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BigCatDaddy 08-01-2013 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 9850894)
****in' Fisher :shake:

#Safe Pick #BPA

Setsuna 08-01-2013 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9850910)
#Safe Pick #BPA

Que the True fan gif

WakkaWakka 08-01-2013 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9850809)
That's it. I'm gonna root for the Jets.

I did that when the Redskins moved up and grabbed RG3. I followed RG3 all through college so kinda just kept on following him.

RealSNR 08-01-2013 12:52 PM

I don't care if he turns into the next Tony Boselli. I'm still glad we didn't draft this fat piece of shit.

http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2013/8/...p-luke-joeckel

Sully 08-01-2013 01:02 PM

*****OFFICIAL 2013 Kansas City Chiefs Training Camp Thread*****
 
Went today. My brief and humble thoughts...

I miss River Falls. Much easier to get around. Much better sight lines. Better to see the whole of the action without moving around a ton.

That said...

Standouts:
Really hard to tell, as it was rarely 1s vs 1s, but,

Albert
Hudson
Charles
Hemingway
Poe and Powe
Houston
D Johnson
Sean smith
Edgar Jones
DeVito

Not bad, but not great
T Jax
Chavis
Schwartz
Toribio
Wylie
Fisher

Had a bad day;
Alex Smith
Baldwin
Kush (awful)


I wasn't terribly impressed with Knile Davis. Thought he played soft.
I see the intrigue with Bray. Looks the part. Amazing arm.
Smith was bad, even against air. I refuse to bitch and moan about him. There's enough of that on the board, and it's boring as hell. Plus, what's done is done. Obviously it's just one day... But he looked BAD.
Kelce had a rough morning. Missed a couple, and fumbled during two-minute.
Wylie looks real good. Quick and fast. Lets hope he can stay out of the tub.
A lot more motion and shifts than we've seen, maybe since the Vermiel days.
Not a ton of yelling by the coaches. Lots of teaching. But it's still very disciplined. I think they have the respect of the players, and don't have to peel paint to keep it.
I really like the little things they are working on, that I never really saw in previous camps. Hand placement and replacement. Hip movement to beat blocks. Alignment. Playing vs pulls, traps and doubles. Very intentional drills, rather than busywork that I feel I used to see. To expand, what I mean is, in the river falls days, you'd see the lines hit the hell out of the sleds. While that's important, that type of movement is only part of what builds skills on the line. They hit the sleds today, but also then worked on those other things I mentioned, which will make them (hopefully) better at shedding blocks and being part of the play. The same thing was happening Offensively. Just very intentional drills focused on body movements they'll actually use rather than pushing a sled 20 yards.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-01-2013 01:14 PM

But DJ said Bray didn't look the part...bad mechanics, etc...

Sully 08-01-2013 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9851097)
But DJ said Bray didn't look the part...bad mechanics, etc...

I haven't read what else people have said, and I admit, I'm far from a pro scout. But in my humble opinion, he's got some tools to work with.

Rasputin 08-01-2013 01:17 PM

If Eric Fisher doesn't get his shit together and show his worth as a 1.1 pick or even fairly does a decent job this year, then Brandon Albert price tag goes up. Brandon Albert is going be sitting pretty at the bank next spring. His worth will go up if Fisher isn't anything the Chiefs were hoping for.

KC_Lee 08-01-2013 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Clayton Bibsby (Post 9850938)
Que the True fan gif

Laz will neg rep me for this :D but when asked for...

http://i41.tinypic.com/2n66pf.jpg

RealSNR 08-01-2013 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9851115)
If Eric Fisher doesn't get his shit together and show his worth as a 1.1 pick or even fairly does a decent job this year, then Brandon Albert price tag goes up. Brandon Albert is going be sitting pretty at the bank next spring. His worth will go up if Fisher isn't anything the Chiefs were hoping for.

That was always the danger with the Fisher pick. Frankly, I was stunned we picked him over Joeckel. The small school thing can mean a far bigger adjustment that needs to get made.

Fisher will be fine, but it's possible he gets drafted to be a starting LT, gets set in at RT for a few years like Oher or Bulaga, and just never makes the switch back. And frankly, I'd be fine with that. At least that would mean we'd be keeping Albert.

Bulaga is switching to LT this year for the Packers. We'll see how he does. If his play during his rookie year was any sign for us, though, it means Fisher may need some time to struggle and figure things out. Again, usually there's nothing wrong with that, but when you draft a position like RT at 1.1, the expectations are way above the norm, even for most high-profile 1st round OTs.

Dayze 08-01-2013 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9850794)

got I hate Merril Hodge. and his dumbass big not ties.
WTF.

Dayze 08-01-2013 01:29 PM

too Bad for Bray that no matter how awesome he is, and no matter how shitty Smiff is, he'll never see the field. Smith is the starter for at least 3 years.

Rasputin 08-01-2013 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9851136)
That was always the danger with the Fisher pick. Frankly, I was stunned we picked him over Joeckel. The small school thing can mean a far bigger adjustment that needs to get made.

Fisher will be fine, but it's possible he gets drafted to be a starting LT, gets set in at RT for a few years like Oher or Bulaga, and just never makes the switch back. And frankly, I'd be fine with that. At least that would mean we'd be keeping Albert.

Bulaga is switching to LT this year for the Packers. We'll see how he does. If his play during his rookie year was any sign for us, though, it means Fisher may need some time to struggle and figure things out. Again, usually there's nothing wrong with that, but when you draft a position like RT at 1.1, the expectations are way above the norm, even for most high-profile 1st round OTs.


Suppose Fisher struggles too much and the coaches don't think he is good enough for RT. Would they then move him inside to RG and draft another RTotf? This is worst case scenario imo as what a waist of a pick that would be for 1.1

Dayze 08-01-2013 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9851164)
Suppose Fisher struggles too much and the coaches don't think he is good enough for RT. Would they then move him inside to RG and draft another RTotf? This is worst case scenario imo as what a waist of a pick that would be for 1.1

yuck. that would definitely Strike 2 for Andy/Dorsey

Rasputin 08-01-2013 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9851146)
got I hate Merril Hodge. and his dumbass big not ties.
WTF.



Yeah no shit. He started in on Geno Smith accuracy problems and I was like yeah bull shit. His TD INT ratio speaks for itself.


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