Why do you hate Frank Clark so much?

Why are you nostalgically praising Dee Ford?

Why is this becoming a dick measuring contest when all we need is a healthy Patrick?

Inquiring minds want to know...

And yet they traded for Clowney to play his position at far more $ in 2019...

I don't hate Clark. I hate that he's playing like ass on a large contract.

I thought the decision was bad one when it all went down. It's not about praising Dee Ford, it's about stating that Clark wasn't worth it at the time because he wasn't that type of massive improvement you'd expect for such compensation. There wasn't enough of a difference, in my opinion, nor statistically, to warrant Veach making that decision.

I don't care about dick size, the woman I **** is happier than hell with mine. It is about looking at things rationally and I don't think many are with regards to the entire thought process that went into this entire debacle. Apparently others think Clark was light years better than I ever saw him against the run. I never agreed with Veach's decision and it's looking more and more like I never will. I'm really starting to dislike Veach as a whole. You look at Hitchens and Clark and have to wonder. You look at his drafts so far and they are a bit of a head-scratcher, but the 2019 draft does have more promise than the 2018 one. Luckily he stumbled into Thornhill, the guy had no business being there that late.

At least Ogbah is playing well for his money.

The Houston who played for the chiefs last season was better than the Clark playing for the chiefs this season..

The Seahawks run defense was 27th in the league. Who’s fault was that? Frank Clark’s of course. It was all his fault. 10 other guys were shutting down the run but not Frank Clark. He’d run away from the RB every time that they ran the ball at him.

:rolleyes:

You think it's worth 100+ million and a 1st and 2nd round pick for a DE that's on pace for less than six sacks?

And if Houston was playing like Clark is now....people would be screaming for Veach to be fired because Houston was making $20 million this season and not doing dick. We’d just have an extra CB in here now that we wouldn’t be bitching about.

And what were you saying after Houston got his new contract and then proceeded to play 16 games in 2 years and get 11.5 sacks?

That’s why I’m choosing to ignore his rebuttal. What a ****ing joke of an argument. He tried to use tackle stats to show that a Ford and Clark are pretty much the same against the run too. What a ****ing moron.

Because they got him for a ****ing 3rd round pick because the Texans went full reerun with no GM LMAO

Are you suggesting they had the foresight to know this would happen? They would’ve gladly let Clark play on the tag just like Clowney is. This is a terrible rebuttal.

What it comes down to is this.

Was it worth what we gave up? No. I wasn’t a fan of what we gave up at the time and I probably never be.

Does that mean that Frank Clark is a garbage player because he got hurt his first year? **** no.

The two can be separated and judged on their own. FFS.

Sure. But at least we wouldn't be out a first and second round pick.

He had 3 sacks in 6 games before his injury. 1 sack in the first 5 games. That's horrible. Unless you're talking about his elbows. But then that would raise the question of why we traded so much and gave so much to a player with ****ed up elbows.

No, reerun, my eyeballs showed me that the 2018 version of Dee Ford was not that much worse against the run than Frank Clark. The stats just reinforce it.

When Frank Clark gets washed out by the tackle so they run at his area over and over again, you go ahead and count. The Colts had several big gains because he got washed out or didn't maintain his assignment on a cutback, as an example.

If you want to be blinded, ****ing go for it.

If you’re making your argument about the eye test than you are even dumber than I thought. How anybody can say they’ve watched these two and it’s a marginal difference is beyond me.

Again, Ford is so ****ing bad that the 49ers have put him in a situational pass rusher role despite paying him big money and trading away a 2nd. What the **** do you not get about this?