Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 13598247)

Will be interesting to see if his last outing was just a bad day.

@Matt_Winkelman: Looking at it a bit deeper, I get why the Royals moved Herrera now, especially only getting maybe 75 cents on the dollar. Velocity and results have trended down each month

Originally Posted by chuxtrux (Post 13598288)

I watched probably every Royals game between 1999-2011, then because of a new job and a crazy work schedule I haven't been able to follow them the last 5-6 years so I can't speak for that time. This is the first year I can actually sit down and watch them again. I have to say this is by far the worst pitching staff I have ever seen.

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 13598328)

Quite possible this was DMs first admission Busta Starling is finished as a prospect. It's obv now that Perkins the CF is the best piece. Why trade for him if you like Starling?

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 13598328)

Quite possible this was DMs first admission Busta Starling is finished as a prospect. It's obv now that Perkins the CF is the best piece. Why trade for him if you like Starling?

Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan (Post 13598358)

I'm not trying to be snarky here...but you trade for Perkins to have another player with tools in your system, whether Starling is a bust or not. One doesn't have t have anything to do with the other when you're in the Royals position of needing to load your system back up. Everything and everyone is either an asset for a better future ballclub or for trading to make a better ballclub.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13597759)

I’m not sure they got an everyday player. Rutherford is a good defender and has plus speed, plus is a switch hitter.

Gutierrez is the biggest upside piece, 3Bwith good contact skills and some raw power.

I like trading with the Nats because they have a great, deep system and develop players well...

But would trade Kieboom for all 3 of those guys. Guessing that either wasn’t on the table or the Royals didn’t want all eggs in one basket.

Also: if that’s the return Herrera fetches, Moustakas will be so disappointing I don’t know it’s even worth making a deal.

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 13598187)

Anyone think Whit will get a better haul at least on paper then Herrera did? Even if it's 1 player, I feel like he has more value then moose right now

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 13598408)

I’d like to think we can’t do worse than the Herrera trade, but this organization seems to be back in the mode of finding new lows.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13598169)

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Best case for Perkins would be something like Dyson ... except without the platoon split. If he could provide that defense and 90 percent of the baserunning with the offensive profile Dyson has against RHP, that’s a star, and I think that’s what they’re banking on.

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 13598408)

I’d like to think we can’t do worse than the Herrera trade, but this organization seems to be back in the mode of finding new lows.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13598403)

A scouts trade all the way and one fans would really struggle to get a read on. I don't think Gutierrez is the biggest piece, though - I'd say Parker is the best combination of ability and floor while Morel looks to be the highest upside play.



The problem is that Morel's pretty much impossible for us to judge. He's in the DSL, which is like two steps below short season ball. He's genuinely 7-8 steps removed from the big leagues at this point - there's no way for any of us to get a read on a guy like that. It's fair to wonder how the Nationals got him a year ago as a UDFA on a pittance of a contract and now suddenly the Royals are trading one of their better assets to get him - where was Moore a year ago? But beyond that, I just don't know how anyone can give a good read on him.



Guiterrez - meh. Organizational piece; a poor man's Cuthbert. I'd be surprised if he ever 'won' a job on a major league team apart from being an injury fill-in.



Parker's defense will get him to the bigs. I really like his approach at the plate and the fact that he's been able to learn to switch hit as a professional without cratering is really impressive; says a lot about his natural hit tool, IMO.



I think in time you could get a reasonable facsimile to Jarrod Dyson. I don't think he has Dyson's raw speed, but he's fast. I like him as a potential defense heavy 2-3 win player in CF. Nobody that's going to be a true impact player but a possible starter.



Morel makes/breaks the trade in all likelihood but if Parker just becomes something of a poor man's Dyson, that's a pretty good return in its own right.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13598581)

Much different situation trading a guy with a ton of control left than a half season.

Merrifield should yield a really strong return. Pretty close to what the Nats yielded for Eaton.




All 3 of those pieces have the potential to pay off the trade and then some. Gutierrez’s offensive profile plays a lot better as a 2B or util guy, but he could be a really valuable one.