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ChiefsCountry 08-05-2024 10:45 AM

Regarding the White Sox, Royals and Twins are both done both them for the year. Indians have 3 games left. So at least they aren't involved down the stretch.

Mecca 08-05-2024 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17615868)
Didn’t they have one of the best farms in baseball a couple of years ago? What happened since then?

They were failed by a mixture of injuries, poor player development, bad decisions and some bad luck.

Since then they have an entirely new front office and a top 5 system again.

But lets be really honest here, Tim Anderson went from an exciting player to a giant pile of shit in the snap of a finger. Eloy Jimenez can't stop getting hurt, Dylan Cease really didn't take off till he got to San Diego this year.

They also screwed the pooch by paying Yasmani Grandal and it just didn't work on top of choosing not to pay Rodon.

Of all of their top prospects Luis Robert is about the only one that has been an actual hit.

BWillie 08-05-2024 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17616559)
Eh - hard not to put some of that on a manager.

Oh sure, they were always going to lose 100. 105 may have been a foregone conclusion.

But when you have 2 guys in Crochet and Fedde who were pitching their asses off for you, that alone should keep you from being historically bad.

I mean if every player you have is fairly young and still underperforming their norms, that's a manager and organization issue as well. It ain't like Robert was hurt - he was just shitty. Lopez should've had good defensive value at least - hasn't. Benintendi has a long track record of being average to slightly above - he's been one of the worst players in baseball this year at an age that he just shouldn't be. Vaughn regresed for the 2nd straight year.

The White Sox should've been bad. But they shouldn't be THIS bad. They have a more talented roster than this. I mean somthing like 60-102 should've been a reasonable floor for them. And that's BEFORE they got a breakout from Crochet and career season from Fedde.

Also Moncada doesn't even want to play for them the rest of the way I don't think

tk13 08-05-2024 11:21 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> first round draft pick Jac Caglianone is headed to High-A Quad Cities this week and will make his pro debut Tuesday for the River Bandits. After a week or so in Arizona, he’s ready for affiliate ball.</p>&mdash; Anne Rogers (@anne__rogers) <a href="https://twitter.com/anne__rogers/status/1820506613775466884?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BWillie 08-05-2024 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 17616732)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> first round draft pick Jac Caglianone is headed to High-A Quad Cities this week and will make his pro debut Tuesday for the River Bandits. After a week or so in Arizona, he’s ready for affiliate ball.</p>&mdash; Anne Rogers (@anne__rogers) <a href="https://twitter.com/anne__rogers/status/1820506613775466884?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yes no rookie ball! Who wants to go on a road trip

cmh6476 08-05-2024 02:07 PM

this series is too important for me to try and get us a good gdt going, but our lineup is out:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We&#39;re opening the homestand with Brady Singer headed to the mound to take on the Red Sox. <a href="https://t.co/1WjqQxYyTH">pic.twitter.com/1WjqQxYyTH</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Royals (@Royals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals/status/1820551277824090499?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

cmh6476 08-05-2024 02:11 PM

looking forward to some of this, this week

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">RED SOX EMBARRASSINGLY DROP GAME TWO TO THE TIGERS!<br><br>6 - 5<br><br>Your Reaction? �� <a href="https://t.co/A96MsN4H5B">pic.twitter.com/A96MsN4H5B</a></p>&mdash; Bastards of Boston Baseball (@Bastards_Boston) <a href="https://twitter.com/Bastards_Boston/status/1390148682247544832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

PHOG 08-05-2024 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 17617157)
this series is too important for me to try and get us a good gdt going, but our lineup is out:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We&#39;re opening the homestand with Brady Singer headed to the mound to take on the Red Sox. <a href="https://t.co/1WjqQxYyTH">pic.twitter.com/1WjqQxYyTH</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Royals (@Royals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals/status/1820551277824090499?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah, we're getting into the meat of the schedule now. Only 59 games to go.

dlphg9 08-05-2024 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17616762)
Yes no rookie ball! Who wants to go on a road trip

This is really ****ing exciting.

SithCeNtZ 08-05-2024 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PHOG (Post 17617408)
Yeah, we're getting into the meat of the schedule now. Only 59 games to go.

They are 63-50, so 113 down 49 to go which makes this series matter even more. About as close to a playoff series in early August as you can get really.

PHOG 08-05-2024 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SithCeNtZ (Post 17617530)
They are 63-50, so 113 down 49 to go which makes this series matter even more. About as close to a playoff series in early August as you can get really.

Damn, I never was too good in math. 49, not 59.

tredadda 08-05-2024 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17616695)
They were failed by a mixture of injuries, poor player development, bad decisions and some bad luck.

Since then they have an entirely new front office and a top 5 system again.

But lets be really honest here, Tim Anderson went from an exciting player to a giant pile of shit in the snap of a finger. Eloy Jimenez can't stop getting hurt, Dylan Cease really didn't take off till he got to San Diego this year.

They also screwed the pooch by paying Yasmani Grandal and it just didn't work on top of choosing not to pay Rodon.

Of all of their top prospects Luis Robert is about the only one that has been an actual hit.

Makes a lot of sense. Appreciate that.

Ocotillo 08-05-2024 10:09 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There was no worse team of my childhood.<br><br>The 1988 Orioles now have company. The 2024 White Sox join them as the only AL teams to lose 21 in a row. <a href="https://t.co/nMveYgxzlz">pic.twitter.com/nMveYgxzlz</a></p>&mdash; Chris Klemmer (@ChrisKlemmer) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisKlemmer/status/1820671019662655679?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 6, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ocotillo 08-05-2024 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 17615762)
That Cleveland Spiders team was the worst team in MLB history. The White Sox are on pace to go 38-124.

And that Cleveland Spiders team had an owner who also owned St. Louis in the National League. He purposedly depleted the Spiders' roster to stock St. Louis. The major leagues have had a rule since then that an owner can't own two teams.

Knowing those circumstances, the White Sox really could be the worst team ever assembled.

Ocotillo 08-05-2024 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17616695)
They were failed by a mixture of injuries, poor player development, bad decisions and some bad luck.

Since then they have an entirely new front office and a top 5 system again.

But lets be really honest here, Tim Anderson went from an exciting player to a giant pile of shit in the snap of a finger. Eloy Jimenez can't stop getting hurt, Dylan Cease really didn't take off till he got to San Diego this year.

They also screwed the pooch by paying Yasmani Grandal and it just didn't work on top of choosing not to pay Rodon.

Of all of their top prospects Luis Robert is about the only one that has been an actual hit.

Their farm system, that was built for the 2020-21 playoff teams, was largely built off trades, not development either. They got Lucas Giolito, Reynaldo Lopez and Dane Danning from Washington for Adam Eaton. Giolito competed for a Cy Young in 2019.

They got Eloy Jimenez and Dylan Cease from the Cubs in a trade for Jose Quinanta and landed Michael Kopech and Yoan Moncada from the Red Sox in a deal for Chris Sale.

Their downfall was lack of depth around their top pieces, which sunk their teams in 2022 and 2023. I never believed they could develop players even during the height of the 2020-21 cycle. The way they handled Andrew Vaughn was criminal, starting him in the majors when he had minimal minor league experience. His lack of development is a reason where they are right now.

I don't agree they have a top five system right now. They have some promising arms, but their position player group is questionnable. Colson Montgomery, who is their best bet at a franchise position player, has an 83 wRC+ in Triple-A right now.


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