Nail on the ****ing head. He's not fooling anybody.

Boy this sure sounds like 49ers SB doesn’t it?

49ers were 2nd in the league in rushing
Scored most TD’s rushing in NFL
Talented team that made carried a QB who basically did the bare minimum
Strong pass rush
Game manager QB that is not elite

Eery how similar this is

All that really needs to be said about the Mahomes 'debate' is that any time a quarterback beats him, that quarterback starts to get talked about as "The best in the NFL..."

Beat Allen or Burrow or Herbert or whoever else it is they're trying to prop up and there's really nothing that comes of it. But every time someone has beaten Patrick Mahomes (other than Matt Ryan), that guy suddenly gets "You know, I think [x] might be the best in the league right now..."

It's the corollary to the idea that "You judge greatness by its graveyard..."

The fact that guys get boosts simply by virtue of beating Mahomes says all that needs be said.

Can Hurts connect on that pass to Sanders that Grapes misfired on?

It's really an unknown at this point. But there's an EXCELLENT chance that the game comes down to Hurts' right arm at some point and probably a single play made/not made.

Except Hurts can run where Grapes could not.

I wouldn't count on the Eagles to stop running like Shanahan did if they're able to get a lead.

We can't fall behind early this time.

When Pat stands on the dais accepting the 2 SB trophy in 4 years, the talk of any other QB being in his league will be null and void. (It already is, but for the sake of the discussion, I’ll play along.)

It’s going to be a close game. Since week 13 this team this team has played 6 one score games and won all but one (Cinci in Cinci).

I think this team is led by a king who will not lose. And I’m pretty sure this team remembers how N. Suh took advantage of a soft OLINE to rough Pat up in the scrums of that game.

Nick Sirianni is not going to have as good of a gameplan as Kyle Shanahan so we'll see if it even gets to that point.

The Eagles are the better team and the healthier team.

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Suck a dick bundle of sticks.

You still haven't responded to the Eagles weak ass schedule including the postseason. Because you don't have an argument.

I'd argue that Saleh is better than Gannon too.

They blew out both of their post-season opponents which is what a team does who is a wagon like they are.
In terms of the regular season, you only can play who is front of you. If Hurts does not hurt his shoulder they probably would have gone 16-1.

They haven't played a single legitimate contender minus the 49ers with their 4th string QB.

You're clueless.

The guy who trolls for a living is back.

The NFC for sure was the weaker conference. And their luck continues getting Mahomes on a bad ankle and the other injuries to the WRs.

I'm impressed the Eagles won easily over terrible opponents all year, stunning development.

I’m rooting as hard for KC to win as you are. This is the NFL, so I respect their opponents. It’s not like KC is blowing out other teams by 30 points every week, which you see with college or high school powerhouse teams. In fact this season KC has been pretty far short of the betting spread fairly often. There’s no point in being arrogant before the games IMHO.

Mahomes is part of the reason they have struggled to live up to their potential. I’ve never said the dude is perfect and I’ve criticized him pretty often on here. My biggest complaint with him is the tendency to force the deep ball on 3rd down. He’s not accurate enough to be wasting 3rd down like that. Patrick’s fumble the other night was a horrible mistake and I posted that in the game thread. Forcing the ball into coverage is a problem as well. He needs to improve on the turnovers. He had 12 INT this season and I would like to see that number knocked down to 6 INT, or even less in future seasons.

Mahomes is going to be much healthier than he was on Sunday with an extra week to rest.

Also, other than Hardman, our WRs and other injured players should be back.

Every loss or near loss that they had came down to them not running the ball well.

That’s where we win. Make them one dimensional.

And man Bolton, Gay and Chenal are a significantly better LB corps than Ragland, Hitchens and Wilson

The Chiefs have the best overall player at the most important position.

...and TE... and DT... and HC... and GM...

A coaching staff going through the Super Bowl prep for the first time and also trying to juggle this…

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Thanks man. The trenches and the young buck corners. They did great against Chase and Tee, albeit the Cincy line was in shambles. Hurts should get more time than Sheisty did.

The Eagles M.O. for most of the year has been to start with passing. If throwing the rock isn't going as expected, the O-Line usually takes over the game, imposes their will on the D and the trio of backs run rampant.

Don't let Sal Paolantonio win.

UhOh

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LMAO

Thanks for the good mojo KnowMo! Worked out real well for you last week!

ROFL

Well Hardman is out. That blows

It would be pretty funny if the Chiefs went out there and went full Washington on them.

Because those boys just shoved Philly around for 60 minutes.

But positive news on JuJu and Toney. I'll take 2 of 3.

That's not including Sneed and Gay who both are on track to play as well. If we can't have em all back, at least it's the guy we've been playing without for most of the last several weeks.

Credit due for trying to gut through it in the AFCCG.

He just hasn't been able to get healthy.

I’ve seen this movie twice.

Once in Tampa

Once in SF.

I know the results.

And it's better to know now as this is a heavy installs week.

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Actually I believe the correct caption would be "The Eagles defensive line will have their hands full with Patrick Mahomes."

Correct. If Hardman is the "odds are they won't all be able to play" guy, I think that's best case scenario from a realistic standpoint. I honestly thought we had seen the end of Hardman this season months ago. Kudos for him for giving it a shot.

So Andy expects Toney to be back soon and JuJu to be back for the SB?

That's fantastic

Mahomes played against every guy but Reddick last year and scored 42 points with 5 TD’s and only got sacked once LMAO

He sounded optimistic that they will both play.

Suh also joined them recently. I know how dirty that guy is. Won’t surprise me if he tries to injure Chiefs OL, RB, & QB.

What? Did I miss that in one of the megathreads?

Andy said he was doubtful he'll play, but nothing official.

Andy said he's doubtful Hardman wil play in the SB

Andy said he's doubtful he'll play

I remember wanting Suh back in the day during that draft. He was gone and we ended up with Berry instead.

Jk. Thanks, guys.

That's a bummer. I feel like Hardman would have been a great matchup for us if he was somehow lined up on a guy like Slay.

I think this Eagles team is better than the SF one we beat in the SB. More mobile QB, more complete OL, at least as good DL with more depth, better WRs. Plus we're more banged up. Winning with this many rookies would be an unreal achievement.

But I guess I've just seen enough of Mahomes to pretty much disregard whatever roster disadvantage we may have and see it, at worst, as a 50-50.

As others have said stopping the run feels like it's key. I think if Gay, Chenal and Bolton play well and don't get sucked into coverage mismatches I think we have a great chance. I have no idea what we do to protect Wylie, that's not going to be fun to watch.

To me the Chiefs roster is far more talented than people seem to think. A lot of that is because Mahomes is who he is. KC has made a living out of beating talented teams. I also think if there was a team capable of knocking Philly out of their game plan it is this one. I am a Hurts fan but I just don’t think he will be 100% for the game and if that’s the case their offense becomes far more limited.

The guy in your avatar is overrated.

Yeah I think our defensive roster for sure is better than the one we had in 2019.

Offensively, we've been just as good.

We'll see what happens.

Good lord, Mahomes broke your dumb ass

It’s for the best.

Dude clearly isn’t close to 100% and we need healthier players for the SB.

I've got it - it's stupid like a fox.

Jerrion motha****in' Ealy.

Ealy's quick, played RB in college but has been running WR reps on the practice squad. We're down bodies in the WR room and surely he can go take some of these bubble screens or jet action reps, right?

Elevate our boy Ealy to do some of the Hardman stuff - the Eagles will never see it coming...

I like it.

I mean if it's him or, say, Ihmir Smith-Marsette, you gotta spin the wheel on Ealy, right?

I'm reaching deep here, fellas...

The Eagles racked up 70 sacks in the regular season. Impressive. Here's who the majority of those sacks came against:

Carson Wentz - 9 sacks
Kenny Pickett - 6 sacks
Matt Ryan - 4 sacks
Ryan Tannehill - 6 sacks
Daniel Jones - 7 sacks
Justin Fields - 6 sacks
Dak Prescott - 6 sacks
Andy Dalton - 7 sacks

51 of their 70 sacks came against those 8 QB's. 5 of those lines ranked among the Bottom 10 pass blocking lines in the league, per pass blocking win rate. 2 of them did rank in the Top 10 (Bears and Steelers).

Would you say the above list is an impressive list of QB's? Any Top 10 QB's in there??

How bout the playoffs:

Divisional: Daniel Jones, again. 5 more sacks for the Eagles.

NFC Title Game:

QB's faced:

One armed Brock Purdy, no armed Josh Johnson, and everyone's favorite running QB; Christian McCaffrey.

They managed 3 combined sacks against this collection of elite QB's.


So taking all that into account, are their sack numbers really as impressive as they look on the surface?


QB they will be facing in the Super Bowl? That would be Patrick Mahomes. The best QB in football. The soon to be annointed MVP. The guy that plays behind the #1 O-Line in the league for pass block win rate. The 3rd least sacked QB in the NFL among QB's with at least 400 pass attempts.


We'll see if the Eagles pass rushing 'dominance' continues against Kansas City in the Super Bowl . . . . . .

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Recap:

Chiefs have a 4 or 5 star advantage at red zone rushing, defending when pressuring QBs, and passes under 10 yards.

Sounds like a recipe for driving the ball, scoring TDs, and keeping the Eagles offense off the field.

They will now. Thanks a lot. You know that coaching staff has been reading CP. :D

If you aren’t holding the Chiefs to field goals in the red zone, you aren’t winning

I think it would be Clyde.

He’s not a good runner but as a receiver he can make people miss. He ran routes in college quite well.

Just never understood why we didn’t tap into that? He wants a between the tackles runner.

Juju and Toney are playing

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What have opposing DCs said about Patrick Mahomes play lately and the new style the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#chiefs</a> have created on offense? Plus a number of Mahomes’ weapons are not practicing today. Here is who you need to be worried about. My report on NFL NOW on <a href="https://twitter.com/nflnetwork?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nflnetwork</a> <a href="https://t.co/QK2mIU99fa">pic.twitter.com/QK2mIU99fa</a></p>&mdash; James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/1621220102032048137?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 2, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Will Sneed continue his recent trend of shadowing WR1 and travel with Brown? Critical matchup.

Good question, but I hope so.

Ideally, Sneed would trail Brown and McDuffie would be covering Smith for the majority of the game.

PHI is not that great vs. the run, though I doubt Ady will spend a ton of snaps trying to expose that weakness. But they're also not very good vs. TEs, which is interesting.

Sidenote: Vic Fangio is PHI defensive consultant.

You have to think they're going to do everything they can to lock Travis down, though exactly how remains a mystery. I expect Fangio will have much to say about that.

Obviously KC needs to effectively shut down their run game in the first half and force Jalen to move the ball and score efficiently as a passer, something he hasn't been very good at since returning from his shoulder injury.

you look at his statlines from the last couple games, and he's basically Ryan Tannehill from the 2019 AFCCG or Jimmy G./SBLIV, two QBs that struggled to be efficient through the air in the playoffs and relied heavily on their respective run games to win their playoff games before running into the Chiefs. Not saying that Jalen is as average as Tannehill/Jimmy, but that injury might be a bigger issue than most are considering.

Hardman isn’t playing per the guys on the radio

Even if Toney plays, there’s a good chance he won’t be able to finish the game. Dude is made of glass. I hope they don’t scheme too much of the game plan around him.

That MVS catch at the 1:02 mark is obviously a thing

I just watched that. The Eagles have the next gen advantage in intermediate passes, rushing between the tackles and QB scrambles.

You're such a negative miserable ****.

Just like when you said Mahomes broke his ankle.

Must suck not even being able to be optimistic during the golden age of Chiefs football.

You’re sooo sensitive. Why do you take differing opinions so personally? Are you implying that Toney isn’t injury prone?

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I'm not just going to assume that he won't even make it through the game if he plays. Sure, it's possible, but the fact that your mind goes there in response to good news speaks volumes.

take him off punt returns

ride or skyy

You can’t handle any honest critique of chiefs players without melting down. I like Toney. He’s a good player but he is injury prone. How is that a controversial statement?

It's not a controversial statement. I don't even disagree.

I'm clearly talking about your immediate assumption that he won't even make it through the game in response to the good news that he's looking like he'll play.

Again, you did the same negative bullshit with Mahomes ankle. There's a pattern.

I think last week game really showed what a contributor Justin Watson has been for us. He has been an excellent role player that has proven to step up when needed to take attention away from Kelce when double teamed.

I’m glad he’s back

I'd rather it be Smith-Marsette.

BLEH sucks.

I know a lot of people here aren't high on Watson, but having him back is a big help, in my opinion. His size and speed has to be accounted for. Other than that stretch where he had the dropsies, he's been pretty dependable.

Wow.

If we have both Juju and Toney we win this game.