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Originally Posted by RedThat
(Post 6664639)
did you gradually increase the weight week to week as you went along or did you stick w/ the same weight?
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I decided to do both dropsets and supersets. Have you ever tried those?
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I barely increased the weight over 2 months. And I mean BARELY. It's just not a strength training workout. The point isn't to get stronger on those lifts. It's just to fatigue the muscles as much as possible.
I've done drop sets and supersets. They just weren't necessary in this particular regimen because every rest period was so short.
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You don't do squats for mass? Do squats for mass bro! you gotta try it, or else, hate to say it but...you're missing out. You'll never find a better total body exercise to increase your overall power and strength than squats. if you improve on squat lifting you'll increase your lifts every else.
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The mass-building thing is a total myth, disproven by science.
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Originally Posted by Craig Ballantyne
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Elevations in ostensibly anabolic hormones with resistance exercise enhance neither training-induced muscle hypertrophy nor strength of the elbow flexors. Daniel W. D. West,1 Nicholas A. Burd,1 Jason E. Tang,1 Daniel R. Moore,1 Aaron W. Staples,1 Andrew M. Holwerda,1 Steven K. Baker,2 and Stuart M. Phillips1
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Twelve healthy young men (21.8 ± 1.2 yr, body mass index = 23.1 ± 0.6 kg/m2) trained their elbow flexors independently for 15 wk on separate days and under different hormonal milieu.
In one training condition, participants performed isolated arm curl exercise designed to maintain basal hormone concentrations (low hormone, LH).
In the other training condition, participants performed identical arm exercise to the LH condition followed immediately by a high volume of leg resistance exercise to elicit a large increase in endogenous hormones (high hormone, HH).
There was no elevation in serum growth hormone (GH), insulin-like growth factor (IGF-1), or testosterone after the LH protocol but significant (P < 0.001) elevations in these hormones immediately and 15 and 30 min after the HH protocol.
Results
Muscle cross-sectional area (CSA) increased by 12% in LH and 10% in HH (P < 0.001) with no difference between conditions (condition x training interaction, P = 0.25).
Similarly, type I (P < 0.01) and type II (P < 0.001) muscle fiber CSA increased with training with no effect of hormone elevation in the HH condition.
Strength increased in both arms, but the increase was not different between the LH and HH conditions.
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We conclude that exposure of loaded muscle to acute exercise-induced elevations in endogenous anabolic hormones enhances neither muscle hypertrophy nor strength with resistance training in young men.
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The study confirms that the slight boost in anabolic hormones from a leg exercise will have zero impact on muscle growth of other muscles in the body.
And this makes total sense if you think about it…after all, bodybuilders have to INJECT themselves with steroids in order to get a hormone boost, so why would a short 30 minute increase in testosterone have any significance?
The answer is it won’t.
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19736298
Resistance exercise-induced increases in putative anabolic hormones do not enhance muscle protein synthesis or intracellular signalling in young men.
West DW, Kujbida GW, Moore DR, Atherton P, Burd NA, Padzik JP, De Lisio M, Tang JE, Parise G, Rennie MJ, Baker SK, Phillips SM.
We aimed to determine whether exercise-induced elevations in systemic concentration of testosterone, growth hormone (GH) and insulin-like growth factor-1 (IGF-1) enhanced post-exercise myofibrillar protein synthesis (MPS) and phosphorylation of signalling proteins important in regulating mRNA translation. Eight young men (20 +/- 1.1 years, BMI = 26 +/- 3.5 kg m(-2)) completed two exercise protocols designed to maintain basal hormone concentrations (low hormone, LH) or elicit increases in endogenous hormones (high hormone, HH). In the LH protocol, participants performed a bout of unilateral resistance exercise with the elbow flexors. The HH protocol consisted of the same elbow flexor exercise with the contralateral arm followed immediately by high-volume leg resistance exercise. Participants consumed 25 g of protein after arm exercise to maximize MPS. Muscle biopsies and blood samples were taken as appropriate. There were no changes in serum testosterone, GH or IGF-1 after the LH protocol, whereas there were marked elevations after HH (testosterone, P < 0.001; GH, P < 0.001; IGF-1, P < 0.05). Exercise stimulated a rise in MPS in the biceps brachii (rest = 0.040 +/- 0.007, LH = 0.071 +/- 0.008, HH = 0.064 +/- 0.014% h(-1); P < 0.05) with no effect of elevated hormones (P = 0.72). Phosphorylation of the 70 kDa S6 protein kinase (p70S6K) also increased post-exercise (P < 0.05) with no differences between conditions. We conclude that the transient increases in endogenous purportedly anabolic hormones do not enhance fed-state anabolic signalling or MPS following resistance exercise. Local mechanisms are likely to be of predominant importance for the post-exercise increase in MPS.
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I realize that's a lot of sciencey-jibberish, but it basically says that there's just no truth to the myth that you must work legs to get a large growth hormone release that will spur the rest of your body to grow.
If you want big legs, work your legs to get big. If you want a big chest, work your chest to get big. And so on and so forth for every body part. They're just not connected in that sense.
Now, what you say about it possibly increasing other lifts -- I say "maybe." There's certainly an advantage to working the posterior chain and strengthening it, and that will help you in all your lifts. However, this PC strengthening is not specifically tied to squatting, deadlifting or any other exercise. There are a myriad of ways to train your PC, and it's something everyone should do.
I still do leg work, but I keep the weight heavy and the reps low to prevent large mass buildup. My legs are gigantic as it is, and I had to recently cut weight out of them (per my PT's orders), which ****ing SUCKS and I hope no one ever has to do. On page 24, I put my leg workout for this week where I did personal record numbers on the Bulgarian split squat. 225 x 5 per leg. That gives me a giant PURELY THEORETICAL combined squat total of 450. But, I know I'll never get there, because the limiting factor in squats is the lower back, and not leg strength (
http://www.functionalstrengthcoach3.com/squats.html).