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JohnnyV13 03-08-2023 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16844031)
Lol yeah i caught that too.

That description sounds like something u could apply to the RAVENS and not the Chiefs. If OBJ is your LT, u need a mobile QB.

Nightfyre 03-08-2023 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16844403)
Actually, it appears to be 8 prior to compensatory being awarded.

Round 1: No. 31 overall
Round 2: No. 63 overall
Round 3: No. 95 overall
Round 4 (via Miami): TBA
Round 4: TBA
Round 5: TBA
Round 6 (via Miami): TBA
Round 7: TBA

As a comparison, we had 8 rookies play SIGNIFICANT snaps on O/D this past year and one more who played significant snaps on ST. I guess I don't get the desire of Chief Fans to trade our picks. :shrug:

There is a case, imo, for trading picks simply because, between tenders and existing contracts, the chiefs have more picks than roster spots.

Pitt Gorilla 03-08-2023 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 16844459)
There is a case, imo, for trading picks simply because, between tenders and existing contracts, the chiefs have more picks than roster spots.

People argued the same last season as well. Instead, we filled holes and let other dudes walk. From what I can tell, we currently have 21 free agents and DO NOT have nearly that many picks.

crispystl 03-08-2023 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16843696)
I don't have a big problem with them trading up. I just don't think it's realistic to expect them to jump 15 spots or more.

I could totally see them trading up 6-8 spots.

Furthermore, even if they think they have the right prospect, they should still look to hedge their bets and sign a couple of guys to spot start in the event that they need it.

I think this is what they'll do. Maybe with the exception of the trade up, but I could see that too.

Balto 03-08-2023 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16844287)
HOU has like $50M in cap space. I can't think of a good reason they'd want to trade Tunsil. But it's HOU, so who knows? Not like w're talking about a franchise with a long history of making smart moves.

Tunsil could have told them he won't resign and they should trade him /shrug

srvy 03-08-2023 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16843415)
I’d rather sign Fisher or just play Niang at LT than sign Lewan.

Didn't Miami sign Fish?

Rausch 03-08-2023 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 16844459)
There is a case, imo, for trading picks simply because, between tenders and existing contracts, the chiefs have more picks than roster spots.

Tunsil. Needs to happen.

Lock up LT for 4 or 5 years with a top 5 player...

srvy 03-08-2023 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16843595)
Draft a guy later, develop him. Should be easy, Tom Brady was a 6th rounder.

Didn't we do this with the Prince. Three years later we are just trusting him to block on field goals and extra points.

Pitt Gorilla 03-08-2023 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 16844537)
Didn't we do this with the Prince. Three years later we are just trusting him to block on field goals and extra points.

1) We didn't draft him.
2) He had a SIGNIFICANT injury

kccrow 03-08-2023 06:19 PM

I wouldn't mind Lewan as a stop-gap for a year if he can pass a physical. That's a big if at this point given he just failed one. The worry is him staying health for a full season. The same goes for Tyron Smith if he's released, which is a 50/50 proposition right now and won't happen if Dallas reworks his deal.

The Chiefs simply aren't getting Paris Johnson or Broderick Jones unless they go way up. I give zero shits what the mock draft simulators say, they aren't going to be there for anything less than a 1, 2, and future 1. Guaranteed. They have to hope that Anton Harrison falls into the early 20's ala Darrisaw. Wright is not a LT.

That really leaves the Chiefs with the likelihood of having to take a flawed guy in round 2 like Freeland. Hell, take him at 31 for all I care but it's going to be a bumpy ride year 1. Pairing him with a brokedick isn't he end of the world because he just might be a bit better come mid-season than he is right now.

I can't fathom the Texans trading Tunsil, that's a ****ing pipe dream. Veach is a magician though, so who knows.

Megatron96 03-08-2023 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 16844526)
Didn't Miami sign Fish?

Not sure Fish can play LT anymore. But he might be okay at RT. Wouldn't mind signing him to a 1-year deal, draft a RT and see if Fish can't mentor the guy into a good RT.

Rausch 03-08-2023 06:23 PM

[QUOTE=kccrow;16844539

I can't fathom the Texans trading Tunsil, that's a ****ing pipe dream. Veach is a magician though, so who knows.[/QUOTE]

I'd prefer Tunsil but I trust Veach and have 0 issue with us trading up to land a franchise LT. Hell, I'd prefer we draft a franchise left tackle.

Veach will find a way to add more picks down the road. He always does...

Mecca 03-08-2023 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16844539)
I wouldn't mind Lewan as a stop-gap for a year if he can pass a physical. That's a big if at this point given he just failed one. The worry is him staying health for a full season. The same goes for Tyron Smith if he's released, which is a 50/50 proposition right now and won't happen if Dallas reworks his deal.

The Chiefs simply aren't getting Paris Johnson or Broderick Jones unless they go way up. I give zero shits what the mock draft simulators say, they aren't going to be there for anything less than a 1, 2, and future 1. Guaranteed. They have to hope that Anton Harrison falls into the early 20's ala Darrisaw. Wright is not a LT.

That really leaves the Chiefs with the likelihood of having to take a flawed guy in round 2 like Freeland. Hell, take him at 31 for all I care but it's going to be a bumpy ride year 1. Pairing him with a brokedick isn't he end of the world because he just might be a bit better come mid-season than he is right now.

I can't fathom the Texans trading Tunsil, that's a ****ing pipe dream. Veach is a magician though, so who knows.

Supposedly the Cowboys are going to rework Smiths deal cause they wanna keep him.

Lewan is an interesting case, he use to be really good. He's what 32 now and has torn an ACL twice... listening to him talk though he seems brutally honest about himself.

Like he said he probably won't be signing anywhere until much closer to training camp just because he has more work to do with his knee and he wants to feel comfortable he can still play. Going so far as to say he's not going to continue if he doesn't have it anymore he isn't gonna be one of those guys.

Also listening to him talk about how he's only a LT and not a RT was hilarious. It had nothing to do with not wanting to do..he was just like I'm terrible at it..if you put me at RT you'll lose. Said the most nerve racking thing ever was having to do left and right side drills at the combine, was worried he'd fall down.

Basically some guys it's no big deal but for him playing the right side is like trying to do things with your off hand just can't do it.

kccrow 03-08-2023 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16844566)
Supposedly the Cowboys are going to rework Smiths deal cause they wanna keep him.

Lewan is an interesting case, he use to be really good. He's what 32 now and has torn an ACL twice... listening to him talk though he seems brutally honest about himself.

Like he said he probably won't be signing anywhere until much closer to training camp just because he has more work to do with his knee and he wants to feel comfortable he can still play. Going so far as to say he's not going to continue if he doesn't have it anymore he isn't gonna be one of those guys.

Also listening to him talk about how he's only a LT and not a RT was hilarious. It had nothing to do with not wanting to do..he was just like I'm terrible at it..if you put me at RT you'll lose. Said the most nerve racking thing ever was having to do left and right side drills at the combine, was worried he'd fall down.

Basically some guys it's no big deal but for him playing the right side is like trying to do things with your off hand just can't do it.

Good stuff on Lewan, I haven't listened to him much this offseason. It's good to know he doesn't know if he'll sign until long after the draft due to his knee. At that point, he's only going to be a depth signing or a guy a team picks up because a dude gets injured in pre-season. He certainly goes off the list of guys you can pencil in right now and that's what the Chiefs need to find in case the draft doesn't fall for them the way they hope/anticipate.

Mecca 03-08-2023 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16844580)
Good stuff on Lewan, I haven't listened to him much this offseason. It's good to know he doesn't know if he'll sign until long after the draft due to his knee. At that point, he's only going to be a depth signing or a guy a team picks up because a dude gets injured in pre-season. He certainly goes off the list of guys you can pencil in right now and that's what the Chiefs need to find in case the draft doesn't fall for them the way they hope/anticipate.

He said something like 12 teams had checked in with him. But on a side note he's 100% interested in the Chiefs so if they want him he'd probably sign earlier.

He also acknowledged he isn't going to get a big contract and he knows that.

Basically his parameters of what he wanted in making a choice was.

1. SB contender
2. I'm a LT
3. I want #77


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