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WakkaWakka 08-01-2013 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9851159)
too Bad for Bray that no matter how awesome he is, and no matter how shitty Smiff is, he'll never see the field. Smith is the starter for at least 3 years.

Same as the old boss.

Fat Elvis 08-01-2013 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9851159)
too Bad for Bray that no matter how awesome he is, and no matter how shitty Smiff is, he'll never see the field. Smith is the starter for at least 3 years.

You haven't paid any attention to Andy Reid, have you?

Rasputin 08-01-2013 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9851168)
yuck. that would definitely Strike 2 for Andy/Dorsey


Well I'm under the impression with Andy Reid that we will spend a first round pick on an O-lineman every year if it's up to him.

AdumbGuy 08-01-2013 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9851173)
Yeah no shit. He started in on Geno Smith accuracy problems and I was like yeah bull shit. His TD INT ratio speaks for itself.

I saw that and wondered what the hell he was talking about. You'd think Geno was averaging a 50% completion rate and averaging like 200 yds per game back in college based on his dumbass comments

Ace Gunner 08-01-2013 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sully (Post 9851037)
Went today. My brief and humble thoughts...

I miss River Falls. Much easier to get around. Much better sight lines. Better to see the whole of the action without moving around a ton.

That said...

Standouts:
Really hard to tell, as it was rarely 1s vs 1s, but,

Albert
Hudson
Charles
Hemingway
Poe and Powe
Houston
D Johnson
Sean smith
Edgar Jones
DeVito

Not bad, but not great
T Jax
Chavis
Schwartz
Toribio
Wylie
Fisher

Had a bad day;
Alex Smith
Baldwin
Kush (awful)


I wasn't terribly impressed with Knile Davis. Thought he played soft.
I see the intrigue with Bray. Looks the part. Amazing arm.
Smith was bad, even against air. I refuse to bitch and moan about him. There's enough of that on the board, and it's boring as hell. Plus, what's done is done. Obviously it's just one day... But he looked BAD.
Kelce had a rough morning. Missed a couple, and fumbled during two-minute.
Wylie looks real good. Quick and fast. Lets hope he can stay out of the tub.
A lot more motion and shifts than we've seen, maybe since the Vermiel days.
Not a ton of yelling by the coaches. Lots of teaching. But it's still very disciplined. I think they have the respect of the players, and don't have to peel paint to keep it.
I really like the little things they are working on, that I never really saw in previous camps. Hand placement and replacement. Hip movement to beat blocks. Alignment. Playing vs pulls, traps and doubles. Very intentional drills, rather than busywork that I feel I used to see. To expand, what I mean is, in the river falls days, you'd see the lines hit the hell out of the sleds. While that's important, that type of movement is only part of what builds skills on the line. They hit the sleds today, but also then worked on those other things I mentioned, which will make them (hopefully) better at shedding blocks and being part of the play. The same thing was happening Offensively. Just very intentional drills focused on body movements they'll actually use rather than pushing a sled 20 yards.

ya, cool, thx.

I would expect the offense to go through growing pains as the staff walks them through each phase of the PB. Now, if the offense is struggling after pre season game 2, it's time to be concerned about the whole team, because we already know what they look like with no ****ing clue on offense.

but, alas -- this is andy reid, not brian ****ing daboll.

-King- 08-01-2013 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9851159)
too Bad for Bray that no matter how awesome he is, and no matter how shitty Smiff is, he'll never see the field. Smith is the starter for at least 3 years.

Once again, that's a good thing for Bray. He hasn't shown mentally he's ready to start in year one or two. With the talent he has, best case for him is to sit and learn for a while before being thrown out in the fire and wasting his talent because he can't get the mental side down.

People preach patience with a 1st round QB. The patience has to be quadrupled with a UDFA QB, no matter how great he looks vs. 3rd team defenses in training camp.

-King- 08-01-2013 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9851097)
But DJ said Bray didn't look the part...bad mechanics, etc...

Where?

Rasputin 08-01-2013 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AdumbGuy (Post 9851205)
I saw that and wondered what the hell he was talking about. You'd think Geno was averaging a 50% completion rate and averaging like 200 yds per game back in college based on his dumbass comments


He talked about missing wide open guys. He must have been watching other games in alternative universe I guess?

Dayze 08-01-2013 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9851211)
Once again, that's a good thing for Bray. He hasn't shown mentally he's ready to start in year one or two. With the talent he has, best case for him is to sit and learn for a while before being thrown out in the fire and wasting his talent because he can't get the mental side down.

People preach patience with a 1st round QB. The patience has to be quadrupled with a UDFA QB, no matter how great he looks vs. 3rd team defenses in training camp.

oh yeah, don't get me wrong here. I was coming from the stance that there's probably a 1% chance he'll see the field regardless of how he develops physically/mentally etc. Smith won't have to worry about anything for 3 years, IMO

kepp 08-01-2013 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9851173)
Yeah no shit. He started in on Geno Smith accuracy problems and I was like yeah bull shit. His TD INT ratio speaks for itself.

And he didn't just knock Smith's accuracy, he had to narrow it down to, "he has bad accuracy when the receiver is wide open." Who cares? How many times in an NFL season does a QB get a WR that is wide open...where the coverage is blown.

mcaj22 08-01-2013 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 9851238)
And he didn't just knock Smith's accuracy, he had to narrow it down to, "he has bad accuracy when the receiver is wide open." Who cares? How many times in an NFL season does a QB get a WR that is wide open...where the coverage is blown.

didnt you watch Chiefs games last year? It happens a lot on bad teams.

Mav 08-01-2013 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9851181)
Well I'm under the impression with Andy Reid that we will spend a first round pick on an O-lineman every year if it's up to him.

Other than Danny Watkins, name one olinemen that was drafted in the first round by the Eagles?

They have drafted several D LINEMEN, and a wide receiver in recent memory. But, they usually go dline in the first round.

mcaj22 08-01-2013 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9851306)
Other than Danny Watkins, name one olinemen that was drafted in the first round by the Eagles?

They have drafted several D LINEMEN, and a wide receiver in recent memory. But, they usually go dline in the first round.

Shawn Andrews
Danny Watkins
traded first round pick for Jason Peters

three

Mav 08-01-2013 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9851319)
Shawn Andrews
Danny Watkins
traded first round pick for Jason Peters

three

Drafted mister. Jason Peters does not count lol.

So, they draft both lines apparently.

I was trying to remember the dlinemen, all I could remember was Brandon Graham, but I know they have drafted more.

To be exact: In the past 10 drafts, two of the drafts the eagles didn't have first rounders, but they have selected 5 d linemen in the first round. two offensive linemen, and a wide receiver. That's pretty stunning to me.

Rasputin 08-01-2013 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9851306)
Other than Danny Watkins, name one olinemen that was drafted in the first round by the Eagles?

They have drafted several D LINEMEN, and a wide receiver in recent memory. But, they usually go dline in the first round.


You are right it has mostly been Dlineman but I'm still expecting O-line for the Chiefs with Andy Reid. I think that is the vision he has so he can produce with his precious quarterback.


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