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BWillie 04-02-2024 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17467024)
In concept, sure. In practice? Eh...that gets really iffy. The legal process can take years to play out, and it wouldn't exactly be a good look to wait 3 years to suspend someone for something really heinous.

I don't care about how things look. I care about how they are.

DJ's left nut 04-02-2024 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 17467039)
If it had been you or me chances are we would be sitting in a jail right now. Especially after leaving the scene of a collision with injuries.

Man - y'all must think every prosecutor and judge in the world is lookin' to hang people for jaywalking.

Very few of us would be in jail right now absent some sort of aggravating factors and/or a lengthy record of similar issues. Any of us that were just caught some folks on a bad day.

Prosecutors care about drunk drivers, kiddy diddlers and drug traffickers. The rest of you folks are going to get suspended sentences, diversionary programs and maybe an hour or two in court here and there while the attorneys hammer out the paperwork in between.

Again, I'm just baffled at how much this has blown up. Suddenly we have people honestly trying to say that the dude's going to spend 10 years in prison?? C'mon.

digger 04-02-2024 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17467071)
Man - y'all must think every prosecutor and judge in the world is lookin' to hang people for jaywalking.

Very few of us would be in jail right now absent some sort of aggravating factors and/or a lengthy record of similar issues. Any of us that were just caught some folks on a bad day.

Prosecutors care about drunk drivers, kiddy diddlers and drug traffickers. The rest of you folks are going to get suspended sentences, diversionary programs and maybe an hour or two in court here and there while the attorneys hammer out the paperwork in between.

Again, I'm just baffled at how much this has blown up. Suddenly we have people honestly trying to say that the dude's going to spend 10 years in prison?? C'mon.


"He good."

Mephistopheles Janx 04-02-2024 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17467071)
Man - y'all must think every prosecutor and judge in the world is lookin' to hang people for jaywalking.

Yes... a 6 vehicle collision due to street racing that ended with injuries and feeling the scene = Jaywalking.

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Very few of us would be in jail right now absent some sort of aggravating factors and/or a lengthy record of similar issues. Any of us that were just caught some folks on a bad day.

Prosecutors care about drunk drivers, kiddy diddlers and drug traffickers. The rest of you folks are going to get suspended sentences, diversionary programs and maybe an hour or two in court here and there while the attorneys hammer out the paperwork in between.

Again, I'm just baffled at how much this has blown up. Suddenly we have people honestly trying to say that the dude's going to spend 10 years in prison?? C'mon.
What he did was a FELONY.

Shaid 04-02-2024 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mjn82 (Post 17466977)
Quoting of the law, good job but actual application of the law is more complex. How compliant to the law, in this case, complied with some of the provision, stopped his care at the scene but failed to render aid. so semi-compliant. second, how solid is the case, can they prove he was the operator because the law only applies to the vehicle's operator, third, was he cooperative after the fact, reached out with his lawyer and allegedly cooperating, 4th what is his previous record. not sure if he has any criminal record, if not, than this is a first offense and with the Chiefs he also probably has good oversight going forward, 5th what is his contribution to the community, I am thinking he probably has a charity set up, finally how severe was the damage, minor injuries and likely to be able to restitute for damage immediately. Finally willingness to negotiate a plea to save the state legal costs. Likely and reasonable result is a plea bargain to a level B Misdemeanor with a 5K fine, restitution to victims and either diversion or a 6 to 12 month probation.

I have no idea who you are or your background but you at least sound knowledgeable on this so thank you for the input.

WilliamTheIrish 04-02-2024 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17466292)

LMAO

From parade “media narratives” to “that container ship did this on purpose” to “stadium economics” to Texas Law Experts”.

Damn… well done DaFace. Just outstanding.

kysirsoze 04-02-2024 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17467069)
I don't care about how things look. I care about how they are.

The criminal justice system doesn't determine how things are any more than the NFL does. I don't often agree with the NFLs discipline, but to think they should have to wait and see what the legal system outcome is to act makes zero sense.

Urc Burry 04-02-2024 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 17467076)
Yes... a 6 vehicle collision due to street racing that ended with injuries and feeling the scene = Jaywalking.



What he did was a FELONY.

Is anybody arguing that though? Well probably given how this thread is going.

But as I’ve mentioned.. on paper it’s a felony. But given how our judicial system works… whether it be a plea deal, or whatever. I highly doubt he ends up with one

DaFace 04-02-2024 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 17467079)
LMAO

From parade “media narratives” to “that container ship did this on purpose” to “stadium economics” to Texas Law Experts”.

Damn… well done DaFace. Just outstanding.

I should confess that I only stole it from a guy on Twitter, so I can't claim credit for it. My apologies for all of those who feel deceived. :)

Monticore 04-02-2024 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Ming the Merciless (Post 17467048)
Well, its not like he rented this from Hertz. We haven't seen the contract. (At least I haven't). Do we know what company he rented from? Do we know if he rented it from a private party? Is it possible the driver has an umbrella policy of his own that may cover the Lambo?


I wouldnt jump to any coverage conclusions just yet...



Also, it didn't look totaled so even though it wont be cheap maybe it isnt a total loss?

The rental company said he was the only one allowed to drive it.

DJ's left nut 04-02-2024 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 17467076)
Yes... a 6 vehicle collision due to street racing that ended with injuries and feeling the scene = Jaywalking.

What he did was a FELONY.

And?

Capitalize 'felony' all you want. Most folks wouldn't go to jail over what he's done. They wouldn't go to jail over the accident itself and ultimately the fleeing charge is something prosecutors use to stack charges for the most part and then plea down.

That's just how it goes. The fleeing is an afterthought in these circumstances. And since nobody was seriously hurt and there are not presently any aggravating circumstances (weapons, drugs, impairment, etc...), the prosecutor wouldn't go to war with YOU over it, let alone Rice.

Get as wound up as you want. I have very little doubt as to how this is going to go.

Mephistopheles Janx 04-02-2024 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 17467086)
Is anybody arguing that though? Well probably given how this thread is going.

But as I’ve mentioned.. on paper it’s a felony. But given how our judicial system works… whether it be a plea deal, or whatever. I highly doubt he ends up with one

I also highly doubt he ends up with one.

If you or I street race, cause a 6 vehicle collision which shuts down the highway for 4 hours, cause injury, and bail. We aren't getting to communicate through a lawyer while chilling at home.

Hell... if they are happy to snatch my ass up and toss me in jail for having a suspended license (actually happened), then they would be more than please to snatch me up a dude that cause a 6 car wreck with injuries then ****ing bailed.

Mephistopheles Janx 04-02-2024 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17467093)
And?

Capitalize 'felony' all you want. Most folks wouldn't go to jail over what he's done. They wouldn't go to jail over the accident itself and ultimately the fleeing charge is something prosecutors use to stack charges for the most part and then plea down.

That's just how it goes. The fleeing is an afterthought in these circumstances. And since nobody was seriously hurt and there are not presently any aggravating circumstances (weapons, drugs, impairment, etc...), the prosecutor wouldn't go to war with YOU over it, let alone Rice.

Get as wound up as you want. I have very little doubt as to how this is going to go.

I got snatched up and tossed in jail for driving on a suspended license. No accidents, no damage. I just forgot to pay a ticket. All things being equal... they should be more than please to snatch me up a dude that cause a 6 car wreck with injuries then ****ing bailed.

emaw1979 04-02-2024 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17467093)
And?

Capitalize 'felony' all you want. Most folks wouldn't go to jail over what he's done. They wouldn't go to jail over the accident itself and ultimately the fleeing charge is something prosecutors use to stack charges for the most part and then plea down.

That's just how it goes. The fleeing is an afterthought in these circumstances. And since nobody was seriously hurt and there are not presently any aggravating circumstances (weapons, drugs, impairment, etc...), the prosecutor wouldn't go to war with YOU over it, let alone Rice.

Get as wound up as you want. I have very little doubt as to how this is going to go.

Yep. As far as the idiotic things that NFL players do to get themselves into trouble with the law, this is pretty minor. Regardless of the punishment or charges, he is extremely lucky everyone involved is alive and spared from significant injury.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-02-2024 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 17467076)
Yes... a 6 vehicle collision due to street racing that ended with injuries and feeling the scene = Jaywalking.



What he did was a FELONY.

You are ****ing reeruned...


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