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SPchief 12-26-2015 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11976370)
They haven't lost in like 2 months.

****ers are getting too close

Saul Good 12-26-2015 07:07 PM

Welp...it's official. The Twins are now tied atop the standing with the Royals.

http://www.si.com/mlb/standings

Fansy the Famous Bard 12-26-2015 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11976413)
Welp...it's official. The Twins are now tied atop the standing with the Royals.

http://www.si.com/mlb/standings

If we can keep pace for the next month, we've got a shot.

KChiefs1 12-26-2015 08:41 PM

Anyone watch Mission Accomplished on the MLBN?

Is that the official World Series film?

C3HIEF3S 12-26-2015 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 11976419)
If we can keep pace for the next month, we've got a shot.

I don't know, our offense has been a zero over these past couple of months.

Sure-Oz 12-27-2015 11:10 AM

@ClintScoles: Nick @nickcafardo - "Gordon is still drawing a lot of interest and prefers to stay in Kansas City, though that dream may be fading."

Lex Luthor 12-27-2015 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 11977012)
@ClintScoles: Nick @nickcafardo - "Gordon is still drawing a lot of interest and prefers to stay in Kansas City, though that dream may be fading."

If he really wants to stay, he can make it happen. 4 years, $60 million.

Saul Good 12-27-2015 11:49 AM

I'd go 5/75. $15,000,000 5 years from now will likely be below league average for a starting LF.

tmw4h5 12-27-2015 12:01 PM

I understand that you don't want to pay a guy for what he did, but what he will do instead. But, I can't help but feel like our team will always be that super cheap team that never actually signs anybody to a contract.
If Alex Gordon isn't a guy who you will overpay for to keep in a KC uniform and solidify his future as one of the top 5 Royals of all-time, then who will we pay for?

I'm not buying that the team can't afford it. Again, this team made so much ****ing money this year with increased ticket sales, increased prices all around the stadium, and another playoff run. I'm not buying this "small market" bullshit anymore. This team has the money to easily maintain a $150mm payroll. And if we fail to sign Gordon to a reasonable (there may be a team who pays $20mm+) contract, it makes us look really ****ing cheap and I know it will damage our chances of signing any of our players to contract extensions in the future.

cabletech94 12-27-2015 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 11976513)
Anyone watch Mission Accomplished on the MLBN?

Is that the official World Series film?

i believe it is. recorded it. will watch it after football.

Lex Luthor 12-27-2015 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tmw4h5 (Post 11977111)
I understand that you don't want to pay a guy for what he did, but what he will do instead. But, I can't help but feel like our team will always be that super cheap team that never actually signs anybody to a contract.
If Alex Gordon isn't a guy who you will overpay for to keep in a KC uniform and solidify his future as one of the top 5 Royals of all-time, then who will we pay for?

I'm not buying that the team can't afford it. Again, this team made so much ****ing money this year with increased ticket sales, increased prices all around the stadium, and another playoff run. I'm not buying this "small market" bullshit anymore. This team has the money to easily maintain a $150mm payroll. And if we fail to sign Gordon to a reasonable (there may be a team who pays $20mm+) contract, it makes us look really ****ing cheap and I know it will damage our chances of signing any of our players to contract extensions in the future.

You really don't understand the difference in local television contracts, do you?

They Royals local TV deal with Fox Sports pays them $20 million per year, and it's an ironclad contract that lasts through the 2019 season. The Los Angeles Dodgers get $250 million per year from their TV contract. That's why the Royals have to be very careful about how they spend their money. It's not a matter of being ****ing cheap. When one team has an extra $230 million every ****ing year, they are the ones who will sign the expensive free agents. Alex Gordon is an expensive free agent who is 32 years old.

After 2019 it will be a much more level playing field, because the Royals will get a better local TV deal. It won't come close to what the Dodgers get, but it will hopefully be close to the deal the Cardinals just signed: $1 Billion over 15 years, with $50 million the first year and escalations every year. But Moustakas, Hosmer, Cain, Escobar and Davis aren't going to wait until 2019 to get paid. They all become free agents after the 2017 season.

And even if the Royals get a sweetheart deal that exactly matches the Cardinals' deal, that's still $180 million LESS than what Dodgers get. Every year.

That's why it makes perfect sense for the Royals to refuse to break the bank for a 32 year old Alex Gordon. If they do, they have $100 million LESS to try to retain their younger free agents after 2017. They'll be competing with teams like the Dodgers to sign Hosmer and Moustakas. The Royals will never outbid the Dodgers, but I'd like to see them have enough free money to at least offer them enough money to make them consider staying at a hometown discount.

If Alex Gordon were to give the team a hometown discount and come back for 4 years at $60 million, and the Royals were to manage to make it to a 3rd World Series, THAT would set a helluva precedent.

ReynardMuldrake 12-27-2015 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lex Luthor (Post 11977594)
You really don't understand the difference in local television contracts, do you?

They Royals local TV deal with Fox Sports pays them $20 million per year, and it's an ironclad contract that lasts through the 2019 season. The Los Angeles Dodgers get $250 million per year from their TV contract. That's why the Royals have to be very careful about how they spend their money. It's not a matter of being ****ing cheap. When one team has an extra $230 million every ****ing year, they are the ones who will sign the expensive free agents. Alex Gordon is an expensive free agent who is 35 years old.

After 2019 it will be a much more level playing field, because the Royals will get a better local TV deal. It won't come close to what the Dodgers get, but it will hopefully be close to the deal the Cardinals just signed: $1 Billion over 15 years, with $50 million the first year and escalations every year. But Moustakas, Hosmer, Cain, Escobar and Davis aren't going to wait until 2019 to get paid. They all become free agents after the 2017 season.

And even if the Royals get a sweetheart deal that exactly matches the Cardinals' deal, that's still $180 million LESS than what Dodgers get. Every year.

That's why it makes perfect sense for the Royals to refuse to break the bank for a 35 year old Alex Gordon. If they do, they have $100 million LESS to try to retain their younger free agents after 2017. They'll be competing with teams like the Dodgers to sign Hosmer and Moustakas. The Royals will never outbid the Dodgers, but I'd like to see them have enough free money to at least offer them enough money to make them consider staying at a hometown discount.

If Alex Gordon were to give the team a hometown discount and come back for 4 years at $60 million, and the Royals were to manage to make it to a 3rd World Series, THAT would set a helluva precedent.

Yup. I love Gordon but we have to be cheap bastards if we want to stay competitive. If we want to keep winning, it's going to be because Dayton finds some more diamonds in the scrap pile, not because of our ability to resign premium players.

sedated 12-27-2015 02:41 PM

^^^Gordon is 32, not 35.

Zobrist was the 35 year old.

WilliamTheIrish 12-27-2015 04:07 PM

Former Red Sox hero Dave Henderson died today. He hit one of the biggest playoff home runs in my lifetime, off the Angels Donnie Moore (who never recovered from that and ended up committing suicide later).

He also would have been the hero the Red Sox were waiting for in 1986 as he hit the 2 run HR in game 6 of the 1986 WS to put the Red Sox ahead and needing 3 puts to close. (But Buckner happened-and a few singles prior)

Of a heart attack. Damn. I'll never forget that game. Never.

tk13 12-27-2015 04:16 PM

Dave Henderson also finished his career in Kansas City. He was a backup OF on the 1994 team that was making a run for the playoffs when the strike happened.


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