Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9938151)

First of all, if you're calling yourself a 9ers fans, take that stupid looking dog off your avatar. LOL.

Seriously though, there is a 0.00% pct chance we start the season 0-3.

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 9938181)

No on the avatar.

And sorry. Facing three very good qbs to start the season, and really to be honest, there isn't a gimmie in the first 5 games of the season.

VS GB
@Seattle
VS Indy
@STL
VS HOU

Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9938185)

I didn't say there were any gimmes. I just said we're not starting 0-3.

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9938193)

yeah, Matt Ryan's been losing lots of playoff games... 1 win out of 5.. and he has lots of talent around him, plus has had coaching consistency around him in the developing years.

Matt Stafford's been losing big time against teams with a winning record... 1 win in 24 games?

these new year backyard-ballers have been exciting, yet not flawless... They have much to prove, but for the most part, have excellent structure around them to succeed further.

Alex had shit and a wild carousel around him. Few quarterbacks had so many obstacles around them, and none of them to my knowledge have been trending up in their later years as Smith has. He is just a product of people's preconceived notions over his distant years. Years of brainwashed people, thanks to the ESPN/Jamie Duke morons that fail to think in depth about what makes QBs successful.

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 9938202)

That probably is the biggest reason that I do like Alex Smith. I have no idea how he made it out of that situation to succeed at all

It is damn impressive

Alex still stands.

Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9937525)

Who is dishonest?

Crabtree 2010 741 yards 6 tds
2011 874 yards 4 tds
2012 8 game split 440 yards 3 tds
So 16= 880 yards and 6 TDs.

At first blush, it really looks like you're correct. However, when you account for the injured hand (in which every receiver suffered on yards) it paints a different picture.

6 games 383 yards 3 tds = 16 games 1021 yards and 8tds.

Now, the only argument you can really make here is that I can't take those games out...go ahead...tell me how Alex's throwing hand injury had no impact on the 9ers ability to pass in those games. I'm all ears.

This is a perfect example of why stats are deceptive.

Instead of using stats, try to remember how everyone was saying how much better Crabtree was looking before Alex had his concussion.

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9938193)

Alex had shit and a wild carousel around him. Few quarterbacks had so many obstacles around them, and none of them to my knowledge have been trending up in their later years as Smith has.

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9936931)

So full of shit, kid... Suck on these numbers a bit.

This is old and recycled discussion. Now, show us how VD's production was with Smith and then Kaep. Go ahead.


week 1-9 = 26 rec on 37 targets / 380 yds / 4 TDs -------- ( with Alex )

week 9-16 = 16 rec on 25 targets / 172 yds / 1 TD -------- ( with Kaep )

So, big whoopity doo, kid. Alex liked throwing the ball to VD and others.. as well as Crabtree, which Alex completed approx. 40 passes to prior to the concussion. That's 40 at about the mid-point to the season. Does 40 sound terrible in a run-based offense? Kaep only completed about 50 to him.

:doh!:

Let all this go and enjoy the 49ers journey. Let Alex Smiff go, once and for all. Alex has controlled and dominated your pathetic life all of those 8 years... and now, you are allowing him to dominate you even though you are free of him. Can you not see this twisted and sick obsession is poisoning your soul?

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9937467)

In 2006, (Smith's 2nd season), Alex had a 56.85 comp % when throwing 21+ yards in Norv's system.

In 2005, (Schaub's 2nd season), Matt had a 50% comp % when throwing 21+ yards

In 2002, (Brees' 2nd season), Drew had a 59.25 comp % when throwing 21+ yards

In 2009, (Flacco's 2nd season), Joe had a 60.1 comp % when throwing 21+ yards

In 2009, (Ryan's 2nd season), Matt had a 58.7 comp % when throwing 21+ yards

In 2009, (Flacco's 2nd season), Joe had a 60.1 comp % when throwing 21+ yards


I mean, we are not talking huge differences here. You need to at least factor in that Alex had Kwame Harris at OT (possibly the worst OT in pass protecting history), and a bottom half pass protecting OL on the whole.

Also keep in mind, Alex's decent 2nd year was also better than that of HOF Troy Aikman's 2nd year... and Troy had a MUCH better supporting cast around him.

Originally Posted by Alex Smiff (Post 9938307)

What the **** does VD's production have to do with Crabs production compared to Kaep and Smith?

Originally Posted by Alex Smiff (Post 9938312)

How do you expect people to take you seriously when you post this garbage?

Originally Posted by Alex Smiff (Post 9938307)

What the **** does VD's production have to do with Crabs production compared to Kaep and Smith? Are you slow? :LOL::LOL::LOL:

Originally Posted by Snapplez (Post 9938298)

This trending up shit is such a damn copout. It amazes me you fail to see the circumstances of why the 49ers became what they are today. They were a ridiculously talented team, with a fantastic head coach, and get this, the more they took the ball out of Alex Smith's hands the better the team became. They trended up simply because Harbaugh knew that Smith wasn't ever gonna cut it, and took the ball away from him.

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9938355)

So they paid him a top 3 salary on the team for two years just to "take the ball away from him?" Harbaugh was quoted multiple times in sucking Alex off just to keep him in SF... all to keep the ball out of his hands? and in most of the games where they actually needed Alex`to produce a game winning drive... he did.

So tell me again how they kept the ball out of his hands? Didn't he pass the ball just as frequently as Kaep did?

Your perspective has large fails in it. ;)