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ViperVisor 09-03-2013 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smiff (Post 9936111)
I'll tell you one thing. Kaep will never get 8 years of excuses from me if he plays mediocre football.

Hyperbole is a sign of smarts and credibility.

2005-2010
6 years
1 of those had a week 4 shoulder separation, ended up on IR
1 of those had a preseason shoulder fracture, all season on IR

Kaepernick 09-03-2013 07:54 PM

What is incredible is that the Alex supporters -- through their perpetual posting -- are keeping fresh on the main page of the CP Lounge, the clear unequivocal declaration...

Alex Smith did, does and always will suck.

Such irony.

Mav 09-03-2013 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 9936279)
What is incredible is that the Alex supporters -- through their perpetual posting -- are keeping fresh on the main page of the CP Lounge, the clear unequivocal declaration...

Alex Smith did, does and always will suck.

Such irony.

im sure it breaks your heart.

Alex Smiff 09-03-2013 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ViperVisor (Post 9936248)
Hyperbole is a sign of smarts and credibility.

2005-2010
6 years
1 of those had a week 4 shoulder separation, ended up on IR
1 of those had a preseason shoulder fracture, all season on IR

He's been in the league for 8 years.

LowExpectations 09-03-2013 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ViperVisor (Post 9936190)
Things didn't go well for only Smith? Its was puppies and sunshine other than that?
You just want to whitewash history now because it suits your pov now.

The real fans were the ones scapegoating Alex Smith 2006-2010?

Prion to the start of 2011 season this was posted by someone...
"Culpeper still could come in the league today and have the strongest arm in the NFL. For the people saying that Asmith is better then him, sorry disagree 100%, give Dante a chance to go against Alex and I will put my $ on DC all day and twice on Sunday, Alex Smith is the def of garbage"

Must be nice to live in a simple world where all that was missing was a QB to pull his own weight.

Crabtree was considered a bust and massive failure by these dolts until Kaepernick came on the scene. Bowe is already proven among Chief fans, but he will endure the same ridicule from Alex fans. Guaranteed.

LowExpectations 09-03-2013 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smiff (Post 9936105)
Yep. Bowe will be called every bad word in the book. We'll hear how he doesn't get any separation or how he doesn't try because he dislikes Alex?

Yeah, that was great. Especially after the 2011 NFCCG against the Giants. "Crab didn't get any separation". LMAO

Just a note to Chiefs fans.... if things go wrong, blame is placed elsewhere.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-03-2013 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by LowExpectations (Post 9936566)
Crabtree was considered a bust and massive failure by these dolts until Kaepernick came on the scene. Bowe is already proven among Chief fans, but he will endure the same ridicule from Alex fans. Guaranteed.

I'll follow Bowe to hell before bending the knee to Axl's "greatness".

ROFL"Greatness"...oh shit....

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-03-2013 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LowExpectations (Post 9936574)
Yeah, that was great. Especially after the 2011 NFCCG against the Giants. "Crab didn't get any separation". LMAO

Just a note to Chiefs fans.... if things go wrong, blame is placed elsewhere.

This is nothing new. Every boneheaded sack will be blamed on the billion dollar O-line, and "not having a legit #2/McCluster sucks" will be hot it's heels.

Predictable.

Jakemall 09-03-2013 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smiff (Post 9936125)
I just get a kick out of the same posts that I read on the 9er board. A link to this board was posted on the 9er board and I came here to see the same fanboys saying the same things. So I'm here for the sheer entertainment.

What's truly pathetic is calling yourself a 9er fan but putting down everyone (coach, other players, etc) because things didn't go well for a guy who's no longer on the team. I don't consider those types true 9er fans. Their fanship begins and ends with a player and not the actual team. That's fine and all...but it's amusing.

I think you're confused.

He said that I am still a 9er fan.

Who am I putting down? You're right in that I don't think things went well for Alex at the end...and yes, I followed him here. Much like I did with Garcia when he left and Montana when he left and any number of other players. Guess what? I always remained a 9ers fan.

So I fail to see how it begins and ends with Alex? I'll still be going to 9er games and cheering my ass off for them.

So what's your problem with me again?

LowExpectations 09-03-2013 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9936580)
I'll follow Bowe to hell before bending the knee to Axl's "greatness".

ROFL"Greatness"...oh shit....

Good to know. And that is why I like this site. Not like a fairy 49erwebzone, where the milquetoast QB is sucked off and everyone else is thrown to the woodshed.

Jakemall 09-03-2013 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LowExpectations (Post 9936566)
Crabtree was considered a bust and massive failure by these dolts until Kaepernick came on the scene. Bowe is already proven among Chief fans, but he will endure the same ridicule from Alex fans. Guaranteed.

Pretty sure Crabs was already starting to significantly improve in 2012 while Alex was still the starter...but enjoy your revisionist history.

ViperVisor 09-03-2013 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LowExpectations (Post 9936566)
Crabtree was considered a bust and massive failure by these dolts until Kaepernick came on the scene. Bowe is already proven among Chief fans, but he will endure the same ridicule from Alex fans. Guaranteed.

Crabtree WAS failing.

profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/07/02/three-years-of-drop-rate-wide-receivers/

He got stronger as 2011 went on after missing week 2 with the foot. He got more experience and they saw what he was best at and took that forward to 2012...

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Crabtree ran 34.2% of his routes from the slot this season, while collecting 25 of his 63 first-down conversions from that position. Among wideouts who took 25% of their team’s slot snaps, Crabtree was targeted on a league-high 33.6% when he lined up inside. His 542 yards from the slot was 10th-most in the league, but most impressive was his 3.71 Yards Per Route Run as a slot receiver. That was the best mark in the NFL, and Calvin Johnson (3.15) was the only other wideout with a YPRR better than 3.00.

LowExpectations 09-03-2013 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9936599)
Pretty sure Crabs was already starting to significantly improve in 2012 while Alex was still the starter...but enjoy your revisionist history.

Check the YPC for Crabtree compared with Kaepernick and Alex. Have a nice day.

LowExpectations 09-03-2013 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ViperVisor (Post 9936602)
Crabtree WAS failing.

profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/07/02/three-years-of-drop-rate-wide-receivers/

He got stronger as 2011 went on after missing week 2 with the foot. He got more experience and they saw what he was best at and took that forward to 2012...

I compare Crabtree's production with Kaepernick and Alex. It's a pretty significant difference.

ViperVisor 09-03-2013 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LowExpectations (Post 9936608)
I compare Crabtree's production with Kaepernick and Alex. It's a pretty significant difference.

Not really. He was targeted like 30% more.

Compare Brandon Lloyd Denver with Orton to him with NE and Brady.

Yards per catch for WRs bounces within a 2 yard range year to year.
And sample is smaller than that.

And it's not like we don't have more info with Smith.
2009-2011 Crab got a solid 12.8 a catch with most passes coming from Smith.

That really wasn't the issue with him. He is quick and slippery. Good at grabbing a bit of YAC. The problem was how often he was dropping passes.
And they ditched a lot of the fly routes he was forced to try as an outside WR.

It's not like Crabtree was always flying open down the field and it took Kaepernick to get him the ball down the field.


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