That defense couldn't stop anything. And even the one time they appeared to have stopped NE, a blockhead was offsides. :doh!:

Yeah, it’s still hard to believe he messed up like that. Seems like it’s the most basic element of playing the defensive positions.

Awesome! :thumb: I always have liked this guy the best.

First, KC's pass rush has been better than last year. Two, the OL that they faced in Cincinnati this year was much better than the one they'll face on Sunday. Three, KC had only had 1 sack in Arrowhead last year, but they had 10 pressures, 6 hurries, several QB hits, and three tackles for loss. This OL is weaker than the one they brought last year.

The media and writers make the last 2 matchups to be Cincy wins going away.

In reality the Chiefs controlled both games, and shit the bed in one half (still nearly won) and a bullshit forward progress fumble shifted the last game.


I don't know if you can call this a coinflip game. If the Chiefs play their game and the Bengals theirs (if you take away all the fortunate bounces) the Chiefs will win by 10.

No homer talking. That's what the last 2 games have written all over.

Short version: If the Chiefs got the bounces the Bengals got the last two games they would have been complete blowouts. Instead it took that fortune for them to pull the games out.

This game will be a 2021 Buffalo AFC title game sequel.

That's good to know. Had me concerned there for a minute from all your previous posts.

Kurt Warner with some good film review. You can see a lot of receivers open but Patrick just not taking them. I wish he would have shown a little more of the Chiefs successes against this defense.

This makes it even more obvious that a little more running and quick passes will help against this defense.

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I would actually blame Mahomes way more for that Rams loss than for the playoff loss to the Patriots. He had 3 bad turnovers against the Rams that directly gave the Rams 21 points. Patrick himself said after the game that he gave 21 points to the Rams. He had 0 turnovers against the Patriots. Jared Goff also had 2 bad turnovers that directly led to 14 points for the Chiefs. So remove the turnovers by the Chief & Ram QB's. You end up with a 37-33 win for the Chiefs instead of a 54-51 win for the Rams.

Speaking of that Rams team, Belichick's defense held the Rams to 3 points in the Super Bowl. That's extremely impressive considering the Rams scored over 30 points per game throughout the season. It also adds context to Mahomes scoring 31 on Belichick's defense a couple weeks earlier.

They're probably going to come out blitzing thinking Mahomes can't move.

The Chiefs have dominated parts of every contest. The first halves of the first two games looked like we were going to boat race them.

We were in control of the game in Cincinnatti until Kelce forgot we had the lead, the ball, and he'd just gotten first down yardage. He thought we were down 14 points, and the goal line was just beyond the 3 defenders he encountered midfield and was stripped by refusing to simply go down and return to the huddle for a 1st and 10.

There's simply no other explanation for that refusal to go down other than just forgetting the game situation.

There's no way that happens again, he will be as lazer focused as weve ever seen him, and bracket coverages or not, I think Kelce is going to go off this game.

In the end, if we simply play a complete game, we should win handily. For whatever reason, after early domination, we just step on our dick and let the game slip away.

Clete ****ing Blakeman special. Can’t lie, not looking forward to the SB if we make it, which is bullshit. Cheffers will gladly **** us over and over again against whomever we draw. Can’t believe he’s the ref again already.

How many times are you going to find the negative in anything anybody posts?

The hell are you wanting people to say? Both lines have been absolutely awful in recent games against Cincinnati. Sorry, but this is a discussion, not a get together and blow smoke up the Chiefs collective asses party, and the DL being completely worthless at pressuring Burrow while the OL, especially the OTs, routinely get smacked around by the Bengals are going to be huge deciding factors in this game, ESPECIALLY if Mahomes hurts that ankle again trying to compensate for the pressure allowed.

Agreed. The best thing you can do is not put yourself in that position to begin with. Pre snap stuff is preventable. The six to eight inches Ford thought he was getting cost KC a chance at the SB.

At the very least, and I am of course very pro mahomes…. The last bengals loss was on the offense and it was mostly mahomes. It’s not so much the lack of scoring. It’s that we kept putting our defense in bad spots and doing real bad extending drives.

Lets also remember, Andy Reid is an awesome coach that has gotten good production from some pretty average QB's. He's backed off with Mahomes because he can but this is a game for Reid to do what he does.

Fyp

How about just don't say anything?

Seriously, we ALL know how you feel about this game. Nobody cares. We're going to enjoy this week and we're going to enjoy it even more when the Chiefs win.

It’s also a product of the genius that is Andy Reid. Take a look at the opening game of that 2017 season. It was KC vs NE and the Chiefs lit up that defense……….with Alex Smith!

FWIW, I won $100 on a scratcher ticket the other day, I think it's a sign. :)

We are back. LFG.

And yes, I'm going a little overboard in saying don't say literally anything at all.

But that's to illustrate that you're going completely over the top as well.

There's nothing wrong with discussing strengths and weaknesses. But when all you ever do is point out weaknesses and don't add anything else to the discussion, what do you expect people to think?

Nah, it's fun to play heel once in a while.

Huh? I'm not only being negative. I'm genuinely ecstatic Hardman is going to be back. He could be one of the deciding factors if the Bengals can't get overly aggressive with their blitz packages to account for him.

Hardman, Toney and Thuney all missed the last game...

Then why has DeMeco Ryans been getting interviews? I don’t think teams view him as a Rooney Rule interview.

Some things that has me wondering.

This was the situation in the regular season game.

1. They were at home.

2. They had their best OL available

3. We had no Toney, Hardman, Thuney or Clyde

4. Juju had just returned from an injury and still wasn't 100%

5. Our defensive rookies were less experienced

6. Tre Flowers (the guy they used to help double Kelce) was healthy

And with all that we lead going into the fourth quarter and they needed a fumble and missed FG in order to win by three.

Now everything I listed above will be flipped on sunday.

1. We're at home

2. They have three backup OL guys playing

3. Toney, Hardman, Thuney and maybe Clyde will play

4. Juju is healthy

5. Our rookies have way more games under their belts now.

6. Tre Flowers is banged up and may miss this game like he did the Bills one

Now these things might not mean anything come Sunday.. but the fact is they had things way more in their favour the last time we played them and it was only a three point game and they needed a little fortune to go their way.

I rewatched the most recent games against Jaguars & Raiders yesterday. Toney jumps off the screen as a difference maker. He has not been part of any game with the Bengals so far. He not only has tremendous quickness & speed to help pick up first downs, he also seems to be a pretty physical runner at times.

Being excited about CEH coming back is like being excited the cancer you fought into remission returned. **** all the way of with that nonsense. He can sit on the sidelines with Moore

ROFL

Gotta give credit where it's due.

This.
Toney is a playmaker. Every time he gets the ball it is electric. Like Hill, he is one of those quick, shifty, explosive, AND fast players that can make huge plays out of nothing.

JJSS = consistent, possession receiver who can get you a first when needed. Reliable. A solid WR all around.

MVS = fast, but poor catching.

Skyy Moore = not a good rookie outing by any means.

Watson = speedy, inconsistent catching.

Hardman = fast & quick, but has been hurt. REALLY good on jet sweeps. Average route runner.

Toney = playmaker. The guy who is a threat every time he touches the ball. Someone you must account for, else you will pay.

And then of course you have our #1 receiver, Kelce. First ballot HOF, GOAT. Enough said.

I would rather not have CEH playing. Everything else you mentioned sounds quite positive. Of course there is now a major negative and unknown with Mahomes' ankle. I hate the fact he has to spend a ton of time this week dealing with treatment for this injury.

If nothing else, the injury is a distraction from preparing in a healthy manner for the game. I would rather Patrick be able to focus 100% on football in the days leading up to the game. We know he's not going to be 100% healthy for at least a few weeks, so it's also possible the injury will be a legit problem during the game on top of being a distraction this week.

One thing that is not getting enough coverage is how big a contribution the Bengals can make at the Pro Bowl in Las Vegas.

The NFL announced this evening that QB Joe Burrow, WR Ja'Marr Chase and DE Trey Hendrickson have been voted to the AFC team for the 2023 Pro Bowl Games.

Additionally, seven Bengals have been voted as alternates for the AFC team. S Jessie Bates III is a second alternate, WR Tyler Boyd and HB Joe Mixon are both third alternates, K Evan McPherson is a fourth alternate, and S Vonn Bell, C Ted Karras and DT DJ Reader are fifth alternates.

Look at that list and tell me the AFC will not dominate dodgeball.

No way the NFC can hang in patty cake and hopscotch with these Bengals guys.

He's got six td's this year which Is third most to Kelce and Mckinnon. As much as he sucks running the ball, he knows how to score touchdowns and that's all that matters at the end of the day.

They're all great players but I think I'd trade them all for a healthy Mahomes, if we're being honest.

Hopefully their addition will help the offensive supporting cast keep Mahomes upright all game.. that would be a dream.

Unfortunately for Toney his gift is also a curse. Hopefully the Chiefs can get it tuned down a tick or just replace his hamstrings with titanium bands and be done with it.

Mahomes is going to be fine.

Not really. Once McKinnon fully took his place and got acclimated to the workload he's just proven himself to be a far superior CEH in virtually every way.

This game will be pants shitting, lil' Chiefy will need lots of spaghetti

At the moment I just want Toney to stay healthy for all of this Bengals game. If that's the case, it's at least one new challenge for the Bengals defense that they've never faced with KC. If he makes it through the Bengals game healthy and the Chiefs win it, obviously you hope for a repeat in the Super Bowl.

One game at a time with Toney. If he's able to be healthy for Playoff runs like Sammy Watkins, the Toney trade was totally worth it. Watkins was a very expensive veteran player, whereas Toney is on a cheap rookie contract. You can afford to have him miss 50% of the regular season games, but you hope he can be there for the Playoffs like Sammy.

He practiced in full and is watching tons of tape whilst he receives treatment. They will already have their game plan in mind so I dont think the treatment will distract him from his study work tbh.

Any touch MEH gets over Pacheco or Mckinnon would be a wasted down. Hopefully he doesn't even get activated.

JuJu, McKinnon and others will need to step up as I expect double coverage on Kelce all day.

In our best performances of the season (Arizona, Tampa and Niners) Clyde scored in all three games and made a big impact. Having all three of Pacheco, Jet and Clyde out there can only help the team imo.

So, this is interesting.

CIN happens to be the worst defense vs. 13 personnel two years running, pass or rushing.

KC is the number 1 offense in 13 personnel in 2022, pass or rushing.

Pacheco/McKinnon might be the surprise heroes of this game should KC win on Sunday.