Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17361876)

Well, at least you're not calling us racists for saying Lamar is a RB. Which he is, by the way.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17361889)

Oh, come on. If Lamar Jackson had accomplished in six seasons what Mahomes has, you'd be just as confident in his abilities.

The FLOOR for a Mahomes-QB'd season is losing in OT of the AFC championship game.

Chiefs fans have seen Mahomes elevate his own roster over more "complete" teams with less at QB time and again. They have seen him win healthy, they have seen him win injured. They have seen him win lighting up opposing teams with the passing game. They have seen him lighting up opposing teams with clutch play after clutch.

They won the Super Bowl against two teams that were "stacked" and more complete and better than KC, with indomitable defenses that were purported to be capable of shutting Mahomes down. He faced one of them with a badly sprained ankle that he re-sprained in the first half.

So yeah, of course, on their OWN message board, Chiefs fans are confident in his ability and point to him as a reason they are confident. He has performed miracles on the football field for this team time and again, enough that if we were talking Catholisiscm here, you could apply for his Sainthood many times over.

The Ravens are at home and have a better all-around roster. They have a star QB, and a strong defense. Most of the Chiefs fans here and most of the discussion in this thread before Ravens fans dipped their toes in was about how this was a tough game and a coin flip, with many even saying the odds are with the Ravens.

And I'll leave with again sharing with you the history of this BB in the Mahomes era:

1. Chiefs make AFC title game or Super Bowl
2. Opposing fans start showing up
3. Opposing fans start out nice, then get surprised the Chiefs fans here are supremely confident
4. Opposing fans start chirping about whatever their perceived edge is (19 Titans: Derrick Henry + beating KC in regular season; 19 49ers: Stacked roster, #1 defense; 20 Bills: stacked roster, alien QB, #1 defense, hot team; 21 Bills: stacked roster, alien QB, #1 defense, revenge; 22 Bengals: stacked offense, defense that has Reid/Mahomes' number, alien QB with edge on Mahomes, Mahomes is hurt; 22 Eagles: stacked offense, alien QB, #1 defense)
5. Chiefs fans respond by saying "oh, this again." and point to the history of knocking off these teams with the perceived edge
6. Chiefs go win, anyway.

It's old hat.

Final statement: Of opposing fans who have found their way here and gone through this cycle, you have the potential to stick around and have fun no matter the outcome. That's rare.

Now go chug some antifreeze and throw yourself into a flaming dumpster filled with AIDS needles.

Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 17361930)

This Ravens defense is excellent in the red zone, and we know the Chiefs this year have kicked a few too many field goals. That's a strength on a weakness to keep an eye on.

But really, if the focus issues are cleaned up, and we're now dealing with a team that's avoiding dumb penalties and drops, I'd expect the red zone offense to return to an elite level.

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17361892)

In 10 games Mark had 45 Rec for 544 yards woth 6 TDs

In 17 games Kelce had 81 Rec for 838 yards 5 TDs.

In 7 more games Kelce had 36 more rec, less than 300 more yards and 1 less TD.

You tell me the top 3 TE

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17361916)

Oh shit, one extra day of rest for the Ravens?!

If only the Chiefs had experience playing with a rest deficit… oh wait, see every Chiefs game in the month of December.

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17361928)

I’m not too worried about the extra day of rest for them but I am annoyed that our defense played damn near 80 snaps in Buffalo. I’m not going to bother checking into how many snaps the Ravens D played but I’m assuming it was a lot less.

Originally Posted by PurpleOrange (Post 17361918)

Lamar's injury was a much debated topic in Baltimore last year. There are many that thought he could and should have played regardless of if he was 100% Personally I was in the other camp that thought he wasn't well enough to play but he would have played had he thought he could.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17361925)

Grunhard was talking about using a similar plan via the Bills. DL doesn't all rush. Basically create a wall with gap integrity to make Lamar sit in the pocket while having 6 defenders defending the pass.

Not sure how I feel about that

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 17361938)

Guys, I'm sooo excited about this weekend.

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17361940)

I just need to ignore the negative reputation comments

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17361892)

In 10 games Mark had 45 Rec for 544 yards woth 6 TDs

In 17 games Kelce had 81 Rec for 838 yards 5 TDs.

In 7 more games Kelce had 36 more rec, less than 300 more yards and 1 less TD.

You tell me the top 3 TE

Originally Posted by PurpleOrange (Post 17361947)

47 snaps. Ravens offense had the ball for almost 38 minutes.

There's also talk Humphrey may return this weekend for the defene, this is meaningless. He's been bad and/or hurt most of this year.

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 17361954)

Whining about it is the first step!

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17361940)

Salute!

I get it. Every other franchise is jealous that you have Mahomes. All of them/us. He's him. Anyone who doesn't recognize that doesn't know what they're looking at. And I respect that Chiefs fans appreciate this moment for what it is. The comment of mine you quoted was less serious than it was breaking balls.

That said, I do think people here, elsewhere, and in the media focus too much on quaterbacks at the expense of anything else. It's the most important position in sports, but there are other dynamics at play that matter. If they didn't, then the Ravens wouldn't have won a Super Bowl with Dilfer and Flacco. If people here genuinely hold the belief that "we have Mahomes and you don't so nothing else matters," then I do disagree. It just stunts substantive conversation to collapse everything into QB A > QB B.

So I guess I do get triggered when people frame every single topic as "Mahomes vs. Lamar" when it's "Chiefs vs. Ravens." Especially when the "Mahomes vs. Lamar" turns into acting like the only player to ever have won a Heisman and two MVPs is some fraudulent also ran simply because he's not Patrick Mahomes.

Anyway, appreciate your explanations. I would like to stick around. This place is pretty unique. I just need to ignore the negative reputation comments telling me "Hope the entire female side of your family gets ass raped tonight." Onward and upward!