Probably Greinke? Haven’t found a single top of the rotation starter who developed in KC since that piece of shit Dayton Moore was hired.

Yordano Ventura

Well I guess he’s the one exception, but unfortunately we never really got to see him establish himself as a top of the rotation starter. Can’t blame anyone for that. But still, **** Dayton Moore.

DM won a WS here. That automatically means he was a great hire and a member of our HOF. Not happy with the decline obv but doesn’t detract from winning it all. He had mostly losing seasons but that’s life as a small market. As good as Tampa has been last 15 years they’re still under .500 all time


I highly doubt Picolo ever wins a WS here. I’d bet anything he doesn’t

Moore getting a WS was pretty obviously blind luck.

At this point I'd be happy if the Royals were just a decent team but yea right.

Won a World Series dumb****

Yes and the 2 winning seasons in like 30 years is ok right?

I'm sorry but the absurd levels of suck this franchise has been at for 99% of the time is pretty laughable, like you'd almost have to try to suck that bad on purpose.

You can’t get lucky in MLB. The pipeline of development is too long and the rosters are so evenly balanced (your star hitter only comes to the plate every 9x etc). You can draft a Mahomes or Jokich and immediately vault to the top of those sports but obv mlb doesn’t work at all like that

He (1) had the best all time Baseball America prospect list in 2011, (2) made the gutsy Greinke AND Myers deals and (3) had a huge FA offseason in winter 2015.

He absolutely did not luck into that title. No way

In a way he did because if you actually go through the lists of how championship teams were built, calling up an entire farm system of players at once and having it work out, never happens. All of the pitching failures, somehow getting competent play from Kendrys Morales, Chris Young etc

There was a level of luck to it, it's why when people point at this form of rebuild it's like what happened last time isn't the norm..what's more normal is you find 4-5 guys you keep around to be part of the next wave of guys and you don't really contend until that has happened 3 times.

Yeah, there was a bit of luck involved. But he also made key transactions that were ultimately instrumental in us winning the title. You can simultaneously be incredibly disappointed in how he performed most years and also acknowledge he did have a very good run there for a couple years.

Ok Dayton Moore had 2 good seasons in his entire tenure.

The championship teams were absolutely elite by a wide margin at making contact, playing defense and of course the bullpen. The thing no one ever talks about is other teams started copying what the Royals did. Not exactly the same way of course, but the Astros leaned hard into making contact, the Rays put a really great defense out there and now everyone has a bullpen full of power arms. No one will ever directly credit the Royals for that, but those are all things they did better than everyone else when they "broke" the game and were supposedly a fluke.

So is your argument that once the rest of the league caught on the Royals were incapable of pivoting? They were a 1 trick pony that couldn't adjust to stay relevant?

Yep. Attacked those inefficiencies in baseball incredibly well. While the rest of the league were shifting into power the Royals went all in on contact, defense, speed, and bullpen.

Our pitching was an excellent in 2015. We were 3rd in AL era and 6th in runs Scored. We had the only 2 guys he ever produced in the rotation along with Volquez who was really solid. Chris Young was a good 5th alongside Kris Medlen (15-8 with a 3.60 era from that slot)

Also, he dumped a sack of garbage onto Cinci for Jon E Qweddo which only made the rotation that much better. The Pen was so good it doesn’t require mention here